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Washington Redskins appealing trademark case with ‘Take Yo Panties Off’ porn defense

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This is stupid. If they change the name they can sell millions more in new merchandise and get the entire nation off their backs. Why stay with their stupid name?
 

vern

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How does it hurt his pocketbook to change the name though? Fighting these legal battles aren't cheap. And changing the name means all the fans run out and buy new jerseys, tees, hats, etc. All the fans (the few that are left anyway) will completely update their wardrobe. Whenever teams change colors/logo/etc uni sales increase, at least that's what I've read before.
 

Parshias7

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How does it hurt his pocketbook to change the name though? Fighting these legal battles aren't cheap. And changing the name means all the fans run out and buy new jerseys, tees, hats, etc. All the fans (the few that are left anyway) will completely update their wardrobe. Whenever teams change colors/logo/etc uni sales increase, at least that's what I've read before.

All NFL jersey sales are split between the 31 NFL teams, (the Cowboys have a different set up) so Washington doesn't get as much money from new jersey sales as you think.

Oh, and the team has to eat the cost of all the unsold merchandise.
 
How does it hurt his pocketbook to change the name though? Fighting these legal battles aren't cheap. And changing the name means all the fans run out and buy new jerseys, tees, hats, etc. All the fans (the few that are left anyway) will completely update their wardrobe. Whenever teams change colors/logo/etc uni sales increase, at least that's what I've read before.

Snyder is stubborn and also an asshole. He'll go broke fighting this if he has to.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It's literally like the South Park episode with all those other company names.

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Ri'Orius

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Oh, and the team has to eat the cost of all the unsold merchandise.

There are a lot of people who support the name. If they announced an imminent name change, I would expect the hardcore fans to snap up the very last Redskins merch as memorabilia. Like how gun and ammo sales go up when a Democrat takes office.
 

SURGEdude

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LOL. Wow 'skins. I mean sure it's true that the implementation of the rule doesn't seem very intelligently or consistently applied. But if you get caught speeding you don't get off simply by pointing out the person to your side was going even faster.

How the organization has let this get as far as it has is just crazy. It's not even a great or iconic team like the Yankees or the Cowboys. I gotta say I'm actually less offended at the stupid outdated term and more with how indignant and high and mighty they've been about the ensuing drama.
 

Madness

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This is stupid. If they change the name they can sell millions more in new merchandise and get the entire nation off their backs. Why stay with their stupid name?

The name Redskins, as offensive as it is, is far more valuable than any other name they can come up with currently. Additionally, they have the support of their fan base nationally, and the local community. It's only in the social media era and the Internet, where it seems like voices against them are amplified

Though I think this is a losing battle, you're right. Eventually Snyder will be gone and his son or whoever takes over the team won't have the connections and will to fight it.
 
While I agree with the basic idea of the defense in theory, in practice I certainly don't. Clearly porn companies aren't broadcasting on basic cable, slapping a name on players' uniforms, etc.
 

Parshias7

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Since we're on the subject of the costs of changing the team's name, I found an article that goes into the numbers a little bit: http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/42640844/

The Redskins are a significant NFL franchise. Last year, Forbes estimated that the team was worth $1.6 billion -- the third-highest valuation in the league -- and that the club turned a $109 million profit in 2011. As such, suppose a name change would actually cost Snyder as much as $20 million. That's nearly a fifth of an entire year's profits. Pretty substantial.

So Snyder is pretty obviously doing this for the money, and to protect what is a very valuable sports brand.

As a Washington fan myself, and someone who hates Snyder, I think they should change the name. I think the name will be changed eventually. But it might take the better part of a decade, as Snyder will fight this tooth and nail.
 

Garlador

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Maybe Synder's just a really big Peter Pan Disney fan?
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I think this is hysterical. I love how they just openly admit "they're offensive TOO! Why can't WE be offensive?"
 

Sarah Fendley, owner of Big City Coffee in Boise — Owner of the B-- T---- B---- trademark

(Washington’s lawyers even managed to disparage a charitable effort. B-- T---- B---- was created after Fendley lost a friend to breast cancer and $1 from every sale goes toward a breast cancer charity.)


“We have raised enough funds this year to fund 175 mammograms and if that's offensive then don't buy my coffee.”

Your move, Snyder.
 
For what it's worth... GRINGO STYLE SALSA and GRINGO BBQ (also named in the defense) is a great salsa brand. Assuming this is "Gringo Jack's" that I buy at the super market.

But goddam is this embarrassing for the 'Skins
 

Aiii

So not worth it

BAKED BY A NEGRO bakery goods.

Description of Mark: The mark consists of the wording "BAKED BY A NEGRO" which is a historical reference.

https://twitter.com/BakedbyaNegro

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http://www.bakedbyanegro.com/

Which links here:
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http://darkinboddy.com/

*Melanie Darkinboddy is a fictional character whose memoir, The Life and Strange, Surprising Adventures of Melanie Darkinboddy, an American Negro: A Tale of Race, Cookies, and Theft, is part of a larger web-based project.

I have to say, though, the promotional video sure shows some delicious cookies: "If it's baked by a Negro, you know it's good!"
 

balohna

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This is a bad defense IMO, or at least one with a glaring hole. None of the brands they're mentioning have the reach or ubiquity of a football team. The most popular sport in a country of 300 million people, with a growing international audience. There are children right now wearing Washington Redskins t-shirts, too young and naive to know the racist implications of the name. If someone wants to seek out pornography, as typically one would have to do in order to find it, they probably won't find the title offensive. The same goes for sex toys, etc. And most brands with a racial reference in their name are made BY members of that race, often FOR members of that race. Heaven forbid people with nappy hair want products clearly marked for their type of hair.
 
Though I think this is a losing battle, you're right. Eventually Snyder will be gone and his son or whoever takes over the team won't have the connections and will to fight it.

Yeah, but Dan Snyder is only 50. Al Davis owned the Raiders right up until he died at age 82. You really think we should put up with this bullshit through 2047 just because Snyder will eventually die (since that's the only way he's ever going to leave)? Obviously Roger Goodell will never do anything about it, since he's too busy measuring air pressure, trying to get three separate teams to move to LA simultaneously and exiling the worst teams in the league to London because apparently he still bears a grudge for the war of 1812. What's the legitimization of casual racism when compared to that?

Why are sports leagues the most corrupt organizations on Earth? FIFA, the IOC, the NFL... it's absurd.
 

BadAss2961

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Why stay with their stupid name?
Pride, tradition, stubbornness and all that. It's a historied franchise with a ton of value. I think they really do look at the name as a positive to Native Americans though. They wouldn't have used or kept it otherwise.
 
Pride, tradition, stubbornness and all that. It's a historied franchise with a ton of value. I think they really do look at the name as a positive to Native Americans though. They wouldn't have used or kept it otherwise.
Snyder doesn't care about any of that lol. He grew up with that team name and hell die with that team name. Any time he's questioned too much about the subject, he calls the person an anti-Semite..he's a child and a clown.

Clown said:
We will never change the name of the team. As a lifelong Redskins fan, and I think that the Redskins fans understand the great tradition and what it’s all about and what it means, so we feel pretty fortunate to be just working on next season. I will never change the name. It’s that simple – NEVER. You can use caps.

Tradition, but lemme show you other examples of offensive names..which isn't us admitting it, btw!
 

BadAss2961

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Snyder doesn't care about any of that lol. He grew up with that team name and hell die with that team name. Any time he's questioned too much about the subject, he calls the person an anti-Semite..he's a child and a clown.
Oh I know he couldn't care less about the Natives or what they want, but I think supporters of the name and logo believe it implies pride and strength as opposed to a negative slur.
 
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