We already know about the launch titles for next generation consoles, don’t we?

No console device will ever succeed without FortNite, COD, Battlefield, Madden NFL, EA FC, and GTA6. SteamOS is basically dead once MS executes their strategy.

MS is doing open Platform, meaning even Sony PC store could be on Xbox hardware if Sony wanted.

This is end game convergence. Certain big publishers didn't allow MS to merge Xbox Consoles and Xbox on PC libraries completely, so MS had to rely on Play Anywhere, xCloud, Gamepass contracts, major acquisitions in order to support Xbox on PC. But with a hardware based universal platform, they can finally start to create the complete ecosystem they always wanted. Xbox Everywhere.

Plus Xbox Mobile Store too since Google lost their antitrust case twice.
This is scary tbh. Are they allowed to do this??

Still sound messy. Will they have full PC compatibility and full Xbox compatibility? How does that work? Can they go around hardware differences because it's an APU?

Sounds like Game Over for someone like me who's been hoping I can play the Xbox games in my library on a regular PC one day. Unless AMD shove in their Xbox silicone in a 9800X3D or whatever…
 
I'd add Physint (Kojima's new game) as a first-year PS6 title. I feel like Sony has big plans for the future of PlayStation with this one.
It's years away going by latest info that he's working on it himself and it's at a conceptual stage atm.
 
I don't understand this mindset, just play and enjoy what's out there and we'll cross this bridge when we get there.
We're talking about upcoming games all the time, this is the same thing but I'm just speculating that those we know about might slip over to next generation consoles.

Currently in between games though…
 
You're way too naive to think they gonna move to LoU3.
First off, LoU is both "part 1 and part 2" as they stupidly call.
They even slapped that shit as presentation for PS5 PRO lol
So I wouldn't be surprised if they relaunched that shit and call it "PS6 edition", because thats basically the only thing Naughty Dog do nowadays besides smelling their own farts.
 
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That's way more detailed info than I've heard before. Xbox Laptops? And I don't quite understand how they can have PC stores and hardware based console bc at the same time. Seems like a messy scenario to uphold full compatibility of both PC and console both from a hardware and software perspective.
And you mean that if Rockstar is holding off the PC release of GTA for a year then someone with that Xbox PC can still play it through the Xbox bc silicone of that new AMD APU?
Laptops are just one of the subset of PC form factor. There are AMD APU Gaming Laptops already..... Besides, the handheld and laptop form factors will share APUs.



You need to understand the difference between what a PC game and Xbox game is. That should help give you perspective.

Depending on how solid Xbox contracts are, yes, GTA6 should be playable on Xbox PCs. But I suspect, MS will show courtesy to Rockstar and let them Opt-Out until they do the full PC release. Or the publishers will stop caring since there's no additional work involved for them.

This is scary tbh. Are they allowed to do this??

Still sound messy. Will they have full PC compatibility and full Xbox compatibility? How does that work? Can they go around hardware differences because it's an APU?

Sounds like Game Over for someone like me who's been hoping I can play the Xbox games in my library on a regular PC one day. Unless AMD shove in their Xbox silicone in a 9800X3D or whatever…
They aren't doing anything illegal, lol.

Every Windows device already runs Windows SDK and GDK created games.
Even though the GCD (GPU die) component of the chip will have Xbox BC, since AMD plans to use same GCD for discrete GPUs, it won't be activated unless paired up with Ryzen CPU SOC.

So only Xbox designed AMD APUs, and Xbox certified, Xbox branded devices will get Console library BC for legal reasons. Thus the reason to call them Xbox PCs vs a regular PC. Only the form factor changes, the device will act just like another console.

Remember that it will be MS distributing the games based on hardware detected.
 
I'd add Physint (Kojima's new game) as a first-year PS6 title. I feel like Sony has big plans for the future of PlayStation with this one.
Physint isn't coming out three years from now during the first year of the PS6 lifecycle. There's a thread in here from a few days ago noting how Hideo Kojima claimed in an interview that for the time being he's the only one working on Physint at the studio -- the rest of them working on DS2 updates (plus some ports, probably) and OD.
 
Remember that it will be MS distributing the games based on hardware detected.
Your whole post is blowing my mind, two in one device, for real.
And this one bit is interesting. You click install and they'll push a download of the console version when there is no PC version or a dev had opted out? and then the PC version when such version exists?
Are there any power rumour for those APUs? Or is this the one Kepler/MLID are talking about?
 
