Um, what? He was offered to direct this
Ah, that's what I get for not reading the entire thread, I read the title and quickly thought they wanted him to star in it.
Um, what? He was offered to direct this
He's most certainly going to be involved in the script. DC is going to use the same strategy Marvel did with Whedon. Despite Smith's recent slew of shitty movies, fans will go apeshit if he's attached to script the JLA movie. He has a lot of good will.
They have to re-establish Batman because people are going to immediately Associate Nolan's Batman with the movie. They need to ease people into the idea of a new Batman, they can't just throw him into a huge blockbuster film with a bevy of other big superheroes and expect them to be able to latch onto him.They don't need to do any of this to make a Justice League film work.
Everyone knows who Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman are. They need to spend time establishing individual franchises for each of these characters when they've already had plenty of universal exposure.
How? Batman is DC's ONLY major movie franchise. If they want the Justice League to be successful, they need to build it around Batman like the Avengers was built around Iron Man. They can't build it around Nolan's Batman because it doesn't fit, so the new trilogy is being made to help accommodate the Justice League film.Again, stop tying this into the new Batman movies. This has nothing to do with the new Batman films. Also, they may have learned a lot from Green Lantern.
Just give it to the guys who ran your animated stuff for ten years. Stop screwing around. Dini/Timm live action, let's do it.
They have to re-establish Batman because people are going to immediately Associate Nolan's Batman with the movie. They need to ease people into the idea of a new Batman, they can't just throw him into a huge blockbuster film with a bevy of other big superheroes and expect them to be able to latch onto him.
They also have zero history of making a successful Superman or Superwoman film, putting all their eggs in that one basket is stupid, and will more likely fail than succeed.
Who cares about universal exposure, sure we all know who these characters are, but none of us are at all familiar with these specific adaptation of these characters. Just because they possess the same name, doesn't mean they're the same character.
It's like saying there isn't a difference between Burton's Batman and Nolan's Batman.
They don't need to establish Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman IMO. They are universally known characters.
The demographic for a Justice League film would be the aged 15-30 crowd. Wonder Woman hasn't been in a live-action project since before these people were born.
I honest don't know much about Wonder Woman either. She's an Amazon? Or an alien? Or an alien amazon? She has a lasso of truth and an invisible jet. And that's pretty much it.
I never understood why they've never gone in this direction. Also why does it have to be live action? Why not insanely high quality animation or CGI with the DC animation department/people in charge?
An interesting choice. Affleck's shown himself to be a solid director.
Also, he happens to be good friends with someone who he could consult with...
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Remember when Kevin Smith had Batman piss himself? Good times.
Affleck is a good choice but I'm mixed on Smith these days. He needs to distance himself from the fandom and start focusing on his work.
The demographic for a Justice League film would be the aged 15-30 crowd. Wonder Woman hasn't been in a live-action project since before these people were born.
I honest don't know much about Wonder Woman either. She's an Amazon? Or an alien? Or an alien amazon? She has a lasso of truth and an invisible jet. And that's pretty much it.
Affleck is actually a good director, going by Gone baby gone and The Town. I mean I know it's funny because he's Ben Affleck but is it any crazier than the chubby guy from Swingers directing Iron Man? The stange thing is the tone of Affleck's movies is gritty and realistic. Could they be planning on continuing the Nolan verse and Man of Steel style into Justice League? How ballsy (or dumb?) would it be to haveWarning DKR spoiler do not clickJGL/Blake as Batman in this movie?
Anyway, the key for this is going to be the script. Affleck is a competent enough director if the script is good.
Remember when Kevin Smith had Batman piss himself? Good times.
Yeah I have no clue as to way they just don't do this.
Remember when Smith took 3 years to right 5 issues of a Spiderman story that revolved around rape?
Because different mediums aren't 100% cross-compatible?
