Not that I saw, just briefly. And this thread is kinda dead at 8 pages
but hopefully there will be more to this story.
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Washington Post: Secret meeting held to establish Trump-Putin back channel
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but hopefully there will be more to this story.Top of the page on the Washington Post website this morning, with a fair amount of information I haven't seen yet.
shadowsdarknes
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Depends on how you define "nothing".
If Trump isn't removed from office or major parts of his administration are not charged or removed, then what good is it?
Damaged political capital isn't what I want to see here. Trump as a lame duck is still terrible for the world.
It's good to have the Republican majority tied to a candidate that is widely regarded as corrupt or invalid. It boxes them in, and creates a barrier to getting anything done.
There's too much on the line for that to be the only results. I'm sure we're both hoping for the same thing, but I will not be satisfied with no change in the current administration
I'm responding specifically to the "what good is it?" above.
Even if Trump somehow weathers the storm. I'd much rather have a a Trump President embroiled in scandal, unpopular with voters, and seen as untrustworthy by politicians in his own party.
If for no other reason then it will keep him distracted.
Not that I saw, just briefly. And this thread is kinda dead at 8 pages
If Eric Prince was a racist youtube star we'd be at 60 pages.
Wish I was exaggerating.
Angelus Errare
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If any youtube celebrity was racist we'd be at 60 pages.
"don't think he's really a racist, I think when he called Beyonce the n word he was being post ironic and just because he's friends with David Duke doesn't mean he believes the same stuff. You guys should watch his old videos about doing funny graft and crazy deals in Iraq. He's just being controversial to get clicks"
I sort of wonder if it's a bit of trump story burn out.
It's like every day another Russia story comes out.
And people come in here and say I'M SHOCKED sarcastically and then move on.
I feel like people will pay less and less attention until the fire drops and there is serious GOP discussion about impeachment.
This is a bad thing of course. The more vocal and upset people are about this shit show of an administration the more likely it is the GOP will actually do something.
If the widespread attitude is, "who cares, this is nothing" that's a problem.
That's exactly what the Russians and the GOP want so nothing happens to trump.
King Tubby
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I think it's more that people more or less see the writing on the wall and are waiting to see what happens on an official level. I pay attention to the leaks like this but what really grabs my interest is what happens in terms of the House and Senate investigations.
theclosetfan
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This is a huge story, but it's also a case of 'what do we do with this information?" It's a piece of a larger puzzle we're only beginning to see the pieces of.
It doesn't have the urgency of the Flynn immunity deal, which was a spark amidst all the smoke.
The lack of any Congressional hearings at the moment also puts on a damper on the ability to follow through on new information.
It doesn't have the urgency of the Flynn immunity deal, which was a spark amidst all the smoke.
The lack of any Congressional hearings at the moment also puts on a damper on the ability to follow through on new information.
Poor GRIMES
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They were talking about it pretty extensively the past hour
Bolivar687
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Betsy DeVos' Blackwater-founding brother established a back channel to Putin in the Seychelles.
Seychelles. I found this photo of the meeting facility:
Seychelles. I found this photo of the meeting facility:
My timing is terribad then.
truth bombs all over the place today
It's hard to dissect this problem with GAF without witch hunting certain posters who basically lurk and then go into overdrive to keep those threads bumped, active, and brimming with accusations and drama.
Everyone gets sucked into these, but it takes a concerted effort to keep them going for so long, repeating the same arguments every fifty posts.
Gaf is a gaming forum first - so there are rational aspects to the relative passions and activities but it doesn't make it less sad.
innervision961
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Rush Limbaugh was mouthing when I turned my car on to leave for work earlier, he was saying "all they have is a fake dossier that claims trump hired prostitutes to pee on the obamas bed, this stuff is made up!"
As if that's all "we" have. He went on to say CNN is failing and doesn't have an audience, even though they are doing better now than they have in decades.
With mouthpieces like him, the uphill battle is real. It's so disheartening to know that people just gobble up actual lies and opinions without an ounce of thought.
As if that's all "we" have. He went on to say CNN is failing and doesn't have an audience, even though they are doing better now than they have in decades.
With mouthpieces like him, the uphill battle is real. It's so disheartening to know that people just gobble up actual lies and opinions without an ounce of thought.
radios shipping overview
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One possible upside to the idea of Trump having collaborated with Russia becoming so ingrained that people are cynical about Trump ever facing consequences is that the idea that Trump did indeed collaborate with Russia is now widespread. And that's the case despite how much the GOP likes to talk about leaks. In Trump's words, I know it, you know it, everybody knows it, but the GOP is pretending that isn't the case for as long as they need to be able to get their agenda rubber-stamped.
I agree that this isn't good for the world, but with the policies he has tried to push through, and his general demeanor towards other leaders (and really, anyone who isn't with him 100%), he's already doing damage. There is very little incentive to work with him when he says he's willing to work with Democrats, then blasts them the very next day on Twitter.
As much as I hate it, this is where we're at, and it is mostly a mess of his own making.
yeah, yeah it is fucking concern trolling.
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