Fair points!
But Intergalactic is such a big title for Naughty Dog and it takes forever to make games now, I'm thinking they'll time the releases with PS6 to not end up essentially sitting out the whole PS6 gen. Will be cross gen though. Goes for most games I assume.
Wolverine though, yeah I think that could come this gen. Iirc it was supposed to arrive in 2025 going by the Insomniac leak. Spider-Man 3 is next gen for sure.
You see I was thinking they would release Intergalactic before the ps6 and then later enhance it with like a 120 fps mode on the ps6 plus some extra graphical bells and whistles.
 
If I'm being honest, none of that is bringing out one bit of excitement in me..

Most of those studios have been making some right old dross that has personally turned me off them

Call it woke garbage, call it whatever you want. But they just don't appeal, which when thinking about it is pretty bad considering most of those titles had awsome beginnings, to me 🤷‍♂️
If Saros doesnt excite you if you Like the Genre / Style of returnal or similar Games.

I dont know what to Tell you. Its from one of the absolut top developer and had no signs of the Studio going down in Quality, atleast not yet.
 
New boxes are potentially arriving in 2026-2028. It takes 5+ years to make games now.

From a first party perspective, I'm thinking that some, if not all, games we already know about right now might be launch titles for new boxes rather than late generation titles.

Boring, I know, but it would make sense.
Could still have scaled back cross-generation versions too of course.

They'll probably spread them out, year 1-3, but these are all potential next gen titles now as I see it:


Xbox:
Fable
Forza Horizon 6
Gears of War E-Day
The Elder Scrolls VI (not likely)
State of Decay 3, if still in development, should be there too. Pretty much everything we know about, well except The Elder Scrolls VI I guess, could potentially be there near launch on the next Xbox.
No point wasting big titles on Series if rumours are true that a new Xbox will arrive in 2026-2027, right?
Halo ain't going to be there near launch this time though.
Maybe they'll have a new Wolfenstein?
What else is there?


PS6:
Saros
Wolverine
Intergalactic
The Last of Us 3 (no joke)
Those could be there for launch or first year on the next PlayStation if it arrives 2027-2028.
Maybe a new God of War too? Cory Barlog is working on a side story, should be for PS6, right?
Gran Turismo 8 would be big, or maybe GT Sports 2?
Horizon 3 is definitely coming.
Spider-Man 3 is known from the Insomniac leak.


Are there any big surprises that could pop up? Realistically. If so, what?

I'm thinking (hoping) that there is another Uncharted in development. They set it up perfectly both for another Lost Legacy and a continuation of main Uncharted. Needs to happen!
And Bloodborne Remake by Bluepoint.

And Rare can't just make Sea of Thieves. There HAS to be new Banjo, Conker or Viva Piñata coming, right? Another Oblivion-like remake project would be cool too. I wouldn't say no to Skyrim Remake!
Good thread but I think Xbox will be very cross gen by necessity and I expect the vast majority of Xbox games to launch on PS5 even if there is an Xbox Next gen version.


I expect at most 3 exclusives for Xbox Next launch window and everything else cross gen. But I would t be surprised if there's 0 next gen exclusives and everything is cross gen.
 
PS6:
Saros no idea on this one
Wolverine will release this gen
Intergalactic will release this gen
The Last of Us 3 (no joke) Next gen if it happens
Those could be there for launch or first year on the next PlayStation if it arrives 2027-2028.
Maybe a new God of War too? Cory Barlog is working on a side story, should be for PS6, right? Probably next gen. Don't they have another game they are working on
Gran Turismo 8 would be big, or maybe GT Sports 2? Next gen and totally forgot about this series
Horizon 3 is definitely coming. Next gen
Spider-Man 3 is known from the Insomniac leak. Cross-gen

Some fictional game that could happen from playstation
Bloodborne something this gen
astrobot 2 next gen
Ratchet and Clank will be next gen. I kind of figure they will start working on it after Wolverine.
Destiny 3 will be next gen. This makes sense to me. They can start working on this after Marathon bombs.


Xbox
Probably everything will be next gen since supposedly they are starting next gen early in order to beat the PS6 release supposedly.
Fable will most likely release this gen but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a cross-gen game.
Nah most games are gonna be cross gen because it'll all run on PS6 Handheld and the home console. PS6 handheld is weaker than base PS5 so if it can run a new game then so can the PS5. Even without the handheld the PS5 is way more competent than the PS4 was as a cross gen machine. The decent CPU in the PS5 means PS6 games at 30fps on PS5 could be possible.

