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Vita "hacked," (PSP) homebrew on the way (not piracy)
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Portugeezer
Member
Call me when we can increase the clock speeds and have good framerates on Vita games.
I've heard the argument, and I think it's silly. And I think it's a huge mistake to stop the search for the reason once piracy has been identified as a cause, because there's no way it's the core cause even if it is a contributing factor. And the lack of an answer is part of why Vita continues to struggle, despite being closed to piracy.
disappeared
Banned
Smiles and Cries
Member
Region Free platforms do not deserve to get hacked 
Poor Vita
Poor Vita
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Surprised it was before the 3DS, tbh. lol.
Which is why the DS comparison is still valid. You can't blame something for happening when the exact same problem is occurring simultaneously on a competing platform, yet for some strange reason the games continued to be localized and released for the DS.
Region Free platforms do not deserve to get hacked
Poor Vita
Isn't it easier to hack region free devices?
DidntKnowJack
Member
Because lord knows the real money is made through hardware sales.
Certainly not. That has no bearing whatsoever on it.
Alex
Member
The real money isn't made through the Vita.
DidntKnowJack
Member
And this news guarantees it never will.
Can't wait for the emulators, N64 for example! I'll still wait for the re-design tho
That honestly sounds like a very long wait.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yep. I hope it's not a total exploit as we're able to buy things digitally and the risk of compromising PSN access is too high for me as I've spent thousands on PSN.
It is what it is. Someone, I'm sure some will try to rationalize this as somehow different when it absolutely obliterated PSP minus the big name games. Even those were pirated to hell and back.
Consider yourself in the minority. I did the exact same thing but the vast majority actually went out and either A)had the UMD game and were too lazy to rip so they went and downloaded it off torrent or site - or B)outright pirated.
Heck, even the possibility of some that were doing it for good legit backup reasons probably corrupted them to pirate a game here and there. It's all over the forums. This one just doesn't allow that as much. Well we can talk jailbreaking and such but not direct piracy. I have nothing to really say on the matter but information isn't exactly hiding.
I look at this as a potential blow for the SW situation if kernel access is attained.
On the other side, I would love other apps to work in this manner but I don't want to risk losing PSN access. Nothing is worth that when you're heavily invested. I do want stuff like Watch ESPN or other apps that the community can make. But playing backups when everything is already in digital form would simply be a facade. So to that end, I hope this doesn't lead to piracy.
Nah... this is just a user level exploit. Far from it !
They probably don't care. Some can get 2; 1 for games, 1 for homebrew.
criesofthepast
Member
Yikes at this news.
On the bright side - Hardware sales up 100000000%!!!
On the bright side - Hardware sales up 100000000%!!!
What's the connection between people wanting to use the Vita for certain things and hating Sony?
SpaceBridge
Member
This. I'm stumped too.
Since you kind of know what you are talking about, can you explain in layman's terms what the hell is going on. This entire thread has jumped the gun.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
32gig Vita card: $99
32gig SDmicro: $19
I'm sure the adapter needed would be super cheap.
Huhhh? What you quoted was a description of a period where piracy of new PSP games was not possible, so they most certainly did not do any of that at that time.
SolidSnakex
Member
Can someone explain where this idea came from? It's especially bizarre in a thread that's had the Dreamcast mentioned a number of times. There's a platform that was hacked to hell and back and saw no hardware sales increase from it. Sega even discontinued the system 6 months after the platform was hacked.
Why would you do that?
Member
Did anyone read the OP at all
Well IIRC the original PSP didn't have kernel access when it was hacked. Various hacks throughout the PSP's life (like the .png hack or the PSP Go for a while) didn't have kernel access, either. Finding a hole to the kernel isn't necessarily going to be easy, and who knows if it's possible, but getting the system to run custom code is a huge step.
It will be patched before you know it, but once the system is busted open and everyone has the ability to poke around with custom code, it will raise the probability of new exploits being found. It's what happened with the PSP (and Wii, I think)
That said, even without kernel access, we should be able to get all the awesome stuff, except maybe a good Android port, depending on how the kernel works.
As long as this doesn't open the floodgates to playing pirated Vita software, this is great news.
If it does allow pirated Vita games, like the CFW on the PSP, then it might as well be the Vitaggedon.
The real crime here is that you could potentially do a lot of neat emulation through PS Suite developed stuff, if only Sony got around to getting it into our hands first.
If it does allow pirated Vita games, like the CFW on the PSP, then it might as well be the Vitaggedon.
The real crime here is that you could potentially do a lot of neat emulation through PS Suite developed stuff, if only Sony got around to getting it into our hands first.
Eh ? Some enthusiast found a way to write and run your own native app on Vita and is soliciting developers. You can't run a different OS, or change hardware config, or pirate games. You can write your own native PS Mobile app (e.g., "Hello World", remote desktop app, ...). That's it.
encephalon
Member
Probably because there are enough people paying for the games for the DS. The PSP was successful in Japan, but it's not like it wasn't hacked and pirated there. It was, but there were enough people buying games to support the platform.
32Gb is $80 now. Cheaper if you take advantage of promos.
Adaptor will probably need to be developed from scratch since on the Vita side, the USB port and slots are proprietary + shipping.
Sony isn't making money on hardware. This is VERY bad for them. Increased hardware sales without software sales is actually a loss increase.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Yep. Havent updated my Vita. Excited times indeed. This is what happens when Sony doesn't do shit.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Time for two vitas. one homebrewed and one legit.
It's something that can be patched, at any rate. So it's way more useless than writing a PS Mobile app unless you're forever done with updating your Vita firmware.
MrCunningham
Member
It mostly comes from the current state of DS and PSP sales in the western market. the DS had a sales boost due to rampant piracy over the system being hacked. How many people do you know that own a DS with some sort of flash cartridge? I know quite a few, and not people you would consider to be hard core gamers either.
The PSP had the same fate too... decent hardware sales for a while, but rather poor software sales. Mostly because of piracy.
Yes, very likely to be patched quickly once Sony found the hole.
I'm actually waiting for an answer to your question too. Then I can go dinner. 8^)
OldJadedGamer
Banned
32gig Vita cards are still $99.99 MSRP from Sony.
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666420153
Also, the R4 is custom why can't a Vita memory card adapter be?
Delusibeta
Banned
On the one hand, its good news if I wanted to use emulators on something with a) good buttons and b) a good screen. On the other hand, if Sony doesn't swat it immediately it'll only lead to mass piracy and the inevitable discontinuation of the console (I'd wager within 12 months of someone successfully pirating a Vita game on it).
Why would you want to buy MSRP from Sony, instead of from cheaper and more popular sources like Amazon ? ^_^
People who want to homebrew their Vita, and buy special adaptor from small shops should know how to shop smarter right ?
I didn't say Vita adaptor can't be custom. First, comparison with R4 is irrelevant because they are 2 different tech. Second, by the time it happens, the price will likely drop some more. You'll just have to do your own comparison.
panama chief
Member
The hack wouldnt be possible without the device (in this case, the Vita) in the first place
The console was the only nice thing from Sony, it was time for a new handheld and Sony wants that $250. They got my $250+ then we go through the drought, then the "you need a ps3 for psp games" bullshit, then the no ps+ for you guys yet, then the "you need a ps3 for these ps one games" bullshit.
I'm not trolling the handheld, cause I love it, but sonys software handling is lacking.
bring on the home brew hackers. Bring it soon.