Nathan_Drake
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Very Hot Beverages are Probable Cancer Trigger, Says WHO
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Trojita
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Don't like hot drinks anyway.
This isn't based on cancer being caused by radiation, like from the sun. The hot beverages literally burn the soft tissue in your throat causing the cells to fix themselves. Over time this can increase the chance of dna damaged cells appearing.
This isn't based on cancer being caused by radiation, like from the sun. The hot beverages literally burn the soft tissue in your throat causing the cells to fix themselves. Over time this can increase the chance of dna damaged cells appearing.
Miles Quaritch
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You can go blind or so they say...
John Kowalski
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I once saw someone chug two espressos straight out of the machine and i could not believe how he was still standing! What kind of crazy person do you have to be.
Everything I know is wrong.
And a splash of cream and dash of sugar.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
ugaboga232
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Fellow medical school student, theres a really interesting case of one town in Iran having far higher rates of mouth cancer for no reason, and they eventually realized because they drink their tea much hotter than neighboring towns. Cell renewal is never a good thing.
(There are some new whispers about Barrets and GERD and how it may not be as clear of a relationship as before which is interesting as I have both and dont really want throat cancer...)
ugaboga232
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We already know it, free radicals are oxygen caused for the most part.
SolidusDave
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In short:
everything that regularly damages fast-replicating tissues, thus forcing to have even more cell divisions, can give you cancer. Especially if it's tissues that are not evolved to handle such damage so often (unlike e.g. skin wounds). Possible regulatory mechanisms to kick out any bad apple cells might also be limited if the tissue is under constant stress.
It's a numbers game. Mutations can spontaneously happen (if only for the mere fact that we are breathing oxygen). Therefore more cell divisions in such tissues = higher chance to hit something that is important.
Now accumulate mutations over time (aging) and you have a higher percentage of people getting cancer in that tissue. You just tweaked the chance parameters. Just how you can increase cancer risk by e.g. a higher dose of radiation.
everything that regularly damages fast-replicating tissues, thus forcing to have even more cell divisions, can give you cancer. Especially if it's tissues that are not evolved to handle such damage so often (unlike e.g. skin wounds). Possible regulatory mechanisms to kick out any bad apple cells might also be limited if the tissue is under constant stress.
It's a numbers game. Mutations can spontaneously happen (if only for the mere fact that we are breathing oxygen). Therefore more cell divisions in such tissues = higher chance to hit something that is important.
Now accumulate mutations over time (aging) and you have a higher percentage of people getting cancer in that tissue. You just tweaked the chance parameters. Just how you can increase cancer risk by e.g. a higher dose of radiation.
That must have been what my professors were referring to when they said "middle east". I never got more details than that.
Interesting to hear about Barret's. Do you have a link?
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Mac the KNife
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Nope, not quotin' the avatar. No way.
God Dayumm
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Good advise. If it is too hot for the hand it is too hot for the mouth. Or worse. The skin is made to tolerate harsh factors to an extent, your inner membranes are not.
Mmmm.
I started out drinking black coffee, but when I found out that cold milk cooled it down AND made it taste much better I never went back. Especially when it's fresh the milk brings out so many flavors.
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ugaboga232
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3265012/ Here is a Q/A but here is a shitty NYtimes article talking about how its bile and not really acid and I saw (trending on facebook of all places) talk about how its inflammation that makes the throat sensitive to acid when normally its not. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/30/health/30brod.html
PPI's are a god send, don't need them really at all now but before my acid was really bad.
Edit: found the article http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/863413
Yeah, I'm not the biggest coffee fan. I prefer tea. Now no longer piping hot, I guess.
Course ground, 7 parts water to 1 part coffee, sit it in the fridge for ~14 hours. Strain out and return to the fridge to keep for a week or two. It'll generally be much stronger than the average brew.
I've always known I was right because fuck hot beverages, but it's nice for science to be on our side.
Spirit of Jazz
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Fuck. How much can I sue Starbucks for?
ugaboga232
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Interesting. Thanks!
To be fair, with the lifetime risk of developing cancer beeing somewhere around the 40% mark it is pretty much expected most things give you cancer!
Thelonelykoopa
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Yes wanking cures cancer so you need to wank to the amount of times relative to everything you do which causes cancer to be safe.
Not only that, but drinking extremely hot beverages or soups is very detrimental to oral health as it damages gums and oral mucosa.
The mucosa that lines the oesophagus is made up of epithelial cells that already have a very high turnover to deal with the abrasive effects of eating food and can deal with drinking hot drinks just as well.
TimeEffect
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No shit burning your tongue, mouth and throat over and over increases your risk of cancer. I never got how ppl could enjoy eating/drinking scalding hot substances.
Also, seems like the ignorant as fuck "everything gives you cancer" brigade" has made its appearance.
Newsflash: everything does not fucking give you cancer.
Adittionally, magnitude of risk is important. A carcinogen may cause a few more people out of thousands to develop cancer among those exposed. Another carcinogen may cause a majority of people exposed to it to develop a particular cancer.
Which one am I going to make sure to avoid?
For the irrational, unthinking "everything causes cancer" ppl, it doesn't matter. For someone like me who has a functioning brain and can weigh risks, it does.
Also, seems like the ignorant as fuck "everything gives you cancer" brigade" has made its appearance.
Newsflash: everything does not fucking give you cancer.
Adittionally, magnitude of risk is important. A carcinogen may cause a few more people out of thousands to develop cancer among those exposed. Another carcinogen may cause a majority of people exposed to it to develop a particular cancer.
Which one am I going to make sure to avoid?
For the irrational, unthinking "everything causes cancer" ppl, it doesn't matter. For someone like me who has a functioning brain and can weigh risks, it does.
styl3s
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Looks like cranky kong didn't have his cancer coffee today.
Jokes on you i only drink Diet Coke.
There is always a chance you'll get cancer, excluding environmental and dieting choices. That is amplified as you get older, as most cancer patients 60+.
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