Visiting friend's newborn & asked to get shots (Mods: Get your whooping cough shot)

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Loads of friends and family (in several countries) have had kids and they've never asked anyone to get shots. I'd assume it's some massively overly-protective parenting, or a "thing" that people in their country tend to do!
 
siddx said:
Yes there is. But you seem to be a parent, so I'm not gonna argue with an already crazy person.
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I am a parent, but you can go back through my post history from before I was one to see that my opinion on the subject hasn't changed.

I never play the "you're not a parent" card. Try again.
 
It's not crazy. It is a bit overprotective. But in this day and age, I'd be all for doing this one thing to make them happy and keep the baby healthy and maybe it'll keep you healthier in the long run too.
 
Lurch666 said:
I've never heard of this before.
If the baby is being breast fed then it should be getting all the antibodies from it's mother (who I presume has had those shots).
plus aren't vaccines small doses of the illness so your body can fight it off and produce antibodies-might this not increase the risk to the baby.

Plus when the baby goes outside will they not let anyone else near.

I know parents worry about their child (I have two myself) but this seems overkill to me.
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I cant even....

Nope to all of this. Nope nope nope.
 
This is completely normal and all doctors and nurses involved in pregnancy and childbirth tell new parents again and again to make sure that anybody who is going to be having more than cursory contact with the child (grandparents, aunts, cousins, close friends, etc) has their TDAP vaccination up to date. You can thank the anti-vaxxers for bringing back the whooping cough and making this a necessity.
 
If they are asking you to get the shots, take it as a compliment. Typically parents only ask people they expect to be close to and hold their newborn to get shots. It is completely reasonable and takes 5 min at pretty much any major pharmacy in the US. If you think it is too much to ask, go youtube babies with whooping cough. We asked our immediate family, those we knew would be interacting with the baby the first few months to get the shots. They all happily obliged and said it was really easy to go get them at CVS. No doctors appointment needed.
 
Lurch666 said:
plus aren't vaccines small doses of the illness so your body can fight it off and produce antibodies-might this not increase the risk to the baby.
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No. One, vaccines use a dead or weakened form of the virus that can't infect you, and two, you can't spread a disease unless you're infected and contagious. It's impossible for a vaccine to cause infection in a second person.

This is a totally reasonable request. Things like flu and whooping cough kill babies. If you're going to be in close contact with very young children, it makes sense to be vaccinated.
 
Lurch666 said:
I'm not anti vax.I did not mean you should not get your child vaccinated.I was just saying that a breast fed child should be find against this sort of stuff.At no pint did I say the child does not need vaccinations.
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You say you're not anti-vax yet you posted this:

Lurch666 said:
I know parents worry about their child (I have two myself) but this seems overkill to me.
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So you're not anti-vax yet you think it's overkill to get vaccinated?

You can't have it both ways.

If you're not anti-vax yet stand by what you've said then you're lazy, inconsiderate, and a hyporcite.
 
https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/pregnant/mom/protection.html

You can provide indirect protection to your baby by making sure everyone who is around him is up-to-date with their whooping cough vaccine. When your baby’s family members and caregivers get vaccinated with a whooping cough vaccine they are not only protecting their own health, but also helping form a "cocoon" of disease protection around the baby during the first few months of life. Anyone who is around babies should be up-to-date with their whooping cough vaccine.
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SlimySnake said:
Just wash your hands when you enter the house and if you even have a slight cough/runny nose, dont go see the baby.

Other than that, no that's just stupid. The Flu shots dont prevent you from getting the flu. I got it when we had our son and it did jack shit. i didnt make anyone in my family get it. but they knew when they were sick they couldnt come see the baby.

I swear, people are going fucking nuts. we all survived without forcing every relative to get flu shots. ffs.
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No; if you're not going to do as the new father asks then don't go to see the babe at all.
 
Good on the OP for asking and taking the advice.

Not every newborn is robust. For all anyone knows, they are just following their doctors advice. It is not be over protective. It's being practical.
 
From the crazy Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC):

Encourage others to get a whooping cough vaccine (called Tdap vaccine) at least 2 weeks before meeting your baby if they are not up-to-date with their whooping cough vaccines.

Adults 19 years old or older (who are not pregnant) should get only one dose of the whooping cough vaccine for adolescents and adults. If an adult will be around your baby and has already had Tdap vaccine, they are not recommended to get vaccinated again. Whooping cough vaccines are effective, but unfortunately the protection they provide does not last as long as we would like. That is why current public health efforts are focused on protecting babies, since they are at greatest risk of life-threatening complications from whooping cough.
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It's not common to ask that at all, but it's not unreasonable if they're really hyper-concerned, especially as new parents.

siddx said:
Yes there is. But you seem to be a parent, so I'm not gonna argue with an already crazy person.
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This post is so embarrassing for you. I have 2nd hand embarrassment for you.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable, but for me seeing a baby isn't something I couldn't easily put off. I'm a parent and I never really thought about this stuff tbh. Seems more sensible to me to just limit your kid from seeing many people as an infant. My natural reaction to people telling me to get shots would be to make up a reason I couldn't attend lol.
 
turnbuckle said:
You say you're not anti-vax yet you posted this:



So you're not anti-vax yet you think it's overkill to get vaccinated?

You can't have it both ways.

If you're not anti-vax then you're lazy, inconsiderate, and a hyporcite.
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???????
I'm sorry but I think got crossed wires here.
Isn't anti vaxx all about not getting the BABY vaccinated?
That's not what I'm talking about.I'm saying that I have never heard if anyone asking a visitor who is coming to see a baby to get shots.I had loads of people visiting my kids when they were born and never got told to make sure they were vaccinated first.
 
