that's a good point. Though I'd say that only pertains more to the post-BvS films already shooting (which, unfortunately for WB, spans from SS to JL). I think that given Flash and Aquaman were still being written in the wake of the BvS, there's a better chance to fundamentally rework those movies than there is of salvaging something in post.
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Warner Bros Producers Stand by Zack Snyder, Also Weigh in on DC Comics slate
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that's a good point. Though I'd say that only pertains more to the post-BvS films already shooting (which, unfortunately for WB, spans from SS to JL). I think that given Flash and Aquaman were still being written in the wake of the BvS, there's a better chance to fundamentally rework those movies than there is of salvaging something in post.
IonicSnake
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Speaking of Snyder, he posted Aquaman with a guitar on his twitter. 
Speaking of Snyder, he posted Aquaman with a guitar on his twitter.
He should post a picture of Aquaman being useful.
Dash_Riprock
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Speaking of Snyder, he posted Aquaman with a guitar on his twitter.
Enough with the grim dark muted colors already!
/dead.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Aquaman's outfit looks so... boring.
BoosterDuck
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if WB stands by Zack Snyder, then my wallet stands by me
and the MCU
Discotheque
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i think they need to drop the scale armor on his arms tbh. momoa is a beast, let him flex.
MisterHero
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A few months back I suggested that Snyder would direct the shit out of MARVELS and I stand by that. With the arguable exception of color saturation, Watchmen, MoS and BvS are full of shots that could be lifted from an Alex Ross composition. Heck I'm pretty sure the DC movies do homage his work. I'd post pics but I'm on mobile. Well, I'll concede he probably needs Larry Fong.
Someone might say "So, anyone better than Snyder can copy a comic book panel and edit it better." I don't know any director who HAS, though.
Someone might say "So, anyone better than Snyder can copy a comic book panel and edit it better." I don't know any director who HAS, though.
Discotheque
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opening of BvS gets across the MARVELS idea so well. regardless of how the movie turned out that's one of my favorite scenes of the genre easily.
and yeah the shot of superman above the hurricane victims is straight up alex ross composition brought to life.
Galactic Specter
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I'm starting to think Snyder is blackmailing some WB executives so he'd keep getting chances directing their tentpole movies.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Yeah, it reminds me of the Thor armoured sleeves except not executed very well.
MisterHero
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BvS beginning is also the beginning of Kingdom Come. Replace Norman McKay protecting a little girl with Bruce Wayne and Clark with the rampaging metahumans.
Discotheque
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i like the texture of this more though. it looks like sea-weed lol. appropriate considering the character. but yeah, show them biceps.
George Oscar Bluth II
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I prefer those in a way since they actually have colour
I actually don't like the Thor sleeves at all really. The texture is good but the Snyder's trademark muted colours make it seem very bland. Should make it a slightly brighter green. I agree, he should definitely show biceps (same goes for Thor). He'll be more physically imposing which is what I want to see.
Can we hide this picture from Snyder? I'm pretty sure all he'd walk away with is "Zombie Aquaman" and "chain his spear to his dick so he can stab people with his dick"
ElMexiMerican
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Considering they've distributed 99% of his films, and only two of them have received a positive critical reception and then only a few have done at/above box office expectations, I'd say so.
This would seem terrible if Snyder had done more than 6 movies.
MisterHero
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But Geoff Johns created the puking red lanterns and a baby eating yellow lantern. He's bringing back "hope" to DC now
He also created Rebirth
the blue one always been my favorite
ElMexiMerican
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Very true. It's not that his record is terrible, it's just very middling. I suppose you could say he's WB's safest choice.
Speaking of Snyder, he posted Aquaman with a guitar on his twitter.
I honestly prefer shirtless Aquaman but this is good too I guess.
I think the main problem with Snyder is that he considers himself a director of comic book movies rather that superhero movies. He's too focused on adapting the medium of the source material rather than the stories told within that medium. It would be stupid if a movie studio had one director they gave all of their novel adaptations to, right? That's what WB is doing with Snyder.
