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[Fess]

No console device will ever succeed without FortNite, COD, Battlefield, Madden NFL, EA FC, and GTA6. SteamOS is basically dead once MS executes their strategy.

MS is doing open Platform, meaning even Sony PC store could be on Xbox hardware if Sony wanted.

This is end game convergence. Certain big publishers didn't allow MS to merge Xbox Consoles and Xbox on PC libraries completely, so MS had to rely on Play Anywhere, xCloud, Gamepass contracts, major acquisitions in order to support Xbox on PC. But with a hardware based universal platform, they can finally start to create the complete ecosystem they always wanted. Xbox Everywhere.

Plus Xbox Mobile Store too since Google lost their antitrust case twice.

This is scary tbh. Are they allowed to do this??

Still sound messy. Will they have full PC compatibility and full Xbox compatibility? How does that work? Can they go around hardware differences because it's an APU?

Sounds like Game Over for someone like me who's been hoping I can play the Xbox games in my library on a regular PC one day. Unless AMD shove in their Xbox silicone in a 9800X3D or whatever…

 

[Fess]

I'd add Physint (Kojima's new game) as a first-year PS6 title. I feel like Sony has big plans for the future of PlayStation with this one.

It's years away going by latest info that he's working on it himself and it's at a conceptual stage atm.

 

[Fess]

I don't understand this mindset, just play and enjoy what's out there and we'll cross this bridge when we get there.

We're talking about upcoming games all the time, this is the same thing but I'm just speculating that those we know about might slip over to next generation consoles.

Currently in between games though…

 

[Saber]

You're way too naive to think they gonna move to LoU3.
First off, LoU is both "part 1 and part 2" as they stupidly call.
They even slapped that shit as presentation for PS5 PRO lol
So I wouldn't be surprised if they relaunched that shit and call it "PS6 edition", because thats basically the only thing Naughty Dog do nowadays besides smelling their own farts.

 

[Danjin44]

People already asking for PS6?

 

[hussar16]

So what's point of ps5 when all the ps games are just cross gen ps4 games. This gen is ass. I hota wait for real ps5 exclusives on ps6

 

[Tobimacoss]

That's way more detailed info than I've heard before. Xbox Laptops? And I don't quite understand how they can have PC stores and hardware based console bc at the same time. Seems like a messy scenario to uphold full compatibility of both PC and console both from a hardware and software perspective.
And you mean that if Rockstar is holding off the PC release of GTA for a year then someone with that Xbox PC can still play it through the Xbox bc silicone of that new AMD APU?

Laptops are just one of the subset of PC form factor. There are AMD APU Gaming Laptops already..... Besides, the handheld and laptop form factors will share APUs.

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Rumor Hype  Post in thread '[MLID] Zen 6 Magnus Leak: AMD's MASSIVE APU for next gen console (+ Medusa Point Specs)'

Wednesday at 8:55 AM

Consoles use Game Development Kit. (GDK)
Win32 is restricted to PC games only.

Next-gen is expected to remove GDK and use just Win32.

Really, you are going to quote jez corden article, who is clueless, rather than going directly to the source? The GDK is Win32 based. Jez is right but 6 years too late.

GitHub - microsoft/GDK: Microsoft Public GDK

Microsoft Public GDK. Contribute to microsoft/GDK development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

"The GDK is an evolution to the Win32 legacy, to unify the app model between Xbox consoles, Windows PCs, and now Cloud Gaming to enable game developers to reach even more gamers on more devices, with less...

• Tobimacoss

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You need to understand the difference between what a PC game and Xbox game is. That should help give you perspective.

Depending on how solid Xbox contracts are, yes, GTA6 should be playable on Xbox PCs. But I suspect, MS will show courtesy to Rockstar and let them Opt-Out until they do the full PC release. Or the publishers will stop caring since there's no additional work involved for them.

This is scary tbh. Are they allowed to do this??

Still sound messy. Will they have full PC compatibility and full Xbox compatibility? How does that work? Can they go around hardware differences because it's an APU?

Sounds like Game Over for someone like me who's been hoping I can play the Xbox games in my library on a regular PC one day. Unless AMD shove in their Xbox silicone in a 9800X3D or whatever…

They aren't doing anything illegal, lol.

Every Windows device already runs Windows SDK and GDK created games.
Even though the GCD (GPU die) component of the chip will have Xbox BC, since AMD plans to use same GCD for discrete GPUs, it won't be activated unless paired up with Ryzen CPU SOC.

So only Xbox designed AMD APUs, and Xbox certified, Xbox branded devices will get Console library BC for legal reasons. Thus the reason to call them Xbox PCs vs a regular PC. Only the form factor changes, the device will act just like another console.

Remember that it will be MS distributing the games based on hardware detected.

 

[Perrott]

I'd add Physint (Kojima's new game) as a first-year PS6 title. I feel like Sony has big plans for the future of PlayStation with this one.

Physint isn't coming out three years from now during the first year of the PS6 lifecycle. There's a thread in here from a few days ago noting how Hideo Kojima claimed in an interview that for the time being he's the only one working on Physint at the studio -- the rest of them working on DS2 updates (plus some ports, probably) and OD.

 

[Fess]

Remember that it will be MS distributing the games based on hardware detected.

