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VIDEO: Las Vegas judge attacked during sentencing hearing

FeralEcho

Member
Look at the dude in the front in the blue suit. Just fucking stands there while 2 guys are trying to restrain the suspect while he's landing blows on the judge.

Unbelievable. How are all the men in that court room not coming to her aide?
Well,it's America so between being labeled as racist for "attacking" a person of colour and being a toxic male for depriving that woman of her "strong female character" ability to do things on her own I think I can guess why he wouldn't want to get involved lol

Well that or he's spineless like most people nowadays...
 

HoodWinked

Member
Look at the dude in the front in the blue suit. Just fucking stands there while 2 guys are trying to restrain the suspect while he's landing blows on the judge.

Unbelievable. How are all the men in that court room not coming to her aide?

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RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth
This animal isnt worth the time, take him out the back and put one in the back of his head, dump body into a big hole, $$$ saved
 

DKehoe

Member


26-65 years for attack..

He was also heard saying, 'Nah, f*** that b****' as he tackled the judge in an attack that prosecutors described as 'Superman style' after Holthus rejected his pleas for further probation.
These dark and gritty superhero reboots are getting out of hand.
 

Trogdor1123

Member
Doesn’t matter, it’s abuse of the law. It’s not justice, it’s just vengeance.
Not sure I agree with you (although I would agree 65 years is excessive) . Those in the chairs making the decisions need to be a position where they can’t be intimidated as it would entirely undermine the legal system. There are plenty of times when the punishment likely exceeds “justice” because of whom the victim is.

Happy to have my mind changed though.
 

diffusionx

Gold Member
Doesn’t matter, it’s abuse of the law. It’s not justice, it’s just vengeance.
Attempted murder is a serious crime.

I don’t want this guy anywhere he could hurt anyone, ever. Lock him up for life, I don’t care, and do it for more like him. We are too soft on these lunatics and it means they are free to roam around cities terrorizing normal people.
 
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Obviously. But generally speaking, people that commit murder are bad and deserve severe punishment.
There are other parts of the world where this line of thinking isn't the norm, and they instead want to try and find a more humane way through everything. America has it's own system that mostly works for America, but America's system can't apply to other places as easily due to a ton of factors including crime rate and types of crimes for starters.
 

FalconPunch

Gold Member
Not sure I agree with you (although I would agree 65 years is excessive) . Those in the chairs making the decisions need to be a position where they can’t be intimidated as it would entirely undermine the legal system. There are plenty of times when the punishment likely exceeds “justice” because of whom the victim is.

Happy to have my mind changed though.
The problem is the current legal system is undermined. In fact, it would be probably be more fair for AI to hand out sentences than current judges. At least the outcome would be more predictable. The truth of the matter is that if this dude jumped at and attacked a random person in the courtroom other than the judge, he’s not getting that much time.

Finally, the legal system is corrupt to the core. You only need to look at Clarance Thomas’s dealings to know that any semblance of justice should be disregarded.
Attempted murder is a serious crime.

I don’t want this guy anywhere he could hurt anyone, ever. Lock him up for life, I don’t care, and do it for more like him. We are too soft on these lunatics and it means they are free to roam around cities terrorizing normal people.
Him jumping on a judge and punching her is assault not attempted murder smh.
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Its peculiar. Rape there nets you a life behind bars, whilst here, its (at most) 3-4 years, but more commonly its 2 years with the amount of pre-arrest reduced after the fact. Meaning that in general these folks serve less than a year and sometimes its not even about that but rather a hey don't do that.

Sometimes i honestly am bewildered how the Dutch still keep their cool despite the risk of jail being this low compared to other countires. And vice versa, the risk of jail in the US should be enough of a deterrence not to do anything that can cause you trouble? I know the facts speak for themselves, but man it shouldn't be that difficult being just a bloke. But here we are.
 

FalconPunch

Gold Member
I could see like 10-15 since it was a judge, but 26?! Jesus
Like I said, serious abuse of power. Is a judge more valuable than a regular person? If yes, how much more valuable? To be frank, I don't think this individual gets a year in prison if this attack was committed on a regular civilian so is a judge 26x more valuable than a private civilian?

People who think actions shouldn't have consequences, also known as a lunatic.
Haha, you spent all that time and this is the best you could come up with? You're a big coward lol, beating around the bush like the quack you are.. Instead of you to say what you want to say, you instead skirt around like coward lol. Also for the record, I never once suggested that there shouldn't be consequences. I just questioned the severity of the consequence but, you'd have to be literate to understand....
 
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Polygonal_Sprite

Gold Member
That’s extreme in the opposite direction
Life in the UK is usually 12-15 years for say a single murder. If they behave they get out 50% early. Our prisons are at crisis point right now in Scotland. A lot of people got out during Covid due to not enough cells for adequate spacing and now you have to really do something serious to get a custodial sentence.
 

Jinzo Prime

Member
Haha, you spent all that time and this is the best you could come up with? You're a big coward lol, beating around the bush like the quack you are..
I'm at work you dumbass, I'm not giving you my undivided attention! But thank you for the huge public freakout over a one sentence reply.

All of you all calling this extreme!?? WTF he's clearly an unhinged mental patient prone to explosive rage, who attacked a judge FFS, he deserves the book bate of his stupid AF head and removed from civilised society, he's a fucking danger to normal human beings
I think the total number of years is excessive, but the consequences of doing what he did was extremely predictable. This is not how you behave if you have a problem with a judge, you lose all sympathy and impetus.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
it's just wild, what is the totality that he's contributed to society, versus all of the law enforcement, all of the victims, all of these resources, the court time, lawyers, judges all just being dumped into a bottomless pit.

such a small number of people contribute to the vast majority of problems.
It can be argued (wild argument I admit) that all these wastes of space losers give people jobs (courts, cops, prison guards lawyers etc...).

