Vice: I Asked Cucks Why They’re Obsessed With Watching Their Partners Cheat

What's worse?

A cuck who's wife can only be satisfied by other men? Or a cuck that's so beta their wife will turn to a woman to be satisfied.
 
nkarafo said:
But would you let another guy have sex with your wife/gf?
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Have done so. Not as a cuck though. Just the fun part not the humiliation, I really don't like that. Was pretty sexy actually, both enjoyed it. Not an answer you expected, did you?
 
DS_Joost said:
Have done so. Not as a cuck though. Just the fun part not the humiliation, I really don't like that. Was pretty sexy actually, both enjoyed it. Not an answer you expected, did you?
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To be honest, with the amount of cuck defending you've done...it's not surprising in the least.
 
Greedings said:
To be honest, with the amount of cuck defending you've done...it's not surprising in the least.
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Well I would lie if I said that we aren't pretty open sexually. But not like we would just do anything. It has, however, taught me to look differently at things, yes. To be more understanding. I don't subscribe to many kinks out there, and would never even think of trying them and yes, some go way overboard. But still, I always try to understand the perspective of someone doing it. That doesn't mean I agree or can't find it completely nuts.
 
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I actually think the increase in popularity of such activity stems from porn addiction, which makes people obsessed with voyeurism and the image of sex (as opposed to the act).
 
decisions said:
I actually think the increase in popularity of such activity stems from porn addiction, which makes people obsessed with voyeurism and the image of sex (as opposed to the act).
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Or not enough porn!
 
Cybrwzrd said:
Then what pray tell is the point of the fetish if it isn't about being submissive to another larger, stronger, more virile man?

Wikipedia -
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1) Submission and humiliation are not the same thing.

B) numerous people directly and indirectly are telling you from experience that it's not about humiliation and you're citing wikipedia.
 
decisions said:
Could be true, but wouldn't explain the recent increase in popularity of this.
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Cucks aren't even remotely close to being mainstream or anything. Hell the closest we've gotten to this are swingers which are still a bit different...
 
Cauliflower of Love said:
1) Submission and humiliation are not the same thing.

B) numerous people directly and indirectly are telling you from experience that it's not about humiliation and you're citing wikipedia.
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Well I am not exactly going to google for more info beyond wikipedia while at work about the psychology of being a cuck.

Please go on and go into further details. A big part of submission in sex is about humiliation and playing on insecurities. And the other part of submission being to hand over control of your body to another isn't exactly happening to a cuck.
 
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"I know my wife loves me, I know she's not going anywhere, but the idea that I'm not man enough for her or that she has needs I can't meet really gets me going," he says.
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You know men love fixing problems. Having a wife who you can't hang with in the bedroom...well.

"It's atavistic," he added. "Like, my role as her husband is to give her kids and keep her satisfied, right? But when I'm cucking, it's taking those expectations and totally ripping them away. It's a high like nothing else.'
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Cybrwzrd said:
Well I am not exactly going to google for more info beyond wikipedia while at work about the psychology of being a cuck.

Please go on and go into further details. A big part of submission in sex is about humiliation and playing on insecurities.
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I wouldn't say "big" part, but yes, it can be. Doesn't mean it's definitive.
 
Yeah sure, you "fantasize" about it, watch porn where other people are doing it, but when you're actually watching a dude nail your wife and she's enjoying it, doesn't feel the same. It's like cheating but you know about it ahead of time.
 
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Watching somebody bang a chick that has no relation to you isn't the same thing. Unless you are into ntr.

Wait.
 
Whataburger said:
Double team = cuck?
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But is it cool to double team a random girl with your best friend?

Even Larry?
 
ssolitare said:
There's a ton of options these days to avoid all of that.
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Maybe I am a traditionalist, but if you are going to take a vow of sexual exclusivity (which is common to most marriages, but granted not all), then both parties must be willing to be sexually exclusive and not to neglect one another. Neglect is infidelity.
 
