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[boredJonathan]

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/NotedNow/Noted_Now.html

which is the point that Cheney made last night and now the democrats are scrambling to spin away from.

Read about two posts up... then go here and see that there have been only 8 open meetings, 4 of which Edwards has been present. The rest are closed and the attendance records are closed for those. These public meetings that Republicans keep harping on don't add up to much more than 'Here's what we have been talking about in these clossed sessions that we can tell you about'. While I agree that it wouldn't have hurt for Edwards to be present, I hardly think it's some knock on him personally that he didn't show up for these 4 days.

 

[Catchpenny]

The people saying that these aren't "meetings" are missing the point, since Cheney said:

"I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session," Cheney said to Edwards. "The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight."

If walking onto the stage for a debate that features no head-to-head discussion is a meeting, so is acknowledging that same person when he sits next to you at a breakfast.

Also, Cheney has been acting President of the Senate a total of two Tuesdays over the past four years. As the LA Times says:

Although Cheney is the Senate's presiding officer, he actually sits in the chamber only on rare occasions, such as to break a tie vote and to swear in new senators.

He does attend the GOP senators' weekly luncheons to discuss party strategy. But only Republicans attend, and Cheney usually breezes into the building, goes to the meeting, then leaves without hobnobbing with Democrats.

In fact, Cheney was teased by Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (news, bio, voting record) (D-Vt.) for only associating with Republicans when, in an encounter on the Senate floor, Cheney cursed at Leahy.

 

[Catchpenny]

Which is why he was called Senator Gone.

Except he wasn't called that in his "hometown paper", but rather in a small weekly paper in Southern Pines. The paper that did make the statement, The Pilot, seems to take issue with Cheney's characterization in this editorial:

“His hometown newspaper has taken to calling him ‘Senator Gone,’” Vice President Richard Cheney said of his Democratic challenger, Sen. John Edwards.

Well, not exactly.

The Pilot hasn’t “taken to calling him” anything. In fact, the vice president’s obscure reference sent us scrambling to our library. And sure enough, we did publish an editorial 15 months ago, on June 25, 2003, headlined, “Edwards Should Do His Day Job.” In it, we noted that Sen. Jesse Helms used to be called “Senator No.” And we added: “Four and a half years into his first term, John Edwards is becoming known as Senator Gone.”

 

[The Chosen One]

Ugh....

Out of all of Cheney's lies in the debate, it's kind of frustrating that everyone is focusing on when he met Edwards. I wish everybody and the press would focus on Cheney lying about the Iraq link to 9/11. That was a clear blatant lie and has more significance. It's the reason why more than 40% of the American public STILL think there's a link between Iraq and 9/11.

But of course the stupid press is focusing on trivial stuff like when Cheney and Edwards really met. Cheney was a genius for making those statements. Instead of answering the tough Halliburton questions, he swings it back on Edwards and now everyone is probing records about when Cheney and Edwards were in the same room together, instead of Cheney having to answer for himself on his lies and deceptions. Disgustingly brilliant.

 

[DarienA]

Except he wasn't called that in his "hometown paper", but rather in a small weekly paper in Southern Pines. The paper that did make the statement, The Pilot, seems to take issue with Cheney's characterization in this editorial:

Catch you should have quoted the next paragraph it's great:

But we also wrote: “Members of the senator’s staff point out that Edwards’ attendance record this year has been better than the three other Democratic senators who are campaigning for president — Joe Lieberman, Richard Gephardt and Bob Graham. And the aides also say none of the votes Edwards missed was close, so his presence on the floor would not have changed the outcome.”

OWNED

 

[MIMIC]

Another lie:

What Cheney said: "Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session."

List of the Senate's Acting Presidents for every Tuesday session since 2001:

2001:

1/30 - Enzi
2/6 - Chafee
2/13 - Chafee
2/27 - Allen
3/6 - Burns
3/13 - Reid
3/20 - DeWine
3/27 - Chafee
4/3 - Smith
4/24 - Chafee
5/1 - Chafee
5/8 - Chafee
5/15 - Frist
5/22 - Chafee
6/5 - Enzi
6/12 - Byrd
6/19 - Carper
6/26 - Bayh
7/10 - Nelson
7/17 - Clinton
7/24 - Byrd
7/31 - Stabenaw
9/25 - Wellstone
10/2 - Clinton
10/9 - Clinton
10/16 - Edwards
10/23- Byrd
10/30 - Bingaman
11/13 - Murray
11/27 - Jeffords
12/4 - Stabenaw
12/11 - Carnahan
12/18 - Nelson

2002:

1/29 - Nelson
2/5 - Kohl
2/12 - Stabenow
2/26 - Landrieu
3/5 - Edwards
3/12 - Landrieu
3/19 - Miller
4/9 - Cleland
4/16 - Reed
4/23 - Wellstone
4/30 - Nelson
5/7 - Miller
5/14 - Cleland
5/21 - Nelson
6/4 - Durbin
6/11 - Corzine
6/18 - Dayton
6/25 - Landrieu
7/9 - Reed
7/16 - Corzine
7/23 - Reed
7/30 - Clinton
9/3 - Reed
9/10 - Corzine
9/17 - Reid
9/24 - Stabenow
10/1 - Miller
10/8 - Miller
10/15 - Reid
11/12 - Cheney
11/19 - Barkley (MN)

