We have a chatroom sometimes.
We had one last night. I basically sat talking to myself because everyone else refused to use mics
Firecloud and I were talking when we were in there but YOU weren't!
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Firecloud and I were talking when we were in there but YOU weren't!
No, it's glitched.
Mine stays checked, but it didn't upload anything last night.
Mine stays checked, but it didn't upload anything last night.
Interesting...
You can still upload manually for the time being though, so its not a big deal.
Canis lupus
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Iacobellis
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We have a chatroom sometimes.
We had one last night. I basically sat talking to myself because everyone else refused to use mics
Whoa, you guys have to let me in on these!
So getting in on the Gamestop Buy 1 Get 1. Getting Lumines for sure, but debating between Dynasty Warriors and Metal Gear Solid HD... Already have beat the Metal Gears on PS2, but haven't played HD versions, also I have never played a Dynasty Warrior game, but hack and slash sounds like fun.
What to get, what to get... Its that or get Mortal Kombat..
What to get, what to get... Its that or get Mortal Kombat..
If you havent played MK yet, it has ton of content. MGS2 and 3 are the same as MGS2 Sub and MGS3 so you dont miss out much (except excessive trophy hunting). If you dont have an insatiable hunger to replay MG (like I did), go with MK if you have any interest in Beat em ups. Tons of kontent.
Get Persona 4
Iacobellis
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Did this deal start today? The only one I am aware of is the B2G1 on used items.
Glitch online, makes it Buy 1 Get 1..
I want to get Persona 4, but I have a hard time shelling out $40 for a handheld game. I think they should be $30, and my Vita hasn't been getting much use, I keep neglecting it, been really busy.
Iacobellis
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But it's only used games? Eh...
StarCreator
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Why should a game for a handheld be cheaper?
I haven't bought used games in years... Buy 1 Get 1, shot me over the edge. Can Vita stuff really be messed up used? It's a Box and a game card..
Well.. games ARE cheaper because they are for a handheld. Console releases usually start at 60€ here, and Vita games at 40€.
Nah, he probably was referring to the availability of used games. There wont be Persona 4 used for example
However, do note that some games require online passes, which you need to rebuy online if they already have been used in the retail copy. Usually costs around 10$ more.
The game is usually less than what a console game would be, so it shouldn't be the same Price. $40 is a very good price for Persona 4 and most Vita games, but as I've never played a Persona, my entry mark is lower. The $50 games for Vita, I will never support.
Thus why I chose MGS HD... I haven't played those in a long time, so replaying them shall be fun.
Iacobellis
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Well.. games ARE cheaper because they are for a handheld. Console releases usually start at 60 here, and Vita games at 40.
Nah, he probably was referring to the availability of used games. There wont be Persona 4 used for example
However, do note that some games require online passes, which you need to rebuy online if they already have been used in the retail copy. Usually costs around 10$ more. MK might have one, cant say for certain though.
I just hate buying used games. Used online passes, stickers on the box, etc..
ONLY savegames only work online with +. You can still backup the whole thing though.
Don't buy online pass games used then, and use Goo-Gone for the stickers on the box.
This is a pretty apt description:
If you already know what game it is and liked the original version, you'll like this too. It has 90's game design written all over it, though, so if you never played it, it might not be as polished as you might expect from all the praise its getting.
Still a great game with a great soundtrack.
Iacobellis
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There's a demo for JSR? Where?
StarCreator
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I've never really understood the mentality that games must be less expensive because they're for a handheld platform. If it's a good game, it should be worth good money.
And Persona 4, by all accounts, is a -very- good game.
With countless hours of gameplay as well, so you can't even question the value proposition in this case.
Will buy when they deem me worthy. Never played one before though.
Iacobellis
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Handheld games have lower budgets, and usually don't offer as much content and graphical detail to console counterparts. What you are essentially saying is the $10 iOS games should also be $60.
Yeah, I've played it. Still own JSRF too. Was just curious because I heard there was hitching on the console ones.
Thanks though for the quote. Hard to keep up with the thread sometimes.
Is Call of Duty Black Ops Declassified worth $10 less than Black Ops 2??? no. Should be $30.
Persona 4 is worth $40, but like I have said, I have never played one so my entry point is not full price.
StarCreator
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Again, good games should be worth good money. I don't see where you're going with the iOS argument, and I never said anything about lower budgets (and there's no rule that says handheld games always have lower budgets than other games). I only said I don't understand why handhelds automatically mean games aren't allowed to be expensive.
