BlackGhost
Banned
Im enjoying it. I really enjoy Austin though. I could go for some of the eps being longer. The intro music is really good
I listen to this regularly now along with the giant bomb stuff.
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I listen to this regularly now along with the giant bomb stuff.
HamPster PamPster
Member
I wonder what GOTY plans Waypoint has. Surely Austin and Patrick understand the importance of over the top game ranking science?
It fills the hole Bombin' the AM left in my heart, but the not the hole left by Match3
It fills the hole Bombin' the AM left in my heart, but the not the hole left by Match3
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Nitro Plus Blasterz GOTY
That North Jersey - South Jersey beef man. Gotta keep it real.
That North Jersey - South Jersey beef man. Gotta keep it real.
this is a joke and I hope the rest of the posts are "Jeff hates Brad hates..." of GB stuff...
SolicitorPirate
Member
I really like it. I do miss the silliness that Austin, Vinny and Alex got up to, but it's otherwise a really solid podcast.
I do wish it was just 20 to 30 minutes longer though. I feel that the 45 minutes to 1 hour length forces them to rush through points at times
whaaaaat? what's wrong with the song!? I love that song.
As for enjoying the podcast, I love it, and if they could just make more of it that'd be great.
As much as I like the podcast overall, I had to skip past the ffxv analysis by Austin and especially Patrick when he mentioned that "I wish there was some prologue episode explaining relationships between characters"
I know that a videogame journalist doesn't have the time to consume ever piece of media out there but come on, both Kingslaive & Brotherhood solved / answered all of his gripes & he should at least be aware of their existence even if he hasn't had the time to watch both.
It's rather frustrating hearing two journalists who I like and are meant to be knowledgeable on the subject of videogames be completely oblivious to the companion media that answers and addresses most if not all of your gripes about a game.
I know that a videogame journalist doesn't have the time to consume ever piece of media out there but come on, both Kingslaive & Brotherhood solved / answered all of his gripes & he should at least be aware of their existence even if he hasn't had the time to watch both.
It's rather frustrating hearing two journalists who I like and are meant to be knowledgeable on the subject of videogames be completely oblivious to the companion media that answers and addresses most if not all of your gripes about a game.
Yeah, love the Podcast.
and I loved when Patrick and Austin called out on Shenmue for being obtuse and outdated.
People need to move, They were OK, but now they are bad games.
Yakuza games is where is at.
I really don't want to call you out, but you seem to be cherry picking their comment. They exactly expressed the fact that, once you need other mediums to explain the motivation of your entire character of the game, you fucked up. I don't wanna watch a movie or series to actually understand a game that I paid my hard earned money and made me more confused and puzzled on why things turned out as they did.
The fact that you are encouraging people to watch/read/ listen to other mediums to justify a shortcoming to a game is bizarre. I mean, if the base game had a complete story; meaning that all the characters are properly laid out, the plot progressed smoothly, etc; and The movies just expanded on the fiction, then thats fine. But if I need to that, and the game didn't exactly fulfilled its presupposed promises of being a complete tale, then the have screwed up entirely.
In fact, Square Enix seems to agree with me considering they are patching the Kingsleive storyline into the actual game to give more context to the storyline.
and I loved when Patrick and Austin called out on Shenmue for being obtuse and outdated.
People need to move, They were OK, but now they are bad games.
Yakuza games is where is at.
I really don't want to call you out, but you seem to be cherry picking their comment. They exactly expressed the fact that, once you need other mediums to explain the motivation of your entire character of the game, you fucked up. I don't wanna watch a movie or series to actually understand a game that I paid my hard earned money and made me more confused and puzzled on why things turned out as they did.
The fact that you are encouraging people to watch/read/ listen to other mediums to justify a shortcoming to a game is bizarre. I mean, if the base game had a complete story; meaning that all the characters are properly laid out, the plot progressed smoothly, etc; and The movies just expanded on the fiction, then thats fine. But if I need to that, and the game didn't exactly fulfilled its presupposed promises of being a complete tale, then the have screwed up entirely.
In fact, Square Enix seems to agree with me considering they are patching the Kingsleive storyline into the actual game to give more context to the storyline.
They've mentioned the other media in other podcasts, but that's not that point. That should be in the game, not something else I have to pay for in terms of Kingsglaive and even if it was free, I don't want to watch it. I want to play a video game.,
Eh, I fully agree that SE fucked up by not including Brotherhood & Kingslaive into the maingame (more than just a few direct cuts and a half-baked reference to Prompto's childhood) it's just that if you are going to say that you didn't understand why a particular character or events occurred during play you should clarify with a comment like "perhaps it was referenced in the other media around the game" alongside / after the comment.
Anyway, if they acknowledged that in the past, then fine but for the sake of clarity it should have been mentioned again especially when you're giving your round up of the game overall.
Anyway, if they acknowledged that in the past, then fine but for the sake of clarity it should have been mentioned again especially when you're giving your round up of the game overall.
Well, how would you know if that was referenced in other mediums in the first place?
Also, they are critics, they critiquing the game by what it got and what its missing in of it self. Not by its connections to other mediums.
I don't know.
While I do like it and all, I am tired of Bo-en getting mentioned again and again. i get that as a musician you need to get the acknowledgment and the credit, but repeating his name like 5 (maybe I am exaggerating a bit here!) in a single episode feels..... as much as I hate to say it, a shill.
Well as a normal consumer you wouldn't know and that is where I think we can all agree that SE fucked up.
The motivations / back story can be unclear or confusing if you come to this blind but as a critic you aren't (or at least shouldn't be) completely oblivious to companion media and it's rough synopsis despite not having had the time to watch it.
I don't really have a problem with them critiquing the game for it's short comings in this department, the problem I had is that in this particular discussion they seemed oblivious to any other aspect of storytelling that exists outside the boxed product. Irregardless of Square making a mess of their games storytelling, as a videogame critic, not knowing about the output of the publisher in relation to the product your discussing comes across as poor profesionalsim by not doing your research.*
*for the sake of clarity, at the time of my earlier post I was unaware that they had mentioned the anime / movie at all so this was my take from hearing the comments on the lack of explanation regarding motivation.
In regards to your comment on Bo-en perhaps Bo-en made that a stipulation to say that the music is provided by them?
It's a freakin' tragedy how little Danielle we get on the podcast. Make Danielle the host!
Imma have to disagree with you on that. The music is rad, I love hearing it every show.
Yeah. I love it too.
The only way to watch them is on their twitch channel unfortunately it only has videos from the last 2 weeks so about 8 videos.
https://www.twitch.tv/waypoint/videos/all
giant_frying_pan
Member
It was the Friday Waypoint Radio. I'm sure it'll be on the feed soon.
avengers23
Banned
We have new evidence of Patrick Klepek's anime nature.
Turns out they are doing GOTY stuff... Kinda.
Welcome to the Waypoint High School Yearbook
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/letter-from-the-dean-welcome-to-waypoint-high-school
Welcome to the Waypoint High School Yearbook
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/letter-from-the-dean-welcome-to-waypoint-high-school
Danielle's Top 10 of 2016 list. Pretty awesome list with a lot of variety. Especially because she realizes how amazing Dishonored is.
WAYPOINT IS OFFICIALLY ANIME
OFFICIAL FANFICS
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/waypoint-high-school-fanfic-the-coven?utm_source=wptwitterus
OFFICIAL FANFICS
https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article/waypoint-high-school-fanfic-the-coven?utm_source=wptwitterus
Incandenza
Banned
I don't understand why they picked the Old Fire Emblem Tiddy Character over the New Fire Emblem Tiddy Character.
she's better/better known?
avengers23
Banned
Waypoint's busy putting up fan fic and misses the Frog Factions 2 scoop. Patrick might have to lose the "Scoops" nickname over this.
Not a fan of this Waypoint GOTY stuff. Some of the articles are all right but I feel like they're presented in a way that makes me less interested in them, and obfuscates what they're actually about. Like Mike wrote a big thing on Inside but you wouldn't know it since the headline and the "yearbook" intro doesn't really let you know what the article is. The fanfic and "random superlative" type stuff is really dumb too, and (IMO) not in a fun way. I get they want to be different but I'd rather they just publish a bunch of good articles looking back on games and stories from throughout the year without the silly theme.
Basically, anime is for jerks.
Basically, anime is for jerks.
inb4 no fun allowed
dfa records
Member
Yeah the GOTY stuff is way too heavy handed, weird, awkward, forced whatever term you want to use. I can hear Danielle echoing from a few podcasts ago "don't kink shame," and I don't want to too, but the anime fanfic stuff is just not interesting and feels unnecessary. I get they want to be different and inclusive and all that, and I think they do a great job of that overall, but this is bad. I'm sure there are plenty of people who want to read Yuri on Ice x Doom Guy fanfic, but i feel like it's all way too hyper specific to ever really grow as a website. Love to Austin, Klep and Danielle, just want something better.
John Kowalski
Banned
I like it. Highschool setting is a bit on the nose, but it's fun.
Still find it super weird that their features are at the bottom of the page.
Still find it super weird that their features are at the bottom of the page.
A lot of it is so specific, too. Like the whole theme is very US-centric. But then you also have to be into the game, the characters, fanfic and their take on it.
Guess it's awesome for some people, so have at it.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
I've kinda swung back on forth on it. The concept seemed a bit... writerly (ie something exciting and creative for those involved, but barely functional in practice -- like the first draft of an essay or something). But then I realise it's this weird internet island I can visit that doesn't feel like anything else in its space. It's a little bit awkward but they're trying, and as someone who became a chronic worrier over the course of the past year: I appreciate the effort.
funkystudent
Member
I said it in another thread but I'll say it here.
It feels like a bad tumblr account.
Duders need to reign it in a bit. I don't need serious video game site x1743 but this is just painfully bad.
It feels like a bad tumblr account.
Duders need to reign it in a bit. I don't need serious video game site x1743 but this is just painfully bad.
nckillthegrimace
Member
The high school stuff is fucking terrible. While I'm being negative, they need to stop posting inside joke slack screenshots on the Waypoint twitter.
And I'm sick of the fucking podcast music.
And I'm sick of the fucking podcast music.