It also gives normal folks good videos to laugh at. lol
 
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IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
To be frank, I don't think this individual gets a year in prison if this attack was committed on a regular civilian so is a judge 26x more valuable than a private civilian?
Honestly really would depend on who he jumped and why, and how much can be proven. That is how the law kind of works, as sentences have a huge range.

If he attacked this same woman in the same way who was working at a McDonald's, with the same amount of witnesses, and cameras, and audio.. he could very easily see more than a year.

If he attacked a random dude on a random street with no witnesses that would be different.

But having said all that, I do agree the sentence is still severe. But having said THAT, yes, attacking a judge in court should be treated specially. As stated previously, upholding the rule of law sometimes requires protecting certain people more. Same reason you get in far more trouble bribing an officer of a court vs. bribing your doctor for some pills.
 
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FalconPunch

Gold Member
But having said all that, I do agree the sentence is still severe. But having said THAT, yes, attacking a judge in court should be treated specially. As stated previously, upholding the rule of law sometimes requires protecting certain people more. Same reason you get in far more trouble bribing an officer of a court vs. bribing your doctor for some pills.
Here's the problem I have with this whole issue. The judges are sufficiently protected. This incident occurred in a court room with multiple bailiffs present. If this was a case where the accused sought out the judge outside of court, I'd agree with the sentence. This sentence absolves the bailiffs of their woeful failure to do the job which they are paid for. This whole incident should have never occurred. The moment, the prisoner attempted to get up, they should have reacted. If the sentence was 10 years or less, I have no problems with it. 26 years? The judge is having a laugh... People rape, commit manslaughter, even murder and get less time. 26 years for assaulting a judge in court due to the failure of the bailiffs is one of the biggest perversions of justice I've seen recently. On top of all that, tax dollars have to pay for 26 years for this perversion of justice.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Here's the problem I have with this whole issue. The judges are sufficiently protected. This incident occurred in a court room with multiple bailiffs present. If this was a case where the accused sought out the judge outside of court, I'd agree with the sentence. This sentence absolves the bailiffs of their woeful failure to do the job which they are paid for. This whole incident should have never occurred. The moment, the prisoner attempted to get up, they should have reacted. If the sentence was 10 years or less, I have no problems with it. 26 years? The judge is having a laugh... People rape, commit manslaughter, even murder and get less time. 26 years for assaulting a judge in court due to the failure of the bailiffs is one of the biggest perversions of justice I've seen recently. On top of all that, tax dollars have to pay for 26 years for this perversion of justice.
I didn't mean specifically them being physically protected, but generally protected from influence or intimidation.

This would have been worse if she were attacked on the street though, as you do have a point, they are quite literally guarded at their jobs most of the time.

But what is being protected is the concepts, not the individual. We label all kinds of things with general terms like "Assault", "Battery," "Fraud", etc. but not every specific crime is treated exactly the same way under these umbrellas, usually for good reasons. (and like I said that, beyond that, doing something on camera with tons of witnesses with clear cut audio, etc. is just idiotic, and that generally will get you more time for whatever anyways)

I do agree the sentence is too strong, just saying throwing around "1 year" is not helping your case. People do much longer than that for similar assaults in certain circumstances. Try randomly jumping an old lady for instance on CCTV and see what your sentence is.

In the end the law is highly subjective partly due to jury trials. The prosecutors are playing a game to maximize sentences, and the game involves "hey what do you think I can get a jury to do?" as much or more as it does "what is this particular crime actually worth sentencing someone over?" I think it all can be really abusive quite commonly.
 
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I do agree the sentence is too strong, just saying throwing around "1 year" is not helping your case. People do much longer than that for similar assaults in certain circumstances. Try randomly jumping an old lady for instance on CCTV and see what your sentence is.

In 2021, Neely socked a 67-year-old woman as she exited the Bowery station in the East Village in Lower Manhattan.

The woman sustained a broken nose, a fractured orbital bone, and "bruising, swelling and substantial pain to the back of her head" in the Nov. 12 attack, according to a criminal complaint.

Neely pleaded guilty to felony assault Feb. 9 in exchange for a 15-month alternative-to-incarceration program, according to the Manhattan District Attorney's Office. He was supposed to stay in a treatment facility and abstain from drugs.

If he had completed the program, the felony assault would have been reduced to a misdemeanor, but he skipped a compliance court date and left the facility. A warrant was issued for his arrest on Feb. 23. It wasn't immediately clear how long he spent in jail awaiting the resolution of the assault case.
Not clear if there was CCTV evidence.

Personally, I think a completely random act of violence should be treated with more severity.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole

Not clear if there was CCTV evidence.

Personally, I think a completely random act of violence should be treated with more severity.
That's an interesting example. There are other factors though like their age and history with the law, as well as their mental state and whether being medicated / treated is something that would help.

But you also can EASILY get serious time for something like that.
 
That's an interesting example. There are other factors though like their age and history with the law, as well as their mental state and whether being medicated / treated is something that would help.

But you also can EASILY get serious time for something like that.
And to me that's a fundamental problem. Maybe some wiggle room in sentencing but when I say wiggle room I mean 15-20%. Not one dude gets a 26-year sentence and the other gets treatment program. (and these guys both had long records). Give people treatment if they need it in prison not instead of it, and give em a chance with more treatment when their sentence is up.
 
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