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Walmart’s Out-of-Control Crime Problem Is Driving Police Crazy

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FyreWulff

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Actually one of the few things I liked about Walmart was the old people saying hello. Still not enough to get me in the door of our local store, it is an insane level of trash and lowers my faith in humanity anytime I'd been there.

For some reason, our Target is almost like an upscale department store in comparison so that's where I go, although it's a ghost town most of the time.

Depends on the Wal Mart. Ours has a Store Manager with actual OCD. Fucking thing is spotless

another one in the same area is old, it looks dingy all the time, and management doesn't care about trash pickup
 

jmdajr

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Come to think of it, why does Wal-Mart have so many lanes? Usually they have 2 or 3 cashiers in addition to the self-checkout. About 7 lanes or so are usually closed. I guess they keep them in reserve for holidays but it's a big waste of floor space most of the time.

I go to Walmart neighborhood market occasionally. once I went and they had zero lines open and I had about $200 worth of groceries. I just left the cart. I'm not going to self check $200 worth of groceries. Especially because Walmarts self check machines are some of the worst I've used.

This is why I stopped going to Walmart a few years ago.

Only exception I made was stopping in on while on vacation to get some rain gear and some food, since the area didn't seem to have something like my local Fred Meyers and I didn't want to stop at two places.

And this one time, someone stole my fucking car emblem on my front grille. Came out and it was gone.
MY CAR EMBLEM!
Why?

Just stay away.
 
Man, reading this makes me remember that I went through an odd kleptomaniac teenage phase with my friends where we would constantly steal from big department stores purely for the sport of it. I also remember the time I quit cold turkey, was when I was working at UPS for the summer from college and my friend who also worked there but didn't show up to work one day. The following day he shows up to work with huge scratch marks around his neck and tells me the most embarrassing story how he was arrested from Kroger for stealing deodorant, and then while being confronted, tried to flee where he was then tackled, and struggling to get free, screaming for help until the cops came and handcuffed in front of everybody in broad daylight. LOL
 
Off duty officers have access to police resources when working a different job?

Yeah, I had a friend that was a cop and also worked as a mall security guard. He wore his police uniform with his gun and used a safety pin to pin a mall security patch over the police one.

He said he got paid more by the mall than the police dept. It was a small town though.

Edit: the article said the cop was off duty so I'm assuming he gets paid by walmart.
 
And this one time, someone stole my fucking car emblem on my front grille. Came out and it was gone.
MY CAR EMBLEM!
Why?

Just stay away.

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Did it happen like this?
 

DonMigs85

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Walmart continuing its love for corporate welfare by expecting tax payers to pay for them.

Meanwhile, the walton family owns more wealth than almost half the country.

My mom's friend is actually one of Alice Walton's closest friends. She said she's a nice enough person, but they're EXTREMELY out of touch with the masses and used to their lavish lifestyles. Like most billionaires, sadly.
 
Wow, Walmart USA seems like a wasteland compared to Walmart Canada, which is pretty much like any other middle-class supermarket.

It's no different than anything else, it just depends on the neighborhood the store you visit is in. Walmart in a nice neighborhood? It will be nice. Walmart in the ghetto? It likely won't be nice. That goes for every business though. I've never seen a "trashy" Target, but that's just because I've never seen a Target in a bad neighborhood.

Door greeters weren't gone for very long. They came back, but they're gone again. Now they have actual asset protection associates standing at the doors.
 

TheJLC

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Off duty officers have access to police resources when working a different job?

Yes a Police Officer, when exercising their police powers, are the police whether they work security or as a uniformed police officer . They just don't get paid by the municipality they work for when off-duty.

Our local Walmart have greeters and armed off-duty police officers working. They have other security guards on the parking lots and loss prevention inside monitoring cameras. Funny thing is that most of the people that get arrested there have been caught multiple times for shoplifting at the same or different Walmart. So, as soon as they walk in, they have cameras monitoring their every move and names already available for the officers to put on signed complaints.
 
It sucks because WalMart is basically the end game of capitalism -- One massive entity that sells everything and beats out everyone's price. Why would you shop anywhere else?
 
Actually one of the few things I liked about Walmart was the old people saying hello. Still not enough to get me in the door of our local store, it is an insane level of trash and lowers my faith in humanity anytime I'd been there.

For some reason, our Target is almost like an upscale department store in comparison so that's where I go, although it's a ghost town most of the time.

As someone working for Walmart. The issue with Walmart is theres too many goddamned stores.A lot of "problem stores" get neglected and go down hill. Market Manager and Corporate would rather focus on the actual stores that are doing good and not falling apart. My market has 12 walmarts and we're small. A third of which are terrible shit Walmarts located off highways and full of crime.

Amazing how we always hear a new horror story from X store down the road, or Y store up the road.
 
It sucks because WalMart is basically the end game of capitalism -- One massive entity that sells everything and beats out everyone's price. Why would you shop anywhere else?

I'll pay more for a better experience. Thus why I shop locally and at Whole Foods for my groceries.

