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[Tobor]

Snyder needs this resolved so he can move forward with his line of Redskins brand KKK hoods and robes.

 

[Dennis]

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

Snyder is such a slimy shit sucker

 

[stump sock]

I'm not sure if my post was unclear but what you wrote is the same point I was making.
Just to be clear.

I was agreeing. It's not about "tradition" to the people with the money, it's the money. Fans don't seem to get this. this is a perfect opportunity to fuck the management. guess it's not as important to some as a questionable team name.

anyway, Deadspin has a better list of names dropped

http://deadspin.com/the-skins-latest-court-filing-is-comically-vulgar-1740262036

The PTO has registered hundreds if not thousands of marks that the Team believes are racist, or misogynistic, vulgar, or otherwise offensive. By way of example only, the following marks are registered today: TAKE YO PANTIES OFF clothing; DANGEROUS NEGRO shirts; SLUTSSEEKER dating services; DAGO SWAGG clothing; DUMB BLONDE beer; TWATTY GIRL cartoons; BAKED BY A NEGRO bakery goods; BIG TITTY BLEND coffee; RETARDIPEDIA website; MIDGET-MAN condoms and inflatable sex dolls; and JIZZ underwear. These are not isolated instances. The government routinely registers pornographers’ marks: TEENSDOPORN. COM, MILFSDOPORN. COM, THUG PORN, GHETTO BOOTY, and BOUND GANGBANGS are but a few.

No one today thinks registration reflects government approval. But if this Court holds that it does, how will the government explain registrations like MARIJUANA FOR SALE, CAPITALISM SUCKS DONKEY BALLS, LICENSED SERIAL KILLER, YID DISH, DIRTY WHOOORE CLOTHING COMPANY, and MURDER 4 HIRE?[4]

Other startling examples that would reflect government endorsement under the decision below include: SHANK THE B!T@H board game; CRACKA AZZ SKATEBOARDS; ANAL FANTASY COLLECTION, KLITORIS, and OMAZING SEX TOYS sex toys; HOT OCTOPUSS anti-premature ejaculation creams; OL GEEZER wines; EDIBLE CROTCHLESS GUMMY PANTIES lingerie; WTF WORK? online forum; MILF WEED bags; GRINGO STYLE SALSA; MAKE YOUR OWN DILDO; GRINGO BBQ; CONTEMPORARY NEGRO, F’D UP, WHITE TRASH REBEL, I LOVE VAGINA, WHITE GIRL WITH A BOOTY, PARTY WITH SLUTS, CRIPPLED OLD BIKER BASTARDS, DICK BALLS, and REDNECK ARMY apparel; OH! MY NAPPY HAIR shampoos; REFORMED WHORES and WHORES FROM HELL musical bands; LAUGHING MY VAGINA OFF entertainment; NAPPY ROOTS records; BOOTY CALL sex aids; BOYS ARE STUPID, THROW ROCKS AT THEM wallets; and DUMB BLONDE hair products. Word limits prevent us from listing more.

 

[LiK]

The hell are they doing?

 

[Big Baybee]

I really have no idea why they won't just change the fucking name. Holy shit.

 

[mre]

Nope. It's perfect. Except they just admitted the name is offensive, which they've been claiming it wasn't. Maybe they'll double down and call themselves the Dumb Blonde Redskined Midgets! Or Cosby..

At no point do they admit the name is offensive. This particular argument starts with the court's previous holding that the mark was derogatory, and attempts to point out the fallacy of the court holding this in a universe where these other potentially offensive / derogatory marks exist.

 

[……forgetit]

Man, I haven't thought about Nappy Roots in years. One of my elementary school teachers actually had a nephew that was in it.

Yeah, same here. I mean their last album was in....*Googles*........Last May? WTF?

 

[Gordon Shumway]

I really have no idea why they won't just change the fucking name. Holy shit.

They find Recheck Army and Ghetto Booty equally offensive. Why can't they say Redskins? Or nigger, for that matter..?

 

[Archaix]

They find Recheck Army and Ghetto Booty equally offensive. Why can't they say Redskins? Or nigger, for that matter..?

Seriously. If they can put dildo in a product name, I don't get why I can't sell my line of "Throw all those dirty japs back in internment camps" fencing. It's all the same.

 

[Professor Beef]

KLITORIS

fucking avatar quote lmao

 

[Gordon Shumway]

At no point do they admit the name is offensive. This particular argument starts with the court's previous holding that the mark was derogatory, and attempts to point out the fallacy of the court holding this in a universe where these other potentially offensive / derogatory marks exist.

Guess I can't read..

Seriously. If they can put dildo in a product name, I don't get why I can't sell my line of "Throw all those dirty japs back in internment camps" fencing. It's all the same.

FUCK! LMAO..well said.

 

[TS-08]

Guess I can't read..

Point out where they admit it, even impliedly. Making an "if that's true, then explain X" argument is not admitting "that" is true.

 

[stump sock]

At no point do they admit the name is offensive. This particular argument starts with the court's previous holding that the mark was derogatory, and attempts to point out the fallacy of the court holding this in a universe where these other potentially offensive / derogatory marks exist.

it's still a half-hearted argument because their name has crossed the line from "potentially offensive" to "actually (provenly) offensive."

people with ghetto booties aren't petitioning their local governments about GHETTO BOOTY

at least not that i'm aware of

 

[mre]

Oh my god this brief...

Nice--

Oklahoma, the name of a U.S. State, means Red People in Choctaw

Oklahoma: you're next.

it's still a half-hearted argument because their name has crossed the line from "potentially offensive" to "actually (provenly) offensive."

people with ghetto booties aren't petitioning their local governments about GHETTO BOOTY

at least not that i'm aware of

I didn't defend the argument; I merely correct the view that the Redskins had admitted in their briefing that their team name was offensive.

 

[massoluk]

With this argument doesn't this basically mean they are admitting they know full well the name is offensive?

 

[The Technomancer]

Nice--

Oklahoma: you're next.

Holy shit ahaha

 

[Polari]

With this argument doesn't this basically mean they are admitting they know full well the name is offensive?

Not really. More arguing that a name being perceived as offensive shouldn't be grounds for cancellation.

 

[mre]

With this argument doesn't this basically mean they are admitting they know full well the name is offensive?

No.

 

[poppabk]

Seriously. If they can put dildo in a product name, I don't get why I can't sell my line of "Throw all those dirty japs back in internment camps" fencing. It's all the same.

'Nappy roots', 'contemporary negro', 'koons'?

 

[Count Dookkake]

Except one is race related... you can't choose your race, but you can certainly choose to Party With Sluts.

Irrelevant.

Offense is in the eye of the offended. What offends you might not offend another.

 

[stump sock]

I didn't defend the argument; I merely correct the view that the Redskins had admitted in their briefing that their team name was offensive.

Don't be defensive, I wasn't trying to attack you. I was just pointing out their faulty logic.

 

[……forgetit]

'Nappy roots', 'contemporary negro', 'koons'?

Shockingly enough context really matters

 

[StMeph]

This seems like a valid defense to me. Not sure why everyone thinks it's so awful.

Particularly the line of arguments thwarting trademarks as government speech.

 

[Zach]

Holy crap. What schmucks.

 

[hey_it's_that_dog]

KLITORIS

Please stop it, this is just as offensive as the n-word.

 

[brochiller]

So..they've just admitted the team's name is in fact offensive..smart move.

My first thought too. This move is almost as smart as their on-field decisions.

 

[TS-08]

Shockingly enough context really matters

Well what's the context? I don't particularly like the Redskins name, but what are the differences in these trademarks?

 

[KingBroly]

it's still a half-hearted argument because their name has crossed the line from "potentially offensive" to "actually (provenly) offensive."

people with ghetto booties aren't petitioning their local governments about GHETTO BOOTY

at least not that i'm aware of

Doesn't matter if people are protesting something or not, it's that the Government is only doing something about one thing, and not everything. And if they did something about everything, people would bitch that it's in violation of freedom of speech in the first amendment.

 

[Arthr2ShdsJcksn]

'Nappy roots', 'contemporary negro', 'koons'?

Oddly enough, I used to sell magazine subscriptions to Contemporary Negro, Nappy Roots, and Koons. The 70s was a turbulent time.

 

[BadAss2961]

Where can I buy stock in 'take yo panties off' clothing?

 

[akira28]

I'm all for changing the name, and anyone who disagrees, in my presence, gets the eyebrows.

Oddly enough, I used to sell magazine subscriptions to Contemporary Negro, Nappy Roots, and Koons. The 70s was a turbulent time.

did you know that Koons (and the For Coons Weekly newsletter) and TigerBeat are published by the same company?