Eeeeh, I generally agree with your sentiments that if a game is good, it should be worth the money no matter the platform. However, as a rule, usually handheld games indeed have lower budgets, mostly through the focus on less resolution. The higher the resolution, the more expensive the development of almost every game. I mean thats one of the reasons why console games usually cost around 60$, while Vita games cost around 40$.
Why pay $60 for a console experience on a Handheld, when I can get that on my PS3 is the way many interpret it. It's why my vita as been getting less use than usual. Console games drop cheap so quick that I can get the full console quality for cheaper than the half-assed port to Vita.
It's why I usually hate ports to Vita. I want original games that are like Big brother but give me something entirely different. GTA Vice City Stories did this and Assassin's Creed Liberation, etc.
Iacobellis
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Look, no one wants to spend $50 for a Vita game, let alone $60. You're saying that a good game should be worth good money, but a good game is different to everyone. I liked Gravity Rush, but definitely wouldn't spend $60 on it, then around another $10 for the DLC.
Isn't your line of thinking why cross buy exists?
Uncharted being the best selling Vita game disagrees.
Do we have total numbers of every game up to a certain day?
No, but it's been said before that Uncharted was the best selling game.
Maybe that was only for launch(?) but even if it was, the point still stands. People clearly don't mind paying $50 for a Vita game
Cross Buy is limited to a few games it isn't system wide. And it was more for the people that wanted both games for each system. Usually I but a game for the Vita because it's better as a pick up and play game, or better suited as a handheld over a console game. There are exceptions when I like a game, that when I'm gone from home I want to play that same experience on the Vita and Cross Buy helps with that. Do this mostly with sports games, may do it with NFS MW.
I bought that game week 1, for under $40... as did many others, as it was the best game for the system at launch to show what the Vita could do. I wasn't going to pay $50, even if the game was made exclusively for it and to promote it. And I will wait for Declassified to drop in price, as it isn't worth the $50 price tag, if a game was worth $50 it probably would have been Persona 4. I don't want to show that gamers will go for that $50 price point.
Oh yes, I dont disagree, sorry. I was just curious whether we have cumulative sales numbers. I'd be interested in comparing US/EU sales for single games up to now.
Iacobellis
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I should have stated I was speaking for some people here. I have Uncharted and Declassified!
Ok just as an example, Rayman has a way smaller budget than god of war 3,i can get both at $30 why would i only look at the game budgets and not which game looks more interesting to me?I don't mind paying $50 for a game which looks good to me.
WonkyPanda
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Is it me or are the controls in JSR not quite responsive?
On Day 1, you couldn't get both for $30.. one was $30, one was $60...
It's better to look at Rayman and when it came out on Vita, it was available on PS3 for a cheaper price. Many couldn't get it on Vita because it was cheaper on PS3, others thought it was better as a handheld and worth the extra money.
Ok just to get my point across,if i can get AC2 and Uncharted 2 for $60 day one on the PS3 i'm not going to look at the budgets then,i'll just pick the one(if i just have $60) which looks better to me.
I'm going to pick the better game depending on what i want to play at that time.. If I could get Uncharted 2 on Vita for $40 and Uncharted 2 for $60, that's an good difference to look at owning one or the other, looking at if I think it's better suited on the Vita or not.
Whereas if they were both $50.. I would pick the PS3 version every time.
It's why Pokemon has never come to consoles..
Vita needs more games made just for the console, that isn't just like big brother on a smaller screen. Liberation is a very good start in this, completely different games but same gameplay. Give me a reason to get both and not choose between each one. I get my Asscreed fix, without playing the same damn game.
I will elaborate on that a bit later extensively, but omg. No Heroes Allowed is soooo good. WDITDTDTDTDML 1 seems like a demo compared to NHA. I already liked the first game for what it is, but this game is soooooooo good. They added quite a few new mechanics as well. I actually have a hard time justifying to recommend buying WDITDTDTDTDML now that I can compare it to the follow up games.
BUY NO HEROES ALLOWED! (10$)
In addition to all the other good games.
I'd pick the Vita version every time.
BUY NO HEROES ALLOWED! (10$)
In addition to all the other good games.
I'd pick the Vita version every time.
Differing opinions then as it always will be,i personally wouldn't give a damn.If i feel like playing on the vita or the PS3 i'll just buy it on that.
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