Cross gen and multiplat is how they'll afford to keep making expensive games and if the PS4 is still getting games 12 years after its release expect the PS5 to hold out even longer thanks to its specs and the PS5 handheld.
 
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Good thread but I think Xbox will be very cross gen by necessity and I expect the vast majority of Xbox games to launch on PS5 even if there is an Xbox Next gen version.


I expect at most 3 exclusives for Xbox Next launch window and everything else cross gen. But I would t be surprised if there's 0 next gen exclusives and everything is cross gen.
Absolutely, I don't think anything will be exclusive to just Xbox. Except Gamepass, but that's on PC too even if not all games are there.

Nonetheless they'll still hype up their hardware through big games and fidelity and special features like everyone else. I'm thinking that Fable will be the big game at the launch of their dedicated console. That or Gears of War E-Day. I don't think it'll be Halo.
 
Nah most games are gonna be cross gen because it'll all run on PS6 Handheld and the home console. PS6 handheld is weaker than base PS5 so if it can run a new game then so can the PS5. Even without the handheld the PS5 is way more competent than the PS4 was as a cross gen machine. The decent CPU in the PS5 means PS6 games at 30fps on PS5 could be possible.

Cross gen and multiplat is how they'll afford to keep making expensive games and if the PS4 is still getting games 12 years after its release expect the PS5 to hold out even longer thanks to its specs and the PS5 handheld.
Totally forgot about the handheld. Even with that though I figure they would still try to make an enhanced version of intergalactic for the ps6 console. Here's a thought, the ps4 could be possibly supported all the way through the ps6 because of the switch 2, maybe not by Sony first party but by third party games and indies. I really wish they would rein in the budget of their games.
 
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Fable better come out this year. What you mean next gen?

I hope Sony turns it up to 11 for God of War and please for God Sake don't let it be Atreus-focused.
 
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Oh man, with the gen we're having, I'm absolutely absent for the next. PC and Switch 2 from now on. They would need an exclusive Igarashi Castlevania or something of this caliber to count me in.
 
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I think Wolverine is a title for next year. It won't launch alongside the new generation, but it'll probably get a later version with some upgrades for whatever features the PS6 ends up having.


I'd add Physint (Kojima's new game) as a first-year PS6 title. I feel like Sony has big plans for the future of PlayStation with this one.
Physint is just in its conceptual stage right now. It won't release until 2031 at the earliest, and by that time we'll already have a PS6 Pro.
 
Physint is just in its conceptual stage right now. It won't release until 2031 at the earliest, and by that time we'll already have a PS6 Pro.
I believe Physint is probably a 2028 game, and if it gets delayed, maybe 2029. Looking at Death Stranding as an example, Kojima only had the concept and made the trailer in 2016, and it released in 2019.

Since this is an IP under Sony's full control and seems to be part of some centralized multi-media plan from them, I think it's going to be a development project that Kojima Productions won't be working on alone. I'd even bet that someone like Guerrilla Games could be a co-developer, considering how close the studios already are and the fact that they use the same engine. It would make a lot of sense for them to work together on a new next-gen version.
 
I believe Physint is probably a 2028 game, and if it gets delayed, maybe 2029. Looking at Death Stranding as an example, Kojima only had the concept and made the trailer in 2016, and it released in 2019.

Since this is an IP under Sony's full control and seems to be part of some centralized multi-media plan from them, I think it's going to be a development project that Kojima Productions won't be working on alone. I'd even bet that someone like Guerrilla Games could be a co-developer, considering how close the studios already are and the fact that they use the same engine. It would make a lot of sense for them to work together on a new next-gen version.
Death Stranding should've been more ambitious and come out as a cross-gen PS5 launch title in 2020 per the initial agreement between Andrew House and Kojima, but once Worldwide Studios took over the project following House's exit as PlayStation CEO, Shawn Layden called into question the game's budget, slashed it and pushed the release forward by over a year -- making KJP have to compromise on their vision for the game.

And even then, it was a PS4 game after all. Its PS5 sequel took 50% more time to develop, all while building upon the foundation laid down by the original. With that in mind, don't expect a next-generation new IP in an entirely different genre such as Physint to come out any earlier than late 2030, as the absolute best case scenario.
 
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Death Stranding deveria ter sido mais ambicioso e lançado como um título de lançamento cross-gen do PS5 em 2020, conforme o acordo inicial entre Andrew House e Kojima, mas quando a Worldwide Studios assumiu o projeto após a saída de House como CEO do PlayStation, Shawn Layden questionou o orçamento do jogo, cortou-o e adiou o lançamento em mais de um ano, fazendo com que a KJP tivesse que comprometer sua visão para o jogo.