The reason this shit is becoming more common for parents to request of friends and family, is because all the anti-vaxx garbage out there. Whooping cough is more common, measles are coming back, etc. My mother in law is a school teacher and has caught whooping cough from kids three times in two years. The incident rate is increasing because less people are getting vaccinated.
 
We just got our packet of "crap to do" as our first is due in a couple months.

The TDAP is required for us but they said it was only for people who were going to be in constant contact with the kid. So it sounds like your friends are just being extra cautious having visitors get it as well.
 
Lurch666 said:
I've never heard of this before.
If the baby is being breast fed then it should be getting all the antibodies from it's mother (who I presume has had those shots).
plus aren't vaccines small doses of the illness so your body can fight it off and produce antibodies-might this not increase the risk to the baby.

Plus when the baby goes outside will they not let anyone else near.

I know parents worry about their child (I have two myself) but this seems overkill to me.
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They don't generally make live vaccines anymore, there's 0 risk to the baby.
 
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https://www.cdc.gov/pertussis/surv-reporting/cases-by-year.html

Whooping cough cases in 1975: 1,738
Whooping cough cases in 2015: 20,762
 
Have lots of friends and family that has proposed these shots to everyone before visiting the baby. Completely understandable their intentions and for the protection of the newborn's immunity limitations.

Literally takes like 15 minutes to go into any pharmacy and get a TDAP. It's not unreasonable(but it can take upwards of 2 weeks to go into effect, so don't visit like the next day).
 
Lurch666 said:
???????
I'm sorry but I think got crossed wires here.
Isn't anti vaxx all about not getting the BABY vaccinated?
That's not what I'm talking about.I'm saying that I have never heard if anyone asking a visitor who is coming to see a baby to get shots.I had loads of people visiting my kids when they were born and never got told to make sure they were vaccinated first.
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Your doctor didn't give you the pamphlet and speeches on TDAP? Where do you live? Genuinely curious. I'm in Southern California, which is basically ground zero for anti-vaxxers, so its possible that the doctors go overboard here trying to proselytize people into getting their shots.
 
If you started college within the last 10 years you likely still have an active TDAP booster. I got my first ever flu shot last year because of having kids.
 
If they request this from friends who are visiting, I imagine they will be the kind of parents to not let the kid out of the house before 16 months.

But it's thier kid, their rules.

edit: I also got Pertussis a few years back, indistinguishable from a light cold in the first few days, no one should ever see a baby even when slightly sick.
 
I'm about as pro-vax as you can get but that seems a bit excessive. Had three kids and we just asked people not to come over if they were sick or feeling like they were getting sick. Also, washing hands before touching the baby is just understood (or politely asked). Last thing we'd want is someone who thinks they can't get the baby sick because they've had a couple vaccinations coming over while ignoring that tickle in back of their throat.

That said, if it is important to them I'd support them as asked.
 
Father of two who is pro vaccine, but I would never ask for only people with the flu shot or whopping cough vaccine to visit my baby. Our newborn has been sick a lot, but that is part of life when you have another kid going to school all day and brings back god knows what from there. Babies can get the flu shot at 6 months so I guess they are keeping the baby indoors with not much contact till June?
 
I would say it's an overreaction but I'd respect their wished if I were in your position.

First kid right? With the next one they'll lighten up, that kid will be playing in the garbage and eaten bugs and worms on the playground
 
Since you are flying to meet them, it does make sense to get the flu shot. I do recall a few times when I did get sick after flying. It would've flown under my radar too if you haven't mentioned it (I have a niece due soon).
 
Calamari41 said:
Your doctor didn't give you the pamphlet and speeches on TDAP? Where do you live? Genuinely curious. I'm in Southern California, which is basically ground zero for anti-vaxxers, so its possible that the doctors go overboard here trying to proselytize people into getting their shots.
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U.K.My youngest is 20 now so it was a while ago.I had both my kids vaccinated.
 
This exact scenario happened to me last year. Friend's had a baby, we were coming to visit, but a couple months before we were going to visit they asked us to make sure we were updated on our TDAP. I honestly didn't even realize I wasn't up-to-date on my TDAP until I called my doctor and they told me it was missing (along with my flu shot for this year, but I had planned to get that before thinking about the TDAP).

Anyway, we got our shots updated (flu + TDAP) and then we went and saw the kid a few weeks later.

Really easy and the smart thing to do. Yes, it's not common for parents to ask this of their friends/family, but it should be common, because we need more people to fight the anti-vax movement. Get your damn shots, OP.
 
I'd you're going to be around kids or old people you need to get both of these shots. It is perfectly normal, or at least it should be.

Edit: whooping cough is making a comeback because of shitty anti-vax morons and it has killed children. Parents that are brave enough to beat friends/family over the head about the need to be vaccinated are heroes in my book.
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
And I responded to the OP without insulting him whereas siddx called the parents "crazy fuckers."
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Crazy fucks, not fuckers. Very different things. Fucks are already fucked by crazy, fuckers are actively fucking others with their crazy.
I thought that was in most parental handbooks?
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
"Can you please get shots you already should have gotten anyway?"

WHOA! Overprotective much?!
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Flu shots ate an effective means of heard immunity, but relying on it for specific protection is delusional.

Parents are free to stack the odds on their side, but to act like everyone who got the shot are 100% ok to visit is lying to yourself.
 
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