NotoriousPUG
Member
Same. I hope people can't play the beta before backers and not have to pay the $55 fee.
Any idea on what the release price will be?
Wasteland 2 Beta is Available
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Same. I hope people can't play the beta before backers and not have to pay the $55 fee.
Any idea on what the release price will be?
Looks like it'll be more than $55 through Early Access:
https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/411293389800226816
https://twitter.com/BrianFargo/status/411293389800226816
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Can I have it, then?
Forgot to up my pledge, and am not sure if I can still qualify now for doing so.
Saw some streams last night, obviously, some re-balancing to be done, with AP costs for blood packs, item costs, and the like, but from what I saw, game looked pretty darn good.
It's early access so you get the beta by purchasing the game AFAIK. Again, this will be the Steam (ie digital) version, so people who went with the 50 dollar physical tier are still tied to that.
So far it's pretty unhandholdy. Not just objectives, but items, skills, everything. There's no "press M1 to perform the appropriate action." If you have a safe cracker in the party, you won't just crack the safe by clicking it, you need to select the character, and select the skill. I can't comment on the story other than it's really vague, you're a team of rookie rangers sent into the world.
O.DOGG
Member
Can I have it, then?
Let me think about it. I'll look at some gameplay on youtube before I decide I really don't want to play it
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Well shit, I'd feel bad if that's true. Haven't had much experience with steam betas, was thinking along the lines of the separate demo/retail game divide.
No worries, if that is the case. The vids'll tide me over.
If there is a roll over you can just give him your own digital key when the game is out (the $50 physical tier also comes with one).
MightyHedgehog was nice enough to hook me up with his beta key since he didn't want to mess with it, and if it does turn into the full version, I'll just give him my digital key later on. I also pledged enough to Torment 2 to get an additional Wasteland 2 key.
MightyHedgehog was nice enough to hook me up with his beta key since he didn't want to mess with it, and if it does turn into the full version, I'll just give him my digital key later on. I also pledged enough to Torment 2 to get an additional Wasteland 2 key.
Does pledging $55 now also then get you two beta entries?
O.DOGG
Member
Note that I didn't get two beta entries, only one. I expect to get two copies of the game upon release.
Then no problems.
Playing it a bit more.
When in combat, enemies status bars sometimes float off screen, or in weird places, so I have to zoom or rotate to find it.
Hit percentages are pretty random, an enemy next to me may be 69% while someone ten tiles away is 84%.
On the character screen, I can slot ammo next to the persons gun, and it will appear on the main screen, but when I go back into the character screen it is missing.
Sometimes characters won't reload (only checked out of combat) even if they have ammo. Worst is when they have no ammo, I find some, have them equip it, then go back to the main screen. It looks like they have no ammo in main or character screen. Then suddenly ammo shows up.
No indication of how many AP to reload (unless it's 4 for all weapons?).
Playing this a bit more, I'm beginning to see how rough it is. I hope they don't launch too soon.
When in combat, enemies status bars sometimes float off screen, or in weird places, so I have to zoom or rotate to find it.
Hit percentages are pretty random, an enemy next to me may be 69% while someone ten tiles away is 84%.
On the character screen, I can slot ammo next to the persons gun, and it will appear on the main screen, but when I go back into the character screen it is missing.
Sometimes characters won't reload (only checked out of combat) even if they have ammo. Worst is when they have no ammo, I find some, have them equip it, then go back to the main screen. It looks like they have no ammo in main or character screen. Then suddenly ammo shows up.
No indication of how many AP to reload (unless it's 4 for all weapons?).
Playing this a bit more, I'm beginning to see how rough it is. I hope they don't launch too soon.
It's a real beta, they don't have to launch in time for a quarterly earnings report, Early Access will bring in more money for development. It's going to be a while.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
I know it's in beta so I'm assuming InXile will polish the game up significantly for release.
First off, I'm assuming that InXile will allow more in-depth graphics customisation instead of the default Unity Engine presets (fastest - fantastic).
The character models and design are average, and the textures in the game are disappointingly low-res. I remember reading that the textures will be beefed up for release so there's that.
I've only been to the first location (currently making way to the second), and the map design is also uninspired and average. There were parts of the level, and I hope this makes sense, where it looked like it was obviously created with an editor.
The enemy AI was woeful and, in one instance, didn't see me even though I was standing right next to them.
The UI is also cumbersome and unwieldy to use but at least it's functional. I'm using a 30" screen @ 2560 x 1600 and it scales well but I have to move my head quite a ways to read the text in the message window.
I hope that InXile allows us to move the UI elements to where we want them. Also during dialogue sequences, it wasn't clear to me which dialogue options were due to my intimidation, charisma etc. perks.
I liked that the dialogue was well-written, with some decent voice-acting driving it home. I've never played the original Wasteland, but the beta clearly gave me Fallout 1 and 2 vibes (games that I love to bits). I also liked how new points-of-interests/objectives are marked on the map on the fly during dialogue.
Anyway I'll give it a more thorough bash tomorrow.
First off, I'm assuming that InXile will allow more in-depth graphics customisation instead of the default Unity Engine presets (fastest - fantastic).
The character models and design are average, and the textures in the game are disappointingly low-res. I remember reading that the textures will be beefed up for release so there's that.
I've only been to the first location (currently making way to the second), and the map design is also uninspired and average. There were parts of the level, and I hope this makes sense, where it looked like it was obviously created with an editor.
The enemy AI was woeful and, in one instance, didn't see me even though I was standing right next to them.
The UI is also cumbersome and unwieldy to use but at least it's functional. I'm using a 30" screen @ 2560 x 1600 and it scales well but I have to move my head quite a ways to read the text in the message window.
I hope that InXile allows us to move the UI elements to where we want them. Also during dialogue sequences, it wasn't clear to me which dialogue options were due to my intimidation, charisma etc. perks.
I liked that the dialogue was well-written, with some decent voice-acting driving it home. I've never played the original Wasteland, but the beta clearly gave me Fallout 1 and 2 vibes (games that I love to bits). I also liked how new points-of-interests/objectives are marked on the map on the fly during dialogue.
Anyway I'll give it a more thorough bash tomorrow.
You can already do this. To unlock the UI there is a "lock" button near the mini-map.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Awesome. Thanks!
Thank you to all the people posting some impressions on the beta (but I need more, more!). This is one of my most wanted games and I really hope it's good.
I finished about a couple of months ago Shadowrun Returns and I loved the vibe of the game. The mood, the setting with the rain in the city and how the Story was told in a very detailed way, like reading a book. Was disappointed in the length and I had a glitch that made me lost a couple of hours. Aside of that, it was a great game and it only made me even more hyped for Wasteland 2. I really hope I can have some lengthy gameplay and I can't wait to try it out. From what I've seen on the Yotube it looks pretty too with small details in the environment, I know I should have backed but let the game hit on Steam and if the price is affordable for my wallet right now (because we are living in hard times in here) I'll be getting Day one.
Is it realistic to expect at least 20 or more hours from this game?
I finished about a couple of months ago Shadowrun Returns and I loved the vibe of the game. The mood, the setting with the rain in the city and how the Story was told in a very detailed way, like reading a book. Was disappointed in the length and I had a glitch that made me lost a couple of hours. Aside of that, it was a great game and it only made me even more hyped for Wasteland 2. I really hope I can have some lengthy gameplay and I can't wait to try it out. From what I've seen on the Yotube it looks pretty too with small details in the environment, I know I should have backed but let the game hit on Steam and if the price is affordable for my wallet right now (because we are living in hard times in here) I'll be getting Day one.
Is it realistic to expect at least 20 or more hours from this game?
The beta lasts ~10 hours and, according to InXile, it represents 20% of the game.
Thanks for answering. 10 Hours for this Beta? That is really good, now I'm even more curious! Did anyone streamed this with some decent quality/high settings? Any past broadcast from Twitch or anything similar?
This guy was: http://www.twitch.tv/theadrain
Edit: Nvm, found it.
Sorry, was gone for much of the day. I just found it via a google search. Wasteland 2 forum You can also access it from the bottom of the Wasteland 2 website.
Sorry, was gone for much of the day. I just found it via a google search. Wasteland 2 forum You can also access it from the bottom of the Wasteland 2 website.
You might as well post the answer just in case someone else has the same question.
It's up on Steam now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/240760/?snr=1_7_15__13
EndersAres
Neo Member
I have played about 5 hours of the beta. I am at one of the southern objectives right now. The area I'm in is very large, I have spent two hours so far in here trying not to die. Fortunately the regenerating health and the tons of medical supplies I keep finding are keeping me alive. Ammunition for my teams guns is non-existent so far. I have found mountains of thirty aught six ammunition and .22 ammo. I have not seen either of those weapon types yet. Combat right now is a slog for my rangers because of that. The combat doesn't seem as responsive as the combat in similar turned based games like fallout or even xcom which I read some guy compare it to. In those games when you see the right numbers you know you are going to connect with the enemy. Here it feels like you are at the mercy of a dice roll even if the numbers are in your favor, and when you get a streak of misses it can make it frustratingly infuriating. It would be nice if they added targeting of individual pieces of the anatomy and cool death animations like the first two fallout games had.
I haven't really met any interesting characters yet. Dialog is so so. Seen a few funny discriptions. Being spoiled by fallout 1/2, planescape and baldurs gate 1/2 recently have made me sour towards other games writing. I had some issues with loading where it would load forever or load then go to a black screen for a minute. Changing the res would turn the game upside down for a few minutes. Controlling six dudes in a small corridor was challenging. My overall impressions so far are pretty positive. Hopefully they get some of the combat issues ironed out along with the loot balancing.
I haven't really met any interesting characters yet. Dialog is so so. Seen a few funny discriptions. Being spoiled by fallout 1/2, planescape and baldurs gate 1/2 recently have made me sour towards other games writing. I had some issues with loading where it would load forever or load then go to a black screen for a minute. Changing the res would turn the game upside down for a few minutes. Controlling six dudes in a small corridor was challenging. My overall impressions so far are pretty positive. Hopefully they get some of the combat issues ironed out along with the loot balancing.
I always found energy ammo super scarce in Fallout 1+2, but playing this, I can always find some in a chest or in a safe. Does the game see what guns you're carrying and spawn ammo for it occasionally? I would try wielding the weapons you can't find ammo for. Ammo appears in locked rooms and safes. I'd get some lockpick and safecrack skills early.
Final price will be lower than with early access.
It'll probably launch at $20-30. It's only this high because it wouldn't be fair to backers who donated 55+ to gain beta access only to launch the title on early access for $20.
It even says this on the game's store page on the early access memo >_>
I saw something in the options menu about text size. No idea how much of the text it affects but it's there.
You can also move the UI if you need. Unlock is near the mini-map.
About the price I thought the original kick starter had claimed that the game was available to backers cheaper than release? I could picture launch being in the 35-40 dollar range but with 50% sales coming within 3 months and a permanent price drop to 20 within a year.
I think it might be feeding ammo based on needs through safes and chests. I kept stocked with energy cells and 7.29.
Haven't read the review yet, but the fact that their reviewing a beta is kinda trashy imo.
Why? It's not a closed beta. If the game is offered on early-access to the public, it's fair game to review. Eurogamer doesn't assign a score, but they talk about what they think works and doesn't work. No different than any message board thread with people talking about their beta experiences.
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Deleted member 102362
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Exactly. And it's a good preview. Particularly, I agree with their complaints about the combat. Hopefully, that will get some tweaks over the next few weeks.
Lonewolf_92
Member
I know, right? Give him
Ace's Wrench
Deth is carrying in her inventory
It's not about hitting but damage done. I've seen enemies absorb full burst fire from the starting AR type without blinking that go down in a few whacks with the pipe
or one or two with Ace's Wrench
Deth
Also the
Exploding Pod People
Brother None
Member
New update is out, long fix/tweak notes here (with some spoilers at the end)
Nah, we explicitly said "do writeups on it, just mention it's a beta please". The only issue is how much the mainstream publisher "beta" (when they put out a release candidate for promotional reasons) has skewed perspective on what a beta is, and sets up false perceptions on how much we can and will change based on feedback (as in, a lot).
Nah, we explicitly said "do writeups on it, just mention it's a beta please". The only issue is how much the mainstream publisher "beta" (when they put out a release candidate for promotional reasons) has skewed perspective on what a beta is, and sets up false perceptions on how much we can and will change based on feedback (as in, a lot).
Great patch notes. Will give it another run-through soon.
It'll be interesting to see how attribute balance starts to form up over time. Right now Awareness is far too powerful since it gives a very significant bump to the amount of turns a character has in combat even through single-point differences. When I played the game originally I had a fairly powerful melee character who would sadly be lucky to get in a single turn in a combat scenario, while someone with only two more points in Awareness got substantially more action. Awareness greatly supersedes Speed on anything but a melee character, and they still need both to get in the fight.
Charisma at this early stage has taken its traditional spot as the dump stat, but the dump stat for seemingly every character. However, its potential impact in the broader game is unknown as far as choice-making, nor whether it will have a more combat-oriented role in the future. It's the only attribute that doesn't have any clear role in combat so far, and the game is heavily combat-focused. It doesn't appear that the persuasion skills are impacted by CHA as the game only seems to make checks on those individually during dialogue (it acts as a cap on the Leadership skill, perhaps?)
Luck was also formerly less impactful than may be ideal as you would have been much better off just putting those points into other stats (like Coordination) rather than hoping you'd get a chance for bonus AP at the start of the turn, and such, but I'm curious to see how Luck fares now with the modified loot tables since it's noted in the description to have increase drop rates for better stuff.
It'll be interesting to see how attribute balance starts to form up over time. Right now Awareness is far too powerful since it gives a very significant bump to the amount of turns a character has in combat even through single-point differences. When I played the game originally I had a fairly powerful melee character who would sadly be lucky to get in a single turn in a combat scenario, while someone with only two more points in Awareness got substantially more action. Awareness greatly supersedes Speed on anything but a melee character, and they still need both to get in the fight.
Charisma at this early stage has taken its traditional spot as the dump stat, but the dump stat for seemingly every character. However, its potential impact in the broader game is unknown as far as choice-making, nor whether it will have a more combat-oriented role in the future. It's the only attribute that doesn't have any clear role in combat so far, and the game is heavily combat-focused. It doesn't appear that the persuasion skills are impacted by CHA as the game only seems to make checks on those individually during dialogue (it acts as a cap on the Leadership skill, perhaps?)
Luck was also formerly less impactful than may be ideal as you would have been much better off just putting those points into other stats (like Coordination) rather than hoping you'd get a chance for bonus AP at the start of the turn, and such, but I'm curious to see how Luck fares now with the modified loot tables since it's noted in the description to have increase drop rates for better stuff.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
I don't know if this is worthy of a new thread or not, but an email I got says anyone who backed the Kickstarter will be allowed into the beta for a $10 fee: