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VF5 info & scans from Famitsu

"Didn't Itagaki say DOA was the best fighting game ever? The man is totally clueless...he wouldn't know a good game if his life depended on it. I'm sure he thinks DOA4 is going to be better than VF5...I'm almost excited to read the damage control over this "


Actually, hasn't it been well noted that Itagaki's a huge fan of VF5 and has huge respect for Suzuki? That's gotta hurt.
 
Teknopathetic said:
"Didn't Itagaki say DOA was the best fighting game ever? The man is totally clueless...he wouldn't know a good game if his life depended on it. I'm sure he thinks DOA4 is going to be better than VF5...I'm almost excited to read the damage control over this "


Actually, hasn't it been well noted that Itagaki's a huge fan of VF5 and has huge respect for Suzuki? That's gotta hurt.
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Itagaki won't say nothing about VF or SEGA simply because respects them. His beef however is Namco. Want to know why? Namco publically humiliated him. Yes seriously, Namco did publically owned him and its the very reason he hates the Tekken games.

If anything, I'm personally glad Namco what what they did --- just prove how inferior DOA has been since it originally the arcades. Take it from anybody that played DOA when it used to be in the arcades on the Model 2; the games were simpily trash just like even Last Bronx was. In fact both Last Bronx and DOA/DOA++ was the worst fighting games to ever grace the Model 2 system.


Right now the competition both VF and Tekken share is a welcome sight, and simpily because the healthy competition between both have all but made each of the games between them better. Also had it not been for VF3TB, there would never have been Tekken Tag.

Namco VS. SEGA = competition made in heaven
 
Thanks, I was thinking of Namco not Sega.

I agree; healthy competition is a VERY good thing for gaming. If two developers try and push each other to making better games then it's the audience who wins. This is why I expected VF5 to be online. I hate the DOA games but at least they've tried to take them in a new direction by being online.
 
yeah, Tobal 2 had quite the body definition...
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I recall Tobal 2 having very good modeling for the time. I'd have to go back and play it again, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it still looks gorgeous compared to other games of that era.

I prefer the Tobal / VF style, heck even DOA to an extent, of character modeling, where a strong model is used and the natural way light falls on it provides the detail. As opposed to garbage like Tekken where they just slap textures on everything. Granted, Namco has gotten a bit better about just making a nice looking model and laying off the fugly textures.
 
Andrew2 said:
Itagaki won't say nothing about VF or SEGA simply because respects them. His beef however is Namco. Want to know why? Namco publically humiliated him. Yes seriously, Namco did publically owned him and its the very reason he hates the Tekken games.

If anything, I'm personally glad Namco what what they did --- just prove how inferior DOA has been since it originally the arcades. Take it from anybody that played DOA when it used to be in the arcades on the Model 2; the games were simpily trash just like even Last Bronx was. In fact both Last Bronx and DOA/DOA++ was the worst fighting games to ever grace the Model 2 system.


Right now the competition both VF and Tekken share is a welcome sight, and simpily because the healthy competition between both have all but made each of the games between them better. Also had it not been for VF3TB, there would never have been Tekken Tag.

Namco VS. SEGA = competition made in heaven
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Wait wait wait.

What did Namco do?
 
Deg said:
Looks good. I think Namco will be the best this time.
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I find Namco's the best at modeling hands down, but I've always prefered the way VF plays.

Some good competition is a brewin'. It's win win for fighting game fans.
 
sly said:
Maybe they're adopting Soul Calibur's eight-way system........
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It appears you can do body crossovers more easily now, i dont think its an 8 way run, maybe they altered the jump?
 
Sadly it looks like VF5 has to copy DoA 4 for it's "mexican" luchidore fighting style. Lame if you ask me.

Oh and I think the self-shadowing actually makes the game look....
meh. I'm suprised you guys are so trigger happy about it being in DoA 4, it's not that big of a difference.
:lol
 
sly said:
Maybe they're adopting Soul Calibur's eight-way system........
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I doubt it and simpily because VF isn't a weapon fighter. When talking about the movement system, I'm more than willing to bet they're talking about the style of arenas e.g. they're completely getting rid of the ring-style arenas for more open ones
 
Zer0 said:
stop trolling
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I am entitled to my opinion and you are to yours. I think the screenshots look weak and not much better than VF4 and this is probably the case aswell. If you have problems with that well tough deal.
 