2003:

1/7 - Cheney
1/14 - Stevens
1/22 - Stevens
1/28 - Stevens
2/4 - Stevens
2/11 - Stevens
2/25 - Stevens
3/4 - Stevens
3/11 - Stevens
3/18 - Stevens
3/25 - Stevens
4/1 - Stevens
4/8 - Stevens
4/29 - Stevens
5/6 - Talent
5/13 - Ensign
5/20 - Alexander
6/3 - Stevens
6/10 - Stevens
6/18 - Murkowski
6/24 - Coleman
7/8 - Stevens
7/15 - Stevens
7/22 - Chaffee
7/29 - Stevens
9/2 - Stevens
9/9 - Stevens
9/16 - Stevens
9/23 - Stevens
9/30 - Sununu
10/21 - Stevens
10/28 - Stevens
11/4 - Stevens
11/11 - Warner
11/18 - Stevens
12/9 - Stevens

2004:

1/20 - Stevens
1/27 - Enzi
2/3 - Stevens
2/10 - Stevens
3/2 - Stevens
3/9 - Hagel
3/16 - Sununu
3/23 - Stevens
3/30 - Ensign
4/6 - Cornyn
4/20 - Stevens
4/27 - Chambliss
5/4 - Stevens
5/11 - Stevens
5/18 - Stevens
6/1 - Stevens
6/8 - Hutchinson
6/15 - Stevens
6/22 - Allard
7/6 - Burns
7/13 - Stevens
7/20 - Enzi
9/7 - Stevens
9/14 - Chafee
9/21 - Enzi
9/28 - Stevens
10/05 - Stevens

Two Tuesdays within a 4-year span constitutes "most Tuesdays???"

Fuck that bastard.


Oh yeah...

More Cheney/Edwards photos:

 

[FoneBone]

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=272

Cheney got our domain name wrong -- calling us "FactCheck.com" -- and wrongly implied that we had rebutted allegations Edwards was making about what Cheney had done as chief executive officer of Halliburton.

In fact, we did post an article pointing out that Cheney hasn't profited personally while in office from Halliburton's Iraq contracts, as falsely implied by a Kerry TV ad. But Edwards was talking about Cheney's responsibility for earlier Halliburton troubles. And in fact, Edwards was mostly right.

 

[Incognito]

someone fucking ban ripclawe. jesus h christ. i'm about to punch this computer because his replies are out of step with the reality that's RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.

is he taking cues from his master on this sorta game?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Two Tuesdays within a 4-year span constitutes "most Tuesdays???"

To be fair to him, he didn't say he was always acting in that role on Tuesdays, merely that he was "up in the Senate". Clearly that leaves a lot of leeway as to what he's actually doing over there. Enough that it's easier to understand why he wouldn't just be bumping into Edwards much.

 

[Makura]

Ugh....

Out of all of Cheney's lies in the debate, it's kind of frustrating that everyone is focusing on when he met Edwards. I wish everybody and the press would focus on Cheney lying about the Iraq link to 9/11.

Gosh, when will this myth die? Nobody has ever said Iraq was involved in 9/11

 

[Makura]

At school, there are people that go to the same classes as I do every week. I've even sat by some of them. And yet I've only really "met" a handfull of students in my program.

Anyway, didn't Cheney correct himself/apologize? This isn't some conspiracy, he probably just forgot.

 

[DarienA]

At school, there are people that go to the same classes as I do every week. I've even sat by some of them. And yet I've only really "met" a handfull of students in my program.

Anyway, didn't Cheney correct himself/apologize? This isn't some conspiracy, he probably just forgot.

You call Oh Yeah a correction and apology? Unless some new news article came out this evening that I haven't seen that's all I saw earlier today...

 

[Celicar]

I can't believe Cheney lied about meeting Edwards. This really shows what kind of character Cheney has. I'm switching sides. Kerry for president!

 

[shoplifter]

Anyway, didn't Cheney correct himself/apologize? This isn't some conspiracy, he probably just forgot.

Then he needs to publicly acknowledge it. Unfortunately the media is now reaming him on it, so it looks like he lost that opportunity.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

At school, there are people that go to the same classes as I do every week. I've even sat by some of them. And yet I've only really "met" a handfull of students in my program.

A) Did you go through a several-hour breakfast as their neighbor at a table?
B) Looking at "met" so strictly, it'd be perfectly possible for Edwards and Cheney to both be showing up at the Senate all the time and never meet.

Gosh, when will this myth die? Nobody has ever said Iraq was involved in 9/11

They just try to associate them as much as they can, like
"The liberation of Iraq is a crucial advance in the campaign against terror. We've removed an ally of Al Qaeda. ... The battle of Iraq is one victory in a war on terror that began on September the 11, 2001." - Bush on aircraft carrier
"If we're successful in Iraq we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographical base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9/11." - Cheney on "Meet the Press"

 

[MIMIC]

There's a quote of Cheney saying something like, "Some people say that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.....I wouldn't be so sure."

I'm too lazy to try to Google it now, but I'll see if I can find it tomorrow (but I'm sure I'm ringing some bells with a few people).

 

[Error Macro]

He actually met Edwards before? Fuck, I'm voting Kerry.

LOL