Walmart might be a few cents cheaper, but it makes me feel like shit, and supporting the company is a morally questionable choice. I understand why shopping there is a necessity for aimed but I certainly don't take for granted the fact that I don't have to.
 

Stasis

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I'm always kind of in awe when I see all the shit going down at US Walmarts. Never see anything like this at our clean and modern superstores in the Montreal suburbs. We still have greeters too!

I don't go frequently, even though one is really close to us (took over from a failed Target when they bailed out of Canada, sadly) but there are some great deals for day to day items we may need quickly. I'd rather not support them in general, though it's not like Target and Amazon are much better. We have Canadian Tire I guess!

I worked at the Walmart layaway counter when I was 17. My second job ever! Lasted 6 months. It was horrible. But even then, I witnessed ONE shoplift event when I was there and nothing major ever occurred nor did any of the employees mention any having ever occurred. All I saw was a woman ride a bike out, past the greeter, the manager and I chased her in my car. It was amazing.
 

Kenstar

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The prices are good because of their predatory business practices that have ruined countless family owned businesses.

Their prices aren't because of them pushing small business out, their prices are the very things that PUSH small business's out

You can't compete with the volume+exposure discount that thousands of wal-mart stores can get. Who will get the better price: Small business buying 100 Barbie dolls or Walmart buying 5 Million?
 

br3wnor

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I tend to stick to Target and have been to Wal-Mart maybe 5 times total in the past 10 years. Not that Target is a benevolent company, but at least most of the workers there don't look suicidal. I always feel icky leaving a Wal-Mart.
 
Also keep in mind that Walmart's very existence tends to cause damage to businesses in the area. I'm not expressly anti-competitive, but the stranglehold they have on their suppliers means that nobody CAN compete without a similar stranglehold or at least economies of scale T hen, they'll hire a large number of people, but provide strange and/or inconsistent hours. This, when coupled with the tendency for businesses to get schedules out extremely late, makes it difficult to find AND hold a second job...without losing the first. There aren't laws protecting people from poor management and the consequences thereof -- If your schedule for one job relies on the schedule for the other, you need o know it well BEFORE the week of.

And then, the pay is also pretty garbage. Much of the shopping is done at Walmart, businesses in the same vein cant' compete, and with fewer businesses comes fewer numbers of people purchasing products locally. Of course, if you work at Walmart, you'll also shop at Walmart because...what choice do you have, really?

Lastly, property taxes are waived or decreased dramatically for Walmart in a way that other businesses do not get. With fewer successful businesses, there tend to be fewer homeowners, fewer taxpayers, and less money, all told, going to districts that need it. Schools, roads, services? We don't need those, we have a Walmart!

So now you're barely educated -- if that -- you can't much find a job anyway outside of Walmart, Walmart will give you 15 hours a week, which isn't enough to pay rent with three roommates, yet alone...alone, and your already sour mood is worsened by the rattle of your undercarriage because the potholes in the road (when the hell is the city going to fix those, anyway) have caused irreparable damage to your car(but it's not like you can just buy a new one, you're lucky to have THIS). So you're down to your last twenty cents until pay day (six days from now) and suddenly the cut-with-corn-husks beef (that costs about the same as better quality beef elsewhere -- not that they need to sell it for less because why should they) look pretty ripe for the taking.

You are caught, of course, by the cop who gets paid more by Walmart than the city you live in, and get sent to jail. You're an indigent, after all, so you'll only have to wait 8 months there for a public defender.

At least you'll eat three meals a day until then.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
They opened a Walmart near my neighborhood a couple of months ago. It is right across the freeway from a HEB (local grocery chain). I continue to go to HEB for my groceries, but if I need a non-food item I will hit up Walmart. The closest non-grocery store is over 10 miles away. Many residents weren't pleased when they started building the store. We will see if it turns into a crime magnet.

I was really amazed that even though the store is brand new, it looked so...aged. I guess I expected to be a bit more modern because it is a brand new store. But it looks pretty much the same as the rest of the newish ones. They have greeters there as well as free lemonade when you walk in the door though.
 
Know what's horrible? The Walmart out on the east side of my city is referred to as Ghetto-Mart. In fact, it's referred to as that so much that the top definition for Ghetto-Mart on urban dictionary is the location of that store. This is why I shop at Wegmans and Aldi's
 

U2NUMB

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I remember years ago my brother was the manager of a couple departments at a Walmart in Plano Texas. The stories he would tell of shopping carts packed full being pushed out the emergency doors into a waiting car or truck.

And of course they were told if you step in to stop it in any way you would be fired. While I agree it's certainly the policies of Walmart that open them up to this at this scale people are still selfish fucks for stealing.

So I shall stay on team target... They might not be perfect but I certainly enjoy the shopping experience far more than Walmart.
 

jstripes

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OK WE GET IT EVERYTHING IS BETTER AND LESS TRASHY IN CANADA THAN AMERICA OK JUST GIVE US A FUCKING BREAK

It's true, though.

Walmart in Canada is more like Target in the US in terms of cleanliness and clientele. As someone who's been to Walmarts in several states, yours are a dystopian wasteland.
 
It's true, though.

Walmart in Canada is more like Target in the US in terms of cleanliness and clientele. As someone who's been to Walmarts in several states, yours are a dystopian wasteland.

Well, I've seen your Targets, so you don't have any place to talk. :p
 

kess

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Figures. Wal-Mart is literally a broken window on the American landscape. Long lines, ugly stores, bad lighting, horrible policies... total Shitsville.
 
We no have targets anymore.

Exactly.

But we can't get rid of the Walmarts, because they're literally the only thing keeping many places together. Ghost towns, except for Walmart, white namesake glaring through the night, towering above the peons that deign to live -- if you can call it living, anymore.
 

old

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I'm surprised they even bother to stop or catch shoplifters.

When I worked retail many moons ago we were always told to let them go and under no circumstances should we ever touch them or accuse them of stealing, (both could lead to lawsuits).
 

jstripes

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Canada warmly welcomed Target, and Target immediately shit its pants, fired a gun into its own foot, slipped on a banana peel, and fell into an open manhole.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/the-last-days-of-target-canada/

But we can't get rid of the Walmarts, because they're literally the only thing keeping many places together. Ghost towns, except for Walmart, white namesake glaring through the night, towering above the peons that deign to live -- if you can call it living, anymore.
That's a combination of Walmart's penny-pinching and America's rapid socioeconomic decline.
 

Curler

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Wow, Walmart USA seems like a wasteland compared to Walmart Canada, which is pretty much like any other middle-class supermarket.

Shopping in Walmart Canada is like shopping at a (US) Target. People are actually friendly there too and don't look like they hate their lives! Locally, there's like the grumpiest people ever that don't give a crap about anything.


Like to know my experiences of how Walmart 'embraced' the e-commerce market? Oh great Black Friday deal! Pick up in store to save shipping? Ok! Wait... it's the holidays and there's a big long line here... oh, they took the old Walmart greeter and stuck him on the register?! (Honestly, I felt bad, because they were giving him a hard time processing orders and he didn't seem well trained for computer-stuff :/) -20 mins...

Oh look! No line! Time to do another pickup because the deal was just too good! Wait... no one's here? I'll just ring the bell for service. -10 mins. I'll try again? -another 10 mins. Ok, time to grab someone to ask. "Excuse me, can someone help? I've been sitting here for like 20 mins?" "Oh go ask the electronics guy if no one comes". *walks into back room and starts talking on his phone* So I go to the electronics guy. "Uhhh can someone help me?" (By this time, another person has been waiting for their order). "Oh yeah let me call someone". After a full 30 mins, I got my freakin order. I can't put myself through that again. Awful.
 

hobozero

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It's a shitty place, but I am not sure about the comments that Walmart is outsourcing it's security to the police. Yeah, they should have some (or more) security precence on site, but when someone breaks the law, that has to involve the police at some point, right? I mean, what's the alternative, empowering Walmart to make arrests?

I know people think American cops are bad, but imagine what an armed Walmart police force would be like.

Although private cops gets us one step closer to OCP and that gets us one step closer to Robocop. Hmm...
 
Almost every time I go to Wally people are constantly setting off the security scanners and no one bothers to check if they're stealing anything. Sometime there is an employee there but he doesn't give a shit and just seems to ignore it.
 
People shouldn't steal and police should be involved in handling them. But if it happens that much, something must be updated in your store. Bring in more people to watch and help, make it more attractive and open, and don't have a way to carry a damn microwave outside easily.
 

jstripes

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It's a shitty place, but I am not sure about the comments that Walmart is outsourcing it's security to the police. Yeah, they should have some (or more) security precence on site, but when someone breaks the law, that has to involve the police at some point, right? I mean, what's the alternative, empowering Walmart to make arrests?

How most stores work: Security detains shoplifter, call police, and the police come and make the arrest if needed.

Where the "outsourcing" rhetoric comes from is that this location, and others, seemingly need a taxpayer-funded officer on duty full-time to supplement their security.
 

Dishwalla

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Wow, Walmart USA seems like a wasteland compared to Walmart Canada, which is pretty much like any other middle-class supermarket.

Ohoh no, Walmarts here may be dumps but they aren't wastelands, the damned things are always full of people.

Hate Walmart because it's hard to find what I'm looking for, either they just don't have it or they have low stock. Prefer Target, have had a better time getting what I want there.
 

Cuburt

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Pretty crazy but now that they mention it, the lack of greeters, lack of cashiers, and self check out make the store seem almost like no one is working there the times I've been there.

In that way, it doesn't seem so surprising that for a store like this people decided to take advantage of that.
 

fuzzyset

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Isn't this essentially victim blaming? I understand Walmart isn't the greatest corporation in the world, but shouldn't Tulsa's (apparent) crime problem be driving police crazy?
 
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