Top 5 worst superhero movies of all time? Ayyy!
No, not really. Michael Bay is safe. His Transformers movies are average at best but they still make banks. Snyder's movies are mostly terrible and failed to make good money.
LegendofDragoonLives
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The trailer makes me less and less excited for the new movie. The problem was not jokes or lighter tone from BvS. This looks like it's heading towards Marvel's generic road which makes me care less for both universes. :/
It's not even in the bottom ten superhero films.
Fantastic 4 (2015)
Batman & Robin
Green Lantern
Catwoman
Steel
BvS
Superman IV
Ghost Rider
Ghost Rider 2
Electra
It's up there for me.
RBelong2Us
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7 movies.
From 2009 on he has not had a movie that has looked at as successful. Either disappointments or bombs.
Seems like a pretty long chain to me.
So I'm guessing you haven't seen Howard The Duck, Superman IV, 70s Captain America, 70s Doctor Strange, Supergirl, 90s Captain Ameruca, Spawn, Jonah Hex...
RBelong2Us
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but seriously before the new DC universe took place Snyder had 3 complete failures in a row.
Watchmen, Owl movie, and Sucker Punch.
Who gets rewarded with huge franchises for that?
Watchmen, Owl movie, and Sucker Punch.
Who gets rewarded with huge franchises for that?
Yea, they're untouched in lighting and composition in the superhero genre. From another forum where they converted them to black and white:
He didn't "get rewarded", he put money of his own (and wife's) pocked to make them happen.
Discotheque
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yoooo dat black and white shot of bruce wayne at the mausoleum. spitting image of gregory peck there. removing the color does wonders for little comparisons like that. so good.
There's a shot in BvS of Batman watching Supes and WW that is really, really stunning. I wish all superhero films would strive for breathtaking shots.
Man of Steel was in 2013 and that made a lot of money. People forget it made back most of its budget before it even released so that 668 million was nearly all profit. It also sits on the favorable side of RT with over half the critics recommending it. Something like 17th highest selling blu-ray of all time as well. BvS may not have made what the studio wanted but it still brought in over $800 million which is nothing to sneeze at.
RBelong2Us
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made back its budget before released? are we talking merchandise? which has absolutely nothing to do with the movie and its dissapointing box office reciepts.
I agree, Snyder needs to get dropped fast after Justice League. Everything else looks pretty good in DC's slate (WW, Aqua etc). They have a huge roster to work with.
When a film starring Supes, Bats and Wonder Woman struggled to break even (the ballpark figure for that is 800-900 mil if I recall) I'd say that is something to sneeze at.
Marketing deals. I don't think merchandise for MoS was very high but I don't know for sure. But since when is almost $700 million considered disappointing? Out of 4 movies Snyder has done since 2009 two of them did over half a billion. Why that's being spun as a bad thing confuses the hell out of me.
SonicMegaDrive
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It's definitely in mine.
RBelong2Us
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Because those are supposed to be insanely huge franchises that fell below expectations?
The budget of both are over 200m...mixed with marketing budget that normally falls in line with the movies budget which would put both films over 400m in cost...yeah, those arent good numbers.
Saint Gregory
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As much as I've disliked the DCEU so far I think that this is the only call WB can make. They're committed at this point to this vision and standing by Snyder will buy them a lot of goodwill in the creative community.
Snyder really isn't the problem, he's making the kind of films and creative decisions that anyone who's followed his career would have predicted. The issue is actually with the executives that made the decision to hire him in the first place so unless they're planning of firing themselves throwing Snyder under the bus doesn't solve anything. They're clearly not competent enough to find a better visionary director to salvage this mess.
Snyder really isn't the problem, he's making the kind of films and creative decisions that anyone who's followed his career would have predicted. The issue is actually with the executives that made the decision to hire him in the first place so unless they're planning of firing themselves throwing Snyder under the bus doesn't solve anything. They're clearly not competent enough to find a better visionary director to salvage this mess.
ElMexiMerican
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That just made me wonder what a Michael Bay DCU would look like...
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