 

[Stinkles]

Yeah the slippery slope in effect. Not sure how the law on trademarks and names goes over there, but i don't think the point is baseless.

Except that the other offensive trademarks aren't regularly broadcast during lunchtime on publicly owned airwaves. And the other trademarks never previously claimed their marks weren't offensive.

 

[mre]

Doesn't matter if people are protesting something or not, it's that the Government is only doing something about one thing, and not everything. And if they did something about everything, people would bitch that it's in violation of freedom of speech in the first amendment.

The problem is that their argument only works in a vacuum, and, as others have said, context matters. Whether or not something is "disparaging" or "offensive" is something that will have to be taken up on a case by case basis. As Justice Potter Stewart once famously said about how to define hard-core pornagraphy: "I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." The PTO and the Courts will have to take each issue independently as it's presented to them, so the fact that the Redskins suggest "nappy roots" or whatever as an example of an equally disparaging / offensive mark that has not been canceled is not dispositive of the issue of whether or not the Redskins' marks are disparaging / offensive.

 

[……forgetit]

Well what's the context? I don't particularly like the Redskins name, but what are the differences in these trademarks?

I don't know what "koons" actually is, but Nappy Roots is a hip hop group that got it's name from the members being poor African Americans, therefore having "nappy" hair. I've only heard of people being offended by nappy once and that was when a radio host called a group of little girls prostitutes. "Contemporary Negro" I believe is an organization made by African Americans for African Americans that represents heritage threw fashion.

After a quick google search Koons is by a guy literally named Koons.

 

[mentallyinept]

God dammit Snyder... you stupid fucking bastard.

I bleed Burgundy and Gold, and have basically been a 'Skins fan since I knew what football was. This mother fucker is going to have 'Skins fans being called racist in the streets at this rate.

Just change the fucking name already.

Don't you already have "Warriors" in your back pocket ready to go?

 

[Omaer]

 

[NastyBook]

It would cost them considerably less money to think up a new name for the team.

 

[Cyan]

Nice--

Oklahoma: you're next.

Change the name of the state to "Dirtburglar."

 

[Stormhammer]

so are they just gonna go with washington foreskins now

 

[Quake1028]

Except one is race related... you can't choose your race, but you can certainly choose to Party With Sluts.

And these do not have racial undertones?

Dangerous Negro shirts
CRACKA AZZ SKATEBOARDS
GRINGO BBQ
CONTEMPORARY NEGRO
WHITE TRASH REBEL
WHITE GIRL WITH A BOOTY
NAPPY ROOTS records

 

[Version 3.0]

None of those trademarks use a racial slur.

 

[captive]

I was agreeing. It's not about "tradition" to the people with the money, it's the money. Fans don't seem to get this. this is a perfect opportunity to fuck the management. guess it's not as important to some as a questionable team name.

anyway, Deadspin has a better list of names dropped

http://deadspin.com/the-skins-latest-court-filing-is-comically-vulgar-1740262036

whether you agree with the redskins name or not, you can't read the majority of those names and say its perfectly legit that they cancelled the redskins trademark and not those.

 

[Ally of Justice]

While they're technically right... that kind of defense is more degrading than having to change their names.

"Our trademark and name, your honor, should not be censored and should be, instead, worn with honor and pride, such as other companies have done with their own WHOOORE CLOTHING COMPANY and CRACKA AZZ SKATEBOARDS brands, to name a few.

We demand our right to say and write whatever we want, for things like OH! MY NAPPY HAIR, BIG TITTY BLEND and DANGEROUS NEGRO are what makes America, our country, such an example to the world.

I rest my case."

 

[ampere]

:lol

Fuck Dan Synder. Feel bad for the smarter fans who don't buy into his bullshit

 

[Skateboard P]

10/10 on the thread title OP

Would click again

 

[IrishNinja]

I died when I saw Nappy Roots listed, holy shit

for those who don't know

nappy roots gon be okay, okay

 

[Gordon Shumway]

None of those trademarks use a racial slur.

Really? Are you sure?

 

[Crimson_Gold]

Really? Are you sure?

To some, it isn't a slur if that's what you them in your head

 

[n00bsauce87]

It's happening. I'll be getting that jersey when it comes out. Jordan Reed preferably.