Okay, you know what? I'm done wasting my time here. Some of you are willing to talk and try to be open minded. I want to thank those people. Some of you, however (and you know who you are) are less inclined to give even a smattering of thought to the fact that relationships can be something different than the absolute standard western monogamy thing. No worries. I absolutely wish for you that you will all find the perfect girlfriends (or boys) and that they will completely adhere to your standards of how a relationship will be. God forbid that they will ever even try to think outside the box. If they do, I wish them even more luck, because you guys ain't ever going to budge in even the slightest direction. Which means of course they will totally change for you and never try to cheat or anything because well, you are the sole giver of their luck, lust and love, and they should forever be grateful that you are who you are and that you are the perfect vessel of wisdom, and anyone who says otherwise just hasn't got the slightest idea of knowing how a relationship works. I have an 11 year relationship, and I stand in awe of your wisdom, gentlemen. I might just break it off with these women because well, I am inferior in every sense of the word, and you are right, this shit ain't never gonna work. Damn I wish I did my homework the past 11 years, but apparently, I have learned nothing.

So I am going to break it off and think about my sins, and hopefully, come to the wise conclusion all of you have come to. I have my work cut out for me!
 
DS_Joost said:
Okay, you know what? I'm done wasting my time here. Some of you are willing to talk and try to be open minded. I want to thank those people. Some of you, however (and you know who you are) are less inclined to give even a smattering of thought to the fact that relationships can be something different than the absolute standard western monogamy thing. No worries. I absolutely wish for you that you will all find the perfect girlfriends (or boys) and that they will completely adhere to your standards of how a relationship will be. God forbid that they will ever even try to think outside the box. If they do, I wish them even more luck, because you guys ain't ever going to budge in even the slightest direction. Which means of course they will totally change for you and never try to cheat or anything because well, you are the sole giver of their luck, lust and love, and they should forever be grateful that you are who you are and that you are the perfect vessel of wisdom, and anyone who says otherwise just hasn't got the slightest idea of knowing how a relationship works. I have an 11 year relationship, and I stand in awe of your wisdom, gentlemen. I might just break it off with these women because well, I am inferior in every sense of the word, and you are right, this shit ain't never gonna work. Damn I wish I did my homework the past 11 years, but apparently, I have learned nothing.

So I am going to break it off and think about my sins, and hopefully, come to the wise conclusion all of you have come to. I have my work cut out for me!
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Sorry man, I was trying take your side there.
 
Cybrwzrd said:
Sorry man, I was trying take your side there.
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You were one of the good ones, I know!

Edit: just to elaborate, many people would be wise to take a good look at how you present arguments, and how to be open and rational during a discussion. Take a good look, people, and reflect.
 
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My old-fashioned view of sex is that fetishes and kinks are fine as long as they are used to strengthen the relationship. Too many relationships are poisoned by obsessions with pornography and fetish, as if it needs to be "special" or "exotic" each time in order for it to mean anything. There's also the very real issue of narcissism and abuse in a relationship: this can equally affect men and women. "Fetishes" like cuckoldry or threesomes can sometimes be used as leverage by the narcissist to further cement their control over a supply through humiliation. Cuckoldry is about as poisonous as it gets.

1. It encourages infidelity. Even if both partners agree, they are suspending the normal definition of a relationship in order to get their rocks off. Doesn't seem like a valuable tradeoff, in my opinion.
2. It devalues the existing sexual connection between two partners.
3. It glorifies the loss of "ownership" of your mate while at the same time pretending that "ownership" is still maintained outside of this cuck-bubble. This creates an immature perspective on relationships being about "status" and "ownership" and "mutual agreement" instead of higher virtues such as trust, long-term love, and partnership.
4. It objectifies the act instead of the connection i.e. it's more arousing and exciting to watch your partner (or be watched by your partner) than to actually be involved. It's the next step up from watching porn together.
 