The Avengers had the benefit of all the other movies coming out already so they didn't have to spend a lot of time on introducing the characters, the Justice League movie won't have that benefit. People know Batman, Superman and maybe Wonder Woman, but what about the other characters? I'm assuming the movie will be based on the new continuity of the DC comics so that means they'll have Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg as well. That's a lot of characters they'll have to introduce especially if they want to include their origins.
Affleck is a good choice but I'm mixed on Smith these days. He needs to distance himself from the fandom and start focusing on his work.
The Avengers had the benefit of all the other movies coming out already so they didn't have to spend a lot of time on introducing the characters, the Justice League movie won't have that benefit. People know Batman, Superman and maybe Wonder Woman, but what about the other characters? I'm assuming the movie will be based on the new continuity of the DC comics so that means they'll have Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg as well. That's a lot of characters they'll have to introduce especially if they want to include their origins.
The new Superman film comes out next year, and that's their big test. If that flops, then the Justice League would be DOA.Will they get Cavill play superman here? Because the time lines will get really messy... lol
but if they do a justice league movie, I don't think they'll do a lot of origin... because by the time JL forms, everyone should already be a part of the universe.
That said, I don't think it's a good idea... yet. Start smaller - maybe a Batman Superman film first?
The Avengers had the benefit of all the other movies coming out already so they didn't have to spend a lot of time on introducing the characters, the Justice League movie won't have that benefit. People know Batman, Superman and maybe Wonder Woman, but what about the other characters? I'm assuming the movie will be based on the new continuity of the DC comics so that means they'll have Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg as well. That's a lot of characters they'll have to introduce especially if they want to include their origins.
The new Superman film comes out next year, and that's their big test. If that flops, then the Justice League would be DOA.
Their second test will be the success of the new Batman trilogy. If they can establish those two films correctly, then I can see people going to the Justice League just based on those two characters.
Most people had no idea what the Avengers was up until a few years, and I'd be willing to bet there's a good number of people who saw The Avengers this summer while being totally oblivious to the rest of the MCU. I don't think this is as big an issue as people make it out to be.
The Batman in the Justice League won't be Nolan's Batman. That's a given. So they need a new Batman. If they make a new Batman for the Justice League, what's the point of not having him tie into the new Batman trilogy/reboot? The Justice League Batman will almost definitely be the reboot Batman, and following the high of the Nolan series, they would have to put a lot of effort into making him live up to that bar.:lol, why do you keep saying new Batman trilogy? WB has talked about rebooting Batman eventually but who said anything about another trilogy, especially doing it before Justice League?
I'm kinda confused -- don't they need to like, establish these characters before throwing them all in a movie together?
The Batman in the Justice League won't be Nolan's Batman. That's a given. So they need a new Batman. If they make a new Batman for the Justice League, what's the point of not having him tie into the new Batman trilogy/reboot? The Justice League Batman will almost definitely be the reboot Batman, and following the high of the Nolan series, they would have to put a lot of effort into making him live up to that bar..
Plus, the new Batman won't be as realistic as Nolan's Batman. Probably, won't be as dark and gritty as well.
Plus, the new Batman won't be as realistic as Nolan's Batman. Probably, won't be as dark and gritty as well.
Watching the Man of Steel trailer, I think it's more likely the next Batman movie is as dark and gritty as Nolan's.
I do agree that Man of Steel is a top priority for them, that's a no brainer, but I do think they have to be thinking of a trilogy for the Batman Reboot. That franchise is too lucrative and successful for them to not think long term. I doubt it'll be marketed as a trilogy, but internally, it will definitely be developed with a trilogy in mind.You are beyond early on this. That is like saying Green Lantern was a planned trilogy but look how that has turned out.
WB and DC need to get Man of Steel to work. They need to have Superman work first before they even consider a JC movie, IMO.
It's not so much the grittiness that's the issue but the realism. Superman would completely ruin Nolan's Batman universe.Watching the Man of Steel trailer, I think it's more likely the next Batman movie is as dark and gritty as Nolan's.
Plus, the new Batman won't be as realistic as Nolan's Batman. Probably, won't be as dark and gritty as well.