E mesmo assim, era um jogo de PS4, afinal. Sua sequência para PS5 levou 50% mais tempo para ser desenvolvida, tudo isso enquanto se baseava na base estabelecida pelo original. Com isso em mente, não espere que uma nova propriedade intelectual de próxima geração em um gênero totalmente diferente, como Physint, seja lançada antes do final de 2030, na melhor das hipóteses.
Where's that info from? I've always seen Death Stranding as the full realization of Kojima's vision with total creative freedom.

On top of that, Death Stranding had the challenge of being a project from a studio that was still being built from scratch, delivering a AAA experience in just 3 years was incredible. Now imagine what Kojima can pull off this time? I'd bet money that Physint will arrive before 2030.
 
Sony needs to return to the well and bring back some series they skipped this gen.
I'm honestly baffled how blind Totoki and the rest are to their older IPs they've put in cold storage. Some of them have some potential to achieve "classic" Disney longevity if done justice. The c-suite over in Japan only seems to be more preoccupied with the present rather than re-activating and re-evaluating the quality of their prior IPs that actually put the fucking company on the map in gaming. Like, wtf man.

I hope they prove me wrong and turn around this absolute creative shitshow that PS/Sony's first party has devolved into.
 
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Where's that info from? I've always seen Death Stranding as the full realization of Kojima's vision with total creative freedom.

On top of that, Death Stranding had the challenge of being a project from a studio that was still being built from scratch, delivering a AAA experience in just 3 years was incredible. Now imagine what Kojima can pull off this time? I'd bet money that Physint will arrive before 2030.
It is what it is. You'll find the various reports if you look for them, and like with MGSV (actually, much more), the art book serves as a very straightforward look into the remains of a troubled development cycle in terms of content and, in this case, worldbuilding and tone.

Just don't expect the current trend of projects becoming more sophisticated and complicated to make to suddenly go the exact opposite way for the case of Physint -- or any other tentpole first-party release for that matter -- it will only bring you disappointment.
 
I believe Physint is probably a 2028 game, and if it gets delayed, maybe 2029. Looking at Death Stranding as an example, Kojima only had the concept and made the trailer in 2016, and it released in 2019.
2028 is extremely wishful thinking. Kojima himself said that we won't see it release for another 5-6 years.

 
I'm honestly baffled how blind Totoki and the rest are to their older IPs they've put in cold storage. Some of them have some potential to achieve "classic" Disney longevity if done justice. The c-suite over in Japan only seems to be more preoccupied with the present rather than re-activating and re-evaluating the quality of their prior IPs that actually put the fucking company on the map in gaming. Like, wtf man.

I hope they prove me wrong and turn around this absolute creative shitshow that PS/Sony's first party has devolved into.

If it was me I would bring back resistance or socom from arrowhead. Get Killzone back and give horizon a break, bring back uncharted maybe, Twisted Metal should be brought back in some form. warhawk seems perfect for their gaas fix. There's so much more they could be doing. They can even forget about all those and really dig deep in the well. Bring Syphon Filter back, Siren, Sly Cooper, there's so much they can do. But what will they do, just more gaas bs, remasters, and recycled shit.
 
Totally forgot about the handheld. Even with that though I figure they would still try to make an enhanced version of intergalactic for the ps6 console. Here's a thought, the ps4 could be possibly supported all the way through the ps6 because of the switch 2, maybe not by Sony first party but by third party games and indies. I really wish they would rein in the budget of their games.
Yea I agree. With intergalactic there's a few ways they can go about it but them starting with a higher fps and res mode for PS6 mode like Sony did with Ghost of Tsushima, works. Knowing it's a naughty dog game I could see a PS6 remaster of sorts later tho, they love milking naughty dog games.
 
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There is no console coming out in 2026 that would be ridiculous. 2027 is already a joke as is. 2028 makes sense tho. I can see xbox coming out in 2027 and flopping. Then PS6 in 2028
 
Every PS6 game is going to be cross-gen. Have you all not realized that Sony will never go back to making gen-exclusive games until the very last possible time?

Quote me on this. Every single PS6 game from year 1 to year 3 will be cross-gen. I won't bet on year 4, but it's still likely.

Adding to that, several games will also come to the PS4.

Want to see what the true power of the PS6 can do? Wait until PS7 cross-gen games.
 
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Every PS6 game is going to be cross-gen. Have you all not realized that Sony will never go back to making gen-exclusive games until the very last possible time?