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DS_Joost said:
Well I would lie if I said that we aren't pretty open sexually. But not like we would just do anything. It has, however, taught me to look differently at things, yes. To be more understanding. I don't subscribe to many kinks out there, and would never even think of trying them and yes, some go way overboard. But still, I always try to understand the perspective of someone doing it. That doesn't mean I agree or can't find it completely nuts.
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if you're so open minded, why not just embrace the cuck label?
 
I've been reading this thread and I actually think that DS_Joost has made me think and consider my own opinions. I've been trying to empathize with what he says, as logically I don't consider anything incorrect at face value. If 3 people are happy together and all emotionally satisfied, why should I care? Just like many fetishes and kinks I consider weird, as long as everyone is a willing participant and behaves like responsible adults, I don't really care what people do. They'll have to handle the emotional fallout or whatever if there is any. But as I try to empathize and put myself in his position. there's a very strong feeling of "No, this is wrong." that resonates inside me that I can't particularly defend as anything other than a general personalized sense of right and wrong that I have.

I've actually been talking to my wife about this topic off and on this morning. We've been together just over 10 years now and I guess I'm lucky that we both have a pretty strict preference for monogamy. I look at my children and wonder how many generations it'll be before that is no longer the cultural norm. I think this is all part of a larger debate I've been having in my head about how systems of morals have been changing as society becomes more and more irreligious and whether or not that's a good thing. I'm a pretty staunch atheist, but as I get older I start to find myself enjoying the company of more religious individuals. I don't know, I'm just rambling now.
 
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To those saying "none of my business, anything is cool as long as it's between consensual adults", I would be curious how they feel about that case from Germany a few years back where 2 guys met on Craigslist, 1 wanted to eat another person and the other guy wanted to be eaten. They met up and did it, the eater was jailed I believe. Are we not able to criticize this on the basis that both parties were simply engaging in consensual activities that didn't harm anyone else?
 
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Nymphae said:
To those saying "none of my business, anything is cool as long as it's between consensual adults", I would be curious how they feel about that case from Germany a few years back where 2 guys met on Craigslist, 1 wanted to eat another person and the other guy wanted to be eaten. They met up and did it, the eater was jailed I believe. Are we not able to criticize this on the basis that both parties were simply engaging in consensual activities that didn't harm anyone else?
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Wew lad, going right for the extreme. I'd say I'm ok with it in theory, but in practice I don't know how the eater could ever prove the eaten was a sane and willing participant. A text message/email does not establish soundness of mind.
 
bigedole said:
Wew lad, going right for the extreme. I'd say I'm ok with it in theory, but in practice I don't know how the eater could ever prove the eaten was a sane and willing participant. A text message/email does not establish soundness of mind.
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I forget the specifics of the case, but hypothetically, say they're both "sane" (forgetting for the moment we're talking about people who want to eat and be eaten by other people 😳) - you don't feel you have any ground to criticize this?
 
Nymphae said:
To those saying "none of my business, anything is cool as long as it's between consensual adults", I would be curious how they feel about that case from Germany a few years back where 2 guys met on Craigslist, 1 wanted to eat another person and the other guy wanted to be eaten. They met up and did it, the eater was jailed I believe. Are we not able to criticize this on the basis that both parties were simply engaging in consensual activities that didn't harm anyone else?
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I don't think this example works since we are talking about murdering and then eating someone. Thats a far ways away from having someone sleep with your SO.

I am not into the cuck thing, seems like its a great way to ruin a relationship but if people can make it work all the power to them. And if they can't make it work then it will be a life lesson to them that fantasy does not always equal reality.
 
Nymphae said:
I forget the specifics of the case, but hypothetically, say they're both "sane" (forgetting for the moment we're talking about people who want to eat and be eaten by other people 😳) - you don't feel you have any ground to criticize this?
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I guess it is a good thing thing that bulls don't cook and eat their cucks. They just get to eat the wife's y.
 
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