VictimOfGrief said:
Sadly it looks like VF5 has to copy DoA 4 for it's "mexican" luchidore fighting style. Lame if you ask me.
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Lei Fang has a SPoD in DOA4, or Brad is a rip off of Shun.

*shrugs*
 
Jesus H. Tap-dancing Christ! Go SEGA! Those visuals totally blow DoA4 away, if only for the sake of realism; DoA's plastic doll skin never looked convincing to me. Not to mention the self-shadowing (finally!)... My God, the self-shadowing.

Wow... Just wow. VF is back with a vengeance, people.
 
VictimOfGrief said:
Sadly it looks like VF5 has to copy DoA 4 for it's "mexican" luchidore fighting style. Lame if you ask me.

Oh and I think the self-shadowing actually makes the game look....
meh. I'm suprised you guys are so trigger happy about it being in DoA 4, it's not that big of a difference.
:lol
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Or both been taking off Tekken. King's style is pretty much Lucha Libre :)
 
Shompola said:
I am entitled to my opinion and you are to yours. I think the screenshots look weak and not much better than VF4 and this is probably the case aswell. If you have problems with that well tough deal.
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Not next-gen? Perhaps.
Not what you expected? Maybe.
I don't care about the series anyway? Hey!
Not much better than VF4? Bullshit beyond mere opinion.



Anyway, it looks good. Still not blowing my mind, I think at this point I've set my expectations so high for fighters that they would actually have to look like the Tekken PS3 cinematic before I was blown away.

That said, I think DOA4 looks good too so I temper expectations with reality.
 
The funny thing is that I probably have played VF4 much more than the majority of the people that have posted here. I not a fan? Who are you to tell me if I am a fan of the series or not? Looking good yes, but still no major improvement over VF4, and grainy scanned screenshots is not going to help its cause I am afraid. And technically it has nothing on DOA 4 except for self shadowing and probably a more life like animation with better transitions inbetween. And I dont even really care about DOA 4 until they unveiled the secret character.. yah that is how much I have cared about that game.
 
VictimOfGrief said:
Sadly it looks like VF5 has to copy DoA 4 for it's "mexican" luchidore fighting style. Lame if you ask me.

Oh and I think the self-shadowing actually makes the game look....meh. I'm suprised you guys are so trigger happy about it being in DoA 4, it's not that big of a difference.:lol
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Self shadowing makes the game look meh? This game pours acid all over DOA4's crab infested vagina. You need to have you eyes checked.
 
Shompola said:
The funny thing is that I probably have played VF4 much more than the majority of the people that have posted here. I not a fan? Who are you to tell me if I am a fan of the series or not? Looking good yes, but still no major improvement over VF4, and grainy scanned screenshots is not going to help its cause I am afraid. And technically it has nothing on DOA 4 except for self shadowing and probably a more life like animation with better transitions inbetween. And I dont even really care about DOA 4 until they unveiled the secret character.. yah that is how much I have cared about that game.
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Feeling guilty for trolling? I didn't say you weren't a fan of VF4, I said not being a fan is a valid opinion (along with the other two options). Saying 'it does not look much better than VF4' is bullshit beyond mere opinion.

Even saying something as hilariously wrong as "VF5 visuals has nothing on DOA4" is an opinion. But saying VF5 doesn't look much better than VF4? Pretty much just asshattery.
 
Haha that looks leaps and bounds better then DOA4 IMO. The models look next gen as does the ligting. Team Ninja better take note. Bring on Tekken Tag 2! I expect that to raise the bar even higher.
 
Amir0x said:
Feeling guilty for trolling? I didn't say you weren't a fan of VF4, I said not being a fan is a valid opinion (along with the other two options). Saying 'it does not look much better than VF4' is bullshit beyond mere opinion.

Even saying something as hilariously wrong as "VF5 visuals has nothing on DOA4" is an opinion. But saying VF5 doesn't look much better than VF4? Pretty much just asshattery.
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I can tell from these crappy scans that it def. has lovely lighting, but I can't really tell anything else, so I don't know why everyone's getting their knickers in a twist over it.

I did read something yesterday that literally made me cough. Some FUCK was talking about how it was GREAT that VF5 wasn't online because Akira's knee is a one-frame in 60 move and that could be hurt by lag. FUCK OFF!

So it's OK for VF5 to be missing an absolute fundamental of current gen gaming, because .0005% of players might be annoyed by lag? Get to fuck.

Christ, you get some lag in Japanese arcade LANs.

No online will be inexcusable. How many VF5 black belts live on your street?
 
While this looks quite a step up above DoA4 (definitive Xbox 1.5 material there), I don't think Namco will have that much trouble bettering these visuals.
 
Stinkles said:
I can tell from these crappy scans that it def. has lovely lighting, but I can't really tell anything else, so I don't know why everyone's getting their knickers in a twist over it.
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Not about telling 'much else', except that it definitely looks much better than VF4. Saying otherwise is, again, just asshattery.

Stinkles said:
I did read something yesterday that literally made me cough. Some FUCK was talking about how it was GREAT that VF5 wasn't online because Akira's knee is a one-frame in 60 move and that could be hurt by lag. FUCK OFF!

So it's OK for VF5 to be missing an absolute fundamental of current gen gaming, because .0005% of players might be annoyed by lag? Get to fuck.
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It's considerably more than .0005%, considering VF series is one of the most hardcore 3D fighting games on the market. Lag is absolutely critical to the series. Anyone who is at all serious about the series will tell you this. It's a valid complaint the lack of online, no doubt. It's always better to have it than not, if only for people who aren't as completely serious about the game as I am.

Stinkles said:
No online will be inexcusable. How many VF5 black belts live on your street?
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Very few. And I wouldn't meet any online either, because what I would be playing certainly wouldn't be a competitive Virtua Fighter experience. If VF5 was online the game would just be like playing some other novelty fighting game that appeals to talentless hacks who enjoy multi-tiered cheese fests ala DOA. Not that it shouldn't be there, but it's certainly no place I'd go to meet people on my level. A novelty. One that should be there, but a novelty nonetheless.

Shampola said:
Screenshots are grainy.
Screenshots are blurry
Screenshots are scans

Repeat until you get it.
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You're an asshat. Repeat until you get it. If you're so blind as you're admitting, shrink the image down to get better clarity. On any level, though, it's fucking easy to tell it looks considerably better than VF4.

Which is why, once again...

...you're an asshat.
 
Honestly, if online play is a deal breaker for you, you probably weren't all that interested in the game anyway. Pass on and go to another thread.
 
Teknopathetic said:
Honestly, if online play is a deal breaker for you, you probably weren't all that interested in the game anyway. Pass on and go to another thread.
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No. I am interested in ALL fighting games. I like them because I can play against other players.

I could for example, set up a custom match against someone of my own skill level. On teh internets.

VF ws popular in aracdes because it's a competitive experience, if you don't like competing agaonst human opponents in VF then you probably weren't that interested in the game anyway. Pass on and go to another thread.
 
Amir0x said:
Anyway, it looks good. Still not blowing my mind, I think at this point I've set my expectations so high for fighters that they would actually have to look like the Tekken PS3 cinematic before I was blown away.
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Even die hard Sonyers (like me for example) must admit that hell will friggin freeze over if Tekken 6 can match that pre-rendered E3 video.

No way, no way in hell.
 
Stinkles said:
VF ws popular in aracdes because it's a competitive experience, if you don't like competing agaonst human opponents in VF then you probably weren't that interested in the game anyway. Pass on and go to another thread.
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Isn't that the issue, though? If you wanted to play Virtua Fighter as a competitive experience, you wouldn't play online. Because the product that would be online would be a totally unique/independent game, due to lag. It'd change the entire flow and timing; indeed breaking some aspects of gameplay entirely. You'd just be playing a fighting game online that was Virtua Fighter in name only. It'd have very little relation to actual competitive Virtua Fighter play.

Like i said, it still needs to be there. I agree with you. I just wouldn't utilize it for this reason.

Borys said:
Even die hard Sonyers (like me for example) must admit that hell will friggin freeze over if Tekken 6 can match that pre-rendered E3 video.

No way, no way in hell.
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I agree. However, that's the only sort of jump that would truly impress me. Or at least, something close.
 
could this new character be the one to finally get me to stop playing lion exclusively?

cause i mean shit... spanish wrestlers are bad ass.
 