Your whole post is blowing my mind, two in one device, for real.
And this one bit is interesting. You click install and they'll push a download of the console version when there is no PC version or a dev had opted out? and then the PC version when such version exists?
Are there any power rumour for those APUs? Or is this the one Kepler/MLID are talking about?

 

[NahaNago]

Fair points!
But Intergalactic is such a big title for Naughty Dog and it takes forever to make games now, I'm thinking they'll time the releases with PS6 to not end up essentially sitting out the whole PS6 gen. Will be cross gen though. Goes for most games I assume.
Wolverine though, yeah I think that could come this gen. Iirc it was supposed to arrive in 2025 going by the Insomniac leak. Spider-Man 3 is next gen for sure.

You see I was thinking they would release Intergalactic before the ps6 and then later enhance it with like a 120 fps mode on the ps6 plus some extra graphical bells and whistles.

 

[Akuji]

If I'm being honest, none of that is bringing out one bit of excitement in me..

Most of those studios have been making some right old dross that has personally turned me off them

Call it woke garbage, call it whatever you want. But they just don't appeal, which when thinking about it is pretty bad considering most of those titles had awsome beginnings, to me

If Saros doesnt excite you if you Like the Genre / Style of returnal or similar Games.

I dont know what to Tell you. Its from one of the absolut top developer and had no signs of the Studio going down in Quality, atleast not yet.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

New boxes are potentially arriving in 2026-2028. It takes 5+ years to make games now.

From a first party perspective, I'm thinking that some, if not all, games we already know about right now might be launch titles for new boxes rather than late generation titles.

Boring, I know, but it would make sense.
Could still have scaled back cross-generation versions too of course.

They'll probably spread them out, year 1-3, but these are all potential next gen titles now as I see it:


Xbox:
Fable
Forza Horizon 6
Gears of War E-Day
The Elder Scrolls VI (not likely)
State of Decay 3, if still in development, should be there too. Pretty much everything we know about, well except The Elder Scrolls VI I guess, could potentially be there near launch on the next Xbox.
No point wasting big titles on Series if rumours are true that a new Xbox will arrive in 2026-2027, right?
Halo ain't going to be there near launch this time though.
Maybe they'll have a new Wolfenstein?
What else is there?


PS6:
Saros
Wolverine
Intergalactic
The Last of Us 3 (no joke)
Those could be there for launch or first year on the next PlayStation if it arrives 2027-2028.
Maybe a new God of War too? Cory Barlog is working on a side story, should be for PS6, right?
Gran Turismo 8 would be big, or maybe GT Sports 2?
Horizon 3 is definitely coming.
Spider-Man 3 is known from the Insomniac leak.


Are there any big surprises that could pop up? Realistically. If so, what?

I'm thinking (hoping) that there is another Uncharted in development. They set it up perfectly both for another Lost Legacy and a continuation of main Uncharted. Needs to happen!
And Bloodborne Remake by Bluepoint.

And Rare can't just make Sea of Thieves. There HAS to be new Banjo, Conker or Viva Piñata coming, right? Another Oblivion-like remake project would be cool too. I wouldn't say no to Skyrim Remake!

Good thread but I think Xbox will be very cross gen by necessity and I expect the vast majority of Xbox games to launch on PS5 even if there is an Xbox Next gen version.


I expect at most 3 exclusives for Xbox Next launch window and everything else cross gen. But I would t be surprised if there's 0 next gen exclusives and everything is cross gen.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

We haven't even launched this gen yet

Its been half a decade since the Gen started, time to move with the times Grandpa.

 

[Gameplay Gods Bless]

PS6:
Saros no idea on this one
Wolverine will release this gen
Intergalactic will release this gen
The Last of Us 3 (no joke) Next gen if it happens
Those could be there for launch or first year on the next PlayStation if it arrives 2027-2028.
Maybe a new God of War too? Cory Barlog is working on a side story, should be for PS6, right? Probably next gen. Don't they have another game they are working on
Gran Turismo 8 would be big, or maybe GT Sports 2? Next gen and totally forgot about this series
Horizon 3 is definitely coming. Next gen
Spider-Man 3 is known from the Insomniac leak. Cross-gen

Some fictional game that could happen from playstation
Bloodborne something this gen
astrobot 2 next gen
Ratchet and Clank will be next gen. I kind of figure they will start working on it after Wolverine.
Destiny 3 will be next gen. This makes sense to me. They can start working on this after Marathon bombs.


Xbox
Probably everything will be next gen since supposedly they are starting next gen early in order to beat the PS6 release supposedly.
Fable will most likely release this gen but I wouldn't be surprised if it is a cross-gen game.

Nah most games are gonna be cross gen because it'll all run on PS6 Handheld and the home console. PS6 handheld is weaker than base PS5 so if it can run a new game then so can the PS5. Even without the handheld the PS5 is way more competent than the PS4 was as a cross gen machine. The decent CPU in the PS5 means PS6 games at 30fps on PS5 could be possible.

Cross gen and multiplat is how they'll afford to keep making expensive games and if the PS4 is still getting games 12 years after its release expect the PS5 to hold out even longer thanks to its specs and the PS5 handheld.

 

[Fess]

Good thread but I think Xbox will be very cross gen by necessity and I expect the vast majority of Xbox games to launch on PS5 even if there is an Xbox Next gen version.


I expect at most 3 exclusives for Xbox Next launch window and everything else cross gