We all die.

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Death is crazy to think about. I always wonder what will happen when we die. Shit just happens and we don't even know. I would go on and say 'pitch black' but we don't have senses so it doesn't matter. It kind of sucks to just not experience anything afterwards, if that's what happens. I mean, I don't want to live FOREVER. I just want to not experience being elderly. That shit freaks me out more than death, aside from experiencing my last moments. Hopefully its nothing torturous. Being elderly seems so painful. You go from a baby to living life to turning back into a bigger baby. It would be awesome if scientists figure something out some way to decrease aging.

I hope that death brings at least one thing: knowledge or an observing state. I want to know how everything works. What space is? What is time? What happens to the world? If not that, I want to be able to observe it happening. Life seems so awesome it just sucks we wont be able to see all of it occur.
 
I'd like to think we're in an oscillatory universe and when we die we are reborn in the next iteration of the universe (instantly of course since we would no longer be observing time).
 
XHPrime said:
I'd like to think we're in an oscillatory universe and when we die we are reborn in the next iteration of the universe (instantly of course since we would no longer be observing time).
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Well, considering that the galaxies are actually expanding away from each other at an increasing rate (ie speeding up due to vacuum energy), it looks like this is it. One long journey into infinity.
 
grumble said:
Well, considering that the galaxies are actually expanding away from each other at an increasing rate (ie speeding up due to vacuum energy), it looks like this is it. One long journey into infinity.
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The jury's still out on this one.
 
XHPrime said:
I'd like to think we're in an oscillatory universe and when we die we are reborn in the next iteration of the universe (instantly of course since we would no longer be observing time).
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This and other forms of reincarnation are always a mixed bag, in that I really can't see how any of them are very good. For example, do we remember our past life? How many other lives do we get to live out?

If we don't remember our past life: Then what is the point? If we lose all memory of our former life or lives then it might as well be a new person. The person you once were is completely dead, and the experience you receive would be the the same as a person who doesn't reincarnate and dies into oblivion.

If we do remember our past life: Then we're just shifting the dread. How many extra lives are we going to get? If we run out at any point eventually we're going to run into the same quagmire of "not wanting to die." If we get infinite lives and therefore eternal life we're just going to burn out as our mind exhausts itself as time stretches on indefinitely.

I don't see why oblivion is so terrible. You no longer exist. Can you feel sad that you no longer exist? No. You're gone. You lost the capacity to feel sadness when you died. Regrets? Nope. You can regret while you're dying, to the millisecond before you die but once you're dead? No regrets. You're returning back to the time before you existed, and I don't think any of us remember that time as "bad" in any way.
 
Holepunch said:
I don't see why oblivion is so terrible. You no longer exist. Can you feel sad that you no longer exist? No. You're gone. You lost the capacity to feel sadness when you died. Regrets? Nope. You can regret while you're dying, to the millisecond before you die but once you're dead? No regrets. You're returning back to the time before you existed, and I don't think any of us remember that time as "bad" in any way.
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Indeed. And why is it so hard to comprehend?.. Just think of your memories from before you were born/ made. That's what's being dead is like. Nothing.

but don't worry, you're atoms will still exist.
 
I assume you're talking about my "If we don't remember our past life" comment. I wasn't saying that there is no point to life with reincarnation. I'm saying as far as I can tell if reincarnation is just a version of yourself in another person/species/whatever without memory of your past then it doesn't affect the life you're losing in any way.

If I'm wrong, and this kind of reincarnation exists, I don't care if I'm the only person who doesn't get reincarnated and neither should you.
 
The only thing I know is that I don't want to die drowned.. I don't have water panic or nothing like that.. but it's a way of dying that really creeps me.
 
RdN said:
The only thing I know is that I don't want to die drowned.. I don't have water panic or nothing like that.. but it's a way of dying that really creeps me.
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Are you fine with suffocating?
 
I'd love to die a horrible brutal death that makes people throw up when they see the pictures in the news. I also would prefer it if a lot of pain was involved. Because after all, if I'm gonna blip out, I might as well take some extreme experience with me, right?
 
wmat said:
I'd love to die a horrible brutal death that makes people throw up when they see the pictures in the news. I also would prefer it if a lot of pain was involved. Because after all, if I'm gonna blip out, I might as well take some extreme experience with me, right?
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No, that's pretty fucked up and most likely you won't be taking any experience with you since you cease to exist.

I hope I die in a completely comical manner though, so that I can get a few laughs even after I'm dead.
 
Wickerbasket said:
No, that's pretty fucked up and most likely you won't be taking any experience with you since you cease to exist.
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But experiencing the worst just before you die is the best moment for it. If you're curious enough, that's a pretty tempting prospect since it's the last chance to really go over the line in terms of what would be deemed fucked up. So why not then? Especially since it sounds like a realistic experiment, as opposed to, for example, experiencing your lifetime's pleasure highpoint.

So if you have a choice between a meh death and an ohmygodwhatthefuck death, why not go all out if it's over after that?
 
wmat said:
But experiencing the worst just before you die is the best moment for it. If you're curious enough, that's a pretty tempting prospect since it's the last chance to really go over the line in terms of what would be deemed fucked up. So why not then? Especially since it sounds like a realistic experiment, as opposed to, for example, experiencing your lifetime's pleasure highpoint.

So if you have a choice between a meh death and an ohmygodwhatthefuck death, why not go all out if it's over after that?
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I like your reasoning. I just don't want to experience pain before I'm out. Not only are you going to die, your going to have to suffer through awful shit beforehand.
 
McNei1y said:
I like your reasoning. I just don't want to experience pain before I'm out. Not only are you going to die, your going to have to suffer through awful shit beforehand.
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Well, you have a point. I was being facetious anyway.
 
I'd say the perfect way to die would be having a heart attack or similar while banging some super hot chick. Then I would feel as though it was totally worth it and die a happy man.
 
For the past 3 nights, I've had the same nightmare or what I perceive as so. So to defeat my will to fidgeting I have toothpicks and mess around with in my mouth. Anyways the past 3 nights I've had a these dreams...nightmares or whatever that I fall asleep with one in my mouth and accidentally swallow it. I then feel sharp pains in my throat and then wake breathing heavy. I know it's stupid to think but perhaps it's a premonition or some shit..I dunno.
 
jakncoke said:
For the past 3 nights, I've had the same nightmare or what I perceive as so. So to defeat my will to fidgeting I have toothpicks and mess around with in my mouth. Anyways the past 3 nights I've had a these dreams...nightmares or whatever that I fall asleep with one in my mouth and accidentally swallow it. I then feel sharp pains in my throat and then wake breathing heavy. I know it's stupid to think but perhaps it's a premonition or some shit..I dunno.
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Or maybe you're just reminding yourself not to do something really fucking stupid like fall asleep with a toothpick in your mouth.

Actually, no. That sounds pretty safe. You should totally do it.
 
Holepunch said:
This and other forms of reincarnation are always a mixed bag, in that I really can't see how any of them are very good. For example, do we remember our past life? How many other lives do we get to live out?

If we don't remember our past life: Then what is the point? If we lose all memory of our former life or lives then it might as well be a new person. The person you once were is completely dead, and the experience you receive would be the the same as a person who doesn't reincarnate and dies into oblivion.

If we do remember our past life: Then we're just shifting the dread. How many extra lives are we going to get? If we run out at any point eventually we're going to run into the same quagmire of "not wanting to die." If we get infinite lives and therefore eternal life we're just going to burn out as our mind exhausts itself as time stretches on indefinitely.

I don't see why oblivion is so terrible. You no longer exist. Can you feel sad that you no longer exist? No. You're gone. You lost the capacity to feel sadness when you died. Regrets? Nope. You can regret while you're dying, to the millisecond before you die but once you're dead? No regrets. You're returning back to the time before you existed, and I don't think any of us remember that time as "bad" in any way.
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I actually totally agree with you on the problems this presents as well as the others. It just seems like the better of the options. In the end though they all have they're drawbacks and you've hit them on the head. It is probably for the best that we simply cease to exist.
 
I am of the opinion that not everyone currently living today will die, some will live on for several hundreds, thousands or millions of years.
Death and non-existence isn't necessarily inevitable.
 
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