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Vice-Presidential Debate |OT| The Big F$@*ing Deal vs. The Randian from Dairyland

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Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
A woman in CNN's focus group called Biden a "buffoon" who "kept trying to distort things" whenever he jumped in.

Meanwhile, CNN's fact checking so far has declared the points of Biden's they've looked as so far as "True" while labeling the points of Ryan's that they looked at as "Misleading."

Some of these people are just operating in some parallel universe.

Or they're completely biased and have already decided who they're voting for, making their presence there worthless.
 

CrankyJay

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Man your defense job was fucked up.

Every other day when I go to the supervisors meeting they grill us over and over about the Hatch Act and how we have to make sure everyone is aware that there should be NO POLITICAL ACTIVITY on government time. We're only barely allowed to have political bumper stickers on our cars after much debate lol

We're also being given intensive 'sensitivity training' because there is huge swells of racism after Obama won last time; and we're being given the same meetings now about it. A huge "It's the White House, not Black House" graffiti; ripped down Obama calendars/photos, numerous "sand ******" comments caught; three employees fired for their comments. We're trying to avoid this disaster this year :p

You're making me wish I kept those mailings. It never came right out and said it but if you read in between the lines it was blatantly obvious who they preferred you voted for. LOL.
 
Can we talk about how Biden knocked the abortion question out the fuckin park? Empathetic to religion but respectful of women's choices. I really didn't know he could do so well.

He was entertaining to watch in the beginning, but once foreign policy came out, he was fucking all business.

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AniHawk

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Man your defense job was fucked up.

Every other day when I go to the supervisors meeting they grill us over and over about the Hatch Act and how we have to make sure everyone is aware that there should be NO POLITICAL ACTIVITY on government time. We're only barely allowed to have political bumper stickers on our cars after much debate lol

We're also being given intensive 'sensitivity training' because there is huge swells of racism after Obama won last time; and we're being given the same meetings now about it. A huge "It's the White House, not Black House" graffiti; ripped down Obama calendars/photos, numerous "sand ******" comments caught; three employees fired for their comments. We're trying to avoid this disaster this year :p

why not just fire all of the people who do that? i think it says something about them if they're not able to keep their emotions in check, at the very least. not worth having around. i'm sure others would gladly accept a job there too.
 

~Kinggi~

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I have to say Ryan's avoidance of the issues was a breath of fresh air compared to Romney's outright onlsaught of lies about the issues.

Lol i felt the same way. His avoidance communicated a lot more to people their problems. Whereas Romney stayed aggressive with the bullshit and so uninformed folk wouldnt know any better.
 

Discusguy

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As an dependant voter, Biden clearly beat Ryan. Experience truly paid off. I liked how Biden kept on talking to the American people.

My wife doesn't know anything about American politics. She just said Biden looked more honest and Ryan looked too sneaky and shady.
 

Amir0x

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why not just fire all of the people who do that? i think it says something about them if they're not able to keep their emotions in check, at the very least. not worth having around. i'm sure others would gladly accept a job there too.

We fired almost anyone that we could prove did something like this (thus the three let go employees) and anyone who was Union we forced the issue and at least netted suspensions out of it. But even though we launched major investigations into the graffiti and the calendar ripping, we never were able to find out who did it.

It's a very difficult task when everyone was freaking out in a Depot that is like 75% Republican, last I remember hearing.
 
I don't like either party or candidates - doesn't mean I can't watch and comment on the election. I hate the vitriol, demonizing of other party, and naming calling. Neither Obama or Romney make me want to vote for them and I refuse to vote against the one I like the least.
Then vote for who you like. I'm mystified how people struggle with this notion.
 
I only watched NBC's coverage and their panel came to a consensus that the debate was a tie. Next Tuesday's presidential debate will be very important to say the least
 
I'm an independent, and I can't fathom people who say Ryan won the debate over Biden. Were they not listening to what the two were actually saying and just listening to tone of voice?

We're human beings, not puppies! We can go on more than "Oh Biden is saying something but it's loud and angry! He's a meanie-face!" "Oh Ryan is calm and collected! He clearly knows what he's talking about!" Just listen to what was actually said and it's obvious who won the debate.
 

LordCanti

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Biden easily won the debate, but I could have done with less laughter and smiling. It's hard to control when your opponent is describing his tale of not aborting his "bean" fetus, and how that somehow correlates to what poor people go through when considering abortions. Or discussing how they're going to fix the economy by cutting taxes and "cutting spending" (but not on the military) which totally doesn't mean cutting spending on the middle and lower classes. Ryan should have taken a page out of Romney's playbook and just lied through his teeth. Hopefully the President will take a page out of Biden's playbook and not let him get away with it at the next debate.

I like the twitter wall of conservatives calling out the moderator as biased, despite questions like "I know a soldier, and he thinks the drawdown of troops was politically motivated and that it's costing lives" directed squarely at Biden. She didn't let either candidate get away without answering questions.
 
Well, Obama promised to cut the deficit in half and look where that has gotten us.

Yeah, it's gotten us to... the deficit actually getting cut in half. Neat!

Also--- how many GD times does Romney (and or I) need to state that there is no $5 Trillion dollar tax cut. Shit is maddening!

You're right, there's $5 trillion in decreased tax revenue somehow offset by $5 trillion in closed loopholes that somehow don't include anything that affects the middle class.
 

coldfoot

Banned
I hate the vitriol, demonizing of other party, and naming calling.
Democrats ain't no saints, but the current Republican party would come right after Nazi Germany and the Taliban/Saudi Arabian Government on the list of groups that deserve to be demonized...
 

Amir0x

Banned
Are you sure someone said that? Also please someone commentate on what's being said on Fox. I need the laughs and face_plains.

Oh I'm sure. It was repeated TWICE. The other person said "I think BOTH of them overstudied!"

What a joke.

Seriously...my head craned backwards to see who said it on CNN because i was like "DA FUG?"

Facts don't matter!

Or maybe they matter too much!

CNN reports the neutral position and let's you decide! Also, maybe the sun is cold? Prove it's not!
 
I only watched NBC's coverage and their panel came to a consensus that the debate was a tie. Next Tuesday's presidential debate will be very important to say the least

What NBC, Fox, CNN, MSNBC say doesnt matter. What the surveying that went on during the debate says matters. Biden destroyed Ryan.
 

watershed

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I'm glad Biden did well. He came out aggressive and prepared. Sharp, now that's what Obama needs to be. If Joe Biden can make a point clearly and with force, surely Obama can manage the same.
 
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