Quote me on this. Every single PS6 game from year 1 to year 3 will be cross-gen. I won't bet on year 4, but it's still likely.

Adding to that, several games will also come to the PS4.

Want to see what the true power of the PS6 can do? Wait until PS7 cross-gen games.
First year of the PS5 we got Demon's Souls Remake, Returnal, and Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart.

They'll also launch a free Astro Bot game that comes with every PS6 preinstalled to showcase its features.
 
First year of the PS5 we got Demon's Souls Remake, Returnal, and Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart.

They'll also launch a free Astro Bot game that comes with every PS6 preinstalled to showcase its features.

Yeah, but none of those games were something that makes you believe are a new thing for a next generation console. Demon's Souls looked great, but it's still a remake of a PS3 game.

When the PS3 launched every Sony game looked amazing and something that couldn't be possible on PS2. Then, when comparing the last games of the PS3 gen to launch games, it made them look like PS2 games in comparison.

The same happened with the PS4. Even from the start with inFamous Second Son, the games look way beyond the capabilities of the PS3.

With PS5, even today, many still look like pretty PS4 games. Game design hasn't changed, gameplay mechanics haven't evolved. They are just better PS4 games.

I blame this on two things:
1) The focus from players on 4K/60fps. They have made it clear that they don't care if the game has Mario 64 graphics, as long as it runs at 60 fps.

2) The complete disregard of physics engine vs graphics engine. Many games have beautiful graphics, but they lack interactions. Just look at games such as Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, where the grass is still. This sadly started during PS4 era. Uncharted 4 as amazing as it looked, when you move around the house, everything is stiff, like if it was a diorama.
 
... Xbox:
Halo ain't going to be there near launch this time though...
I'm starting to believe the next-generation Xbox will have the Halo: Combat Evolved remake as a launch-window title. It won't be next-gen only, but I believe it'll be pushed as a launch title for their next-gen console and used to shown off the graphical power it's got.
 
Wouldn't be surprised, and it's depressing to see games announced around the launch of current gen, to be just skipping this whole generation, and come out next gen. But then who guarantees us that they won't skip next gen, and be launch titles for next next gen? This is just fucked.
 
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PS6 is going to be functionally like a pc style upgrade. You'll be able to play the games good enough on your ps5. Then get a PS6 if you want them better.

For all the complaining about PS5 i dont think anyone wants to go back to PS4 for all those cross gen games.
 
I can definitely see most PS6 games with the handheld being on PS5.

I don't think Sony sells near the consoles next gen. The handheld might be the best seller.
 
I'm starting to believe the next-generation Xbox will have the Halo: Combat Evolved remake as a launch-window title. It won't be next-gen only, but I believe it'll be pushed as a launch title for their next-gen console and used to shown off the graphical power it's got.
Depends if it's coming early 2027 or late 2026. With a 2026 launch I think we would've heard more about it by now. It would be such a big title. They would probably want some regular gamer feedback this time considering how it went with Infinite where they relied on internal feedback.
 
Depends if it's coming early 2027 or late 2026. With a 2026 launch I think we would've heard more about it by now. It would be such a big title. They would probably want some regular gamer feedback this time considering how it went with Infinite where they relied on internal feedback.
Part of Joe Staten's contributions to 343i was to get them properly using player research and feedback, which was essentially absent for at least Halo Infinite. My understanding is that that process remains in place, so I would believe all future Halo Studios titles bare the fruits of his experience and those efforts.

With regards to hearing more, I'm not there's a point in a two-plus year hype cycle for a remake intended to push a console that hasn't been formally announced. You don't announce the remake until you're ready to announce the console it's pushing. Take a look at the sizzle reel included as part of 343i's rebranding video - that isn't going run on an Xbox Series X without cut backs, but they showed it off for a reason. I could be wrong of course, but I think Phil is aiming to get what he couldn't get with the Xbox Series X: he wants to launch a year ahead of PlayStation with a big impressive Halo title at launch to push it.
 
I could be wrong of course, but I think Phil is aiming to get what he couldn't get with the Xbox Series X: he wants to launch a year ahead of PlayStation with a big impressive Halo title at launch to push it.
It would make sense for sure, I'm just not sure they'll be ready for it.

But is this UE5 remake of H1 going to be seen as "a big impressive Halo"?
I'm thinking it'll at most be like Oblivion Remake. Great for fans, lots of nostalgia, but other gamers will think it's too old in it's structure. Plus, using UE5 is a risk…..
 
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