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WaPo: Obama’s secret struggle to punish Russia for Putin’s election assault

Raven117

Member
Exactly.

You're talking about the CIA informing the president that an autocratic foreign country is trying to interfere with the very basis of your government -- democracy.

If you're not going to do something about that, then what do you act on? What issue could possibly be more important or more consequential than the democratic foundation of your government?

And, obviously whatever choice Obama made was the wrong one here. Clinton would have been projected to win by 10 points in CNN's poll average at this stage in the election. And from that point, the point at which then president was informed about Russian meddling in the American election system, polls basically zeroed out to 1 or 2% for Clinton, she of course lost, pro-Putin Trump was elected, filled his cabinet with Pro-Russian cronies, and will likely veto House legislation sanctioning Russia, Russia is threatening to shoot down American air force pilots. In conjunction with Oliver Stone launching his Putin propaganda film this week, Megyn Kelly getting resoundingly embarrassed by him 2 weeks ago, nothing could have possibly played out any better for Putin and any worse for the American people.

This. Putin got a perfect storm of idiocracy from America and his interference with American elections could not have come at a more perfect time for him.
 

Harp

Member
Why are people so shocked elections get tampered with? Isn't that the very reason we created the CIA? Until something shows that actual votes were changed. Its no different then the "Russians are coming" or tuff on crime bullshit that have been effecting elections for decades.
 

pushbyte

Neo Member
Gonna post this here for now. I don't think it's worthy of a new thread quite yet, but there's a track record with John that doesn't exist with other IC connected presences.

tick tick tick

https://twitter.com/20committee/status/879356472437735424
https://twitter.com/20committee/status/879356860196892673

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Heh, the fact that Schindler is CCing Claude Taylor should say everything you need to know about the accuracy of that comment.
 
Why are people so shocked elections get tampered with? Isn't that the very reason we created the CIA? Until something shows that actual votes were changed. Its no different then the "Russians are coming" or tuff on crime bullshit that have been effecting elections for decades.

^^^ Did not read the article.
 
my brain hurts

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Magwik

Banned
Dude is on the roll today.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/879323238425395200
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/879324620159160322



She asked him to call it matter instead of investigation. Meaningless rebrand that no one fell for.

This set of tweets and yesterday's confirms it for me. He or someone in the White House, is trying to legitimize an angle that the dems colluded for the election. Same shit they did with the unmasking.
The reason for this angle is that concrete or solid enough proof is coming that has the Trump campaign colluding with someone, probably Russia, to win the election.
 

Ether_Snake

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my brain hurts

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This is like the Comey tape thing. Trump will always seek to preemptively accuse his opponents of what he thinks he will be accused of. He thought Comey had tapes, so he said HE had tapes to make the claim first.
 

MIMIC

Banned
I find it fascinating that Trump said that he "just found out" about how Obama wasn't more forceful on this whole Russia thing. Didn't we know this last year?
 

Zolo

Member
I find it fascinating that Trump said that he "just found out" about how Obama wasn't more forceful on this whole Russia thing. Didn't we know this last year?

He was denying it until around January and then never commented on it til recently.
 

pushbyte

Neo Member
Benjamin Wittes at it again:

Benjamin Wittes said:
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879335791083782146

Benjamin Wittes said:
3 things:
1) Not all ticks are related to Comey.
2) Fuse length remains uncertain.
3) Interesting preemptive defense of collusion happening.

https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879341731493400580

Point 3's implication that the Whitehouse is pre-empting some news about collusion is interesting and may point to the contents of the coming article. Wittes has been the only reliable Twitter predictor of bombshell stories, but there were a few stories whose revelations, while meaningful, were somewhat overhyped with his "tick tick tick" tweets. I have a feeling it will be an interesting week.
 

Deepwater

Member
I think it went above optics in this situation. You're talking about a sitting president accusing the other party's candidate of collusion with a hostile power months away from the upcoming election. There's repercussions to that which would likely be far worse then trusting in the polling and letting Hillary quietly handle Russia once she won.

it can't possibly be worse than our current situation
 
Putin is too smart for Obama, he completely outplayed him

It's easy when you're an autocrat who abolishes term limits and disbands your own congress. Meanwhile, Russian quality of life has dropped to the lowest of the BRIC nations, and behind countries like Mexico, Turkey, and Serbia, while the quality of life of similar countries rockets past.
 

Zolo

Member
It's easy when you're an autocrat who abolishes term limits and disbands your own congress. Meanwhile, Russian quality of life has dropped to the lowest of the BRIC nations, and behind countries like Mexico, Turkey, and Serbia, while the quality of life of similar countries rockets past.

A preview of what happens in the US if Republicans can get away with it.
 

antonz

Member
Whatever Witte has knowledge of seems to be hitting buttons because people like Hannity went on the offensive this morning etc. and they pretty much never say anything but they were directly attacking Witte, and going hard on the whole democrats collusion crap that trump is trying to push
 

CommanderBuck

Neo Member
Benjamin Wittes at it again:



https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879335791083782146



https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879341731493400580

Point 3's implication that the Whitehouse is pre-empting some news about collusion is interesting and may point to the contents of the coming article. Wittes has been the only reliable Twitter predictor of bombshell stories, but there were a few stories whose revelations, while meaningful, were somewhat overhyped with his "tick tick tick" tweets. I have a feeling it will be an interesting week.
Totally agree. I think point three is the most interesting part. I think they know what's coming.
 
Benjamin Wittes at it again:



https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879335791083782146



https://twitter.com/benjaminwittes/status/879341731493400580

Point 3's implication that the Whitehouse is pre-empting some news about collusion is interesting and may point to the contents of the coming article. Wittes has been the only reliable Twitter predictor of bombshell stories, but there were a few stories whose revelations, while meaningful, were somewhat overhyped with his "tick tick tick" tweets. I have a feeling it will be an interesting week.

Hannity trying to be a bitch in here as well.
 

RaidenZR

Member
my brain hurts

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The decorum of the Presidency is so fucking shot at this point. Trump has ensured that in the eyes of the world there is zero fucking prestige in the role and title.

Obama could have rattled out an endless amount of terrible (and true) things about this asshole when Trump was just a candidate and President Elect, but instead he had the self-restraint and decency to make the transition a focus, and give Trump the benefit of the doubt by making it as smooth as possible.
 
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