Tams
Member
Sorry, missed the 'chipped' bit.
But chipping you ebike is just asking to get fined by a bored copper.
Wales to become first UK nation to drop 30mph speed limit to 20mph
- Thread starter cormack12
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Sorry, missed the 'chipped' bit.
But chipping you ebike is just asking to get fined by a bored copper.
jezhumphrey75
Banned
live in cornwall mate, no coppers about lol, if i had a standard ebike id get it unlocked for sure, but still be sensible on the road.
daffyduck
Member
Dubious.
cormack12
Gold Member
Wales' First Minister Mark Drakeford resigns
Mark Drakeford denies the backlash over 20mph played into his decision to quit.
www.bbc.co.uk
How long before this stupid shit is revoked then?
Trogdor1123
Member
it's happening all over Canada too. It is restricted to residential areas though typically. I'm of two minds on…
Cyberpunkd
Member
How about you don't lane switch like an idiot in a traffic jam thus making it 5x worse?
So this is like 30km/h? It's already the case in Paris.
Mark in 2018: I'll only do five years and then I'll step downWales' First Minister Mark Drakeford resigns
Mark Drakeford denies the backlash over 20mph played into his decision to quit.
How long before this stupid shit is revoked then?
Mark in 2023: I'm stepping down
Labour Wales: THIS IS A COMPLETE SHOCK!
Then again I guess a politician sticking to their word is a shock these days.
Wheeljack539
Member
Meanwhile, in California
Huh, some
sankt-Antonio
Banned
Every city in EU should have a max speed of 20km/h. Then the road should be used for all cars, bikes, scooters. Bike lanes should be converted to green spots, parking or bigger sidewalks. Everyone would benefit. Its madness that cars are the only one's using the vast infrastructure just because they want to go 50km/h.
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Highway Star
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Considering car drivers are the ones who've paid for this infrastructure, then yes cars should be aloud to go faster then pedestrians. Bicyclists are just moving targets to bounce into light posts.
FUBARx89
Member
So, you want, a limit of 12mph? Sure pal.
Go down an absolute storm that would.
In this 12mph world, do cyclists get done for going over the speed limit? Do cyclists get forced to have an licence plate so they can get fucked aswell? Since most cyclists can do more than 12mph.
Or is this just someone lost from r/fuckcars on neogaf?
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Trogdor1123
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sankt-Antonio
Banned
That's just not true, like at all.
If you live in a tightly packed society you have to make a sacrifice. You can still go fast as fuck on the Autobahn or outside cities, inside cities it should be free 4 all on the road.
Would also eliminate deadly accident rates to nearly 0%, EU's "Vision Zero" is only achievable with measures like these.
Well its either a solution like this, or the complete ban of cars in inner cities. I would hate that. There is just not enough room in a lot of "old" cities in EU to implement roads for cars, side walks, parking and bike lanes. Someone will have to give.
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GutsOfThor
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Sammy Hagar is going to be pissed! First he can't drive 55 now this stupid shit!?
StreetsofBeige
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I live in the burbs and support cars 100%. There's hardly any cyclists no matter how many bike lanes they add to roads. And slowing down more and more I dont see helping.
However, when it comes to areas with tons of people like downtown areas where it's gridlock with cars, taxis, delivery vans and bike couriers all trying to share the road, it makes sense to have more bike lanes to alleviate traffic and slower speed limits because you dont want people gunning it in crowded streets where there's tons of jaywalkers and bike couriers zipping around and UPS vans parked half on the street and half on the sidewalk.
For car haters, dont forget that a portion of accidents with pedestrians will be from pedestrians jaywalking or doing dumb shit too running across traffic because they are too impatient to wait at a street light. There's only so many car hits due to speedy drivers hopping a curb or illegally turning into walker right of way.
Having super slow cars in dense areas might even be detrimental. Who knows. Lets face it. When there's cars driving fast, only a small number of walkers or bikers will risk weaving. When cars are gridlock, what happens? Shit loads of walkers all move as a giant mass because they know the cars are stuck or inching at 2 mph, so it's easier to get to the other side. Weve all done it. There's no fear when the cars drive super slow knowing they can effectively brake in time.
However, when it comes to areas with tons of people like downtown areas where it's gridlock with cars, taxis, delivery vans and bike couriers all trying to share the road, it makes sense to have more bike lanes to alleviate traffic and slower speed limits because you dont want people gunning it in crowded streets where there's tons of jaywalkers and bike couriers zipping around and UPS vans parked half on the street and half on the sidewalk.
For car haters, dont forget that a portion of accidents with pedestrians will be from pedestrians jaywalking or doing dumb shit too running across traffic because they are too impatient to wait at a street light. There's only so many car hits due to speedy drivers hopping a curb or illegally turning into walker right of way.
Having super slow cars in dense areas might even be detrimental. Who knows. Lets face it. When there's cars driving fast, only a small number of walkers or bikers will risk weaving. When cars are gridlock, what happens? Shit loads of walkers all move as a giant mass because they know the cars are stuck or inching at 2 mph, so it's easier to get to the other side. Weve all done it. There's no fear when the cars drive super slow knowing they can effectively brake in time.
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