Unison said:
Looks incredible... I know this was confirmed for PS3... Is it an exclusive?
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VF5 is a good bet to hit the PS3, but there hasn't been shit confirmed for a home version either way. As I've said for over a year now, I expect it to hit both PS3 and X360 and probably at the same time, unless someone is willing to give Sega a ridiculous amount of cash to keep it exclusive for three months, six months, twelve months or for life. I could see the three to six months thing happening, but nothing past that...fighting games just aren't that valuable these days, particularly when Sony's got several in the bank from Namco.







Stinkles said:
I did read something yesterday that literally made me cough. Some FUCK was talking about how it was GREAT that VF5 wasn't online because Akira's knee is a one-frame in 60 move and that could be hurt by lag. FUCK OFF!
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No one said it was great...people simply said they understood. Context is everything, even on a board as full of idiots as this one.

Also, while I think VF5's visuals might be more attractive then DOA4's (I certainly prefer the more textured look and self-shadowing employed on the models), I think it's ridiculous to say it blows DOA4 out of the water. If nothing else DOA4's backgrounds look absolutely stunning, and nothing that's been seen from VF5 so far indicates that it's been bested. Gameplay is another matter entirely, though people sure love to pick and choose when gameplay can and cannot be judged before it's been played.
 
"Isn't that the issue, though? If you wanted to play Virtua Fighter as a competitive experience, you wouldn't play online. Because the product that would be online would be a totally unique/independent game, due to lag. It'd change the entire flow and timing; indeed breaking some aspects of gameplay entirely. You'd just be playing a fighting game online that was Virtua Fighter in name only. It'd have very little relation to actual competitive Virtua Fighter play."

Ding ding ding. I play Virtua Fighter to play Virtua fighter. Not some shoddy experience online.
 
Amir0x said:
Isn't that the issue, though? If you wanted to play Virtua Fighter as a competitive experience, you wouldn't play online. Because the product that would be online would be a totally unique/independent game, due to lag. It'd change the entire flow and timing; indeed breaking some aspects of gameplay entirely. You'd just be playing a fighting game online that was Virtua Fighter in name only. It'd have very little relation to actual competitive Virtua Fighter play.
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You don't get it. Online is to help enhance the FUN. It isn't for your competitive tournaments. You can still have those. Give the rest of us who want to play the game against other people the option to do so. I got a huge laugh out of that Akira knee comment too. We aren't gaming on 56K anymore, either. With the advent of broadband it has minimized the amount of lag occurred in a game.

Ding ding ding. I play Virtua Fighter to play Virtua fighter. Not some shoddy experience online.
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Then don't play it online.

About the game, it does look nice. I don't know how nice because of the grainy pictures but I like the self shadowing. DoA4 shold have this in place and there really isn't a good excuse to leave it out of a next gen fighter.

Of course we have more hyperbolic comments from VF fanatics that this blows DoA4 out of the water. How you made this judgement based on tiny grainy pics is beyond me. Enviroments don't even come close to touching DoA4.
 
Mrbob said:
You don't get it. Online is to help enhance the FUN. It isn't for your competitive tournaments. You can still have those. Give the rest of us who want to play the game against other people the option to do so. I got a huge laugh out of that Akira knee comment too. We aren't gaming on 56K anymore, either. With the advent of broadband it has minimized the amount of lag occurred in a game.



Then don't play it online.
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Thank you!
 
"You don't get it. Online is to help enhance the FUN. It isn't for your competitive tournaments. You can still have those. Give the rest of us who want to play the game against other people the option to do so. I got a huge laugh out of that Akira knee comment too. We aren't gaming on 56K anymore, either. With the advent of broadband it has minimized the amount of lag occurred in a game."

You still don't get it.

"Then don't play it online."

Oh I don't think that'll be a problem :)
 
Shinobi said:
Also, while I think VF5's visuals might be more attractive then DOA4's (I certainly prefer the more textured look and self-shadowing employed on the models), I think it's ridiculous to say it blows DOA4 out of the water. If nothing else DOA4's backgrounds look absolutely stunning, and nothing that's been seen from VF5 so far indicates that it's been bested. Gameplay is another matter entirely, though people sure love to pick and choose when gameplay can and cannot be judged before it's been played.
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Good post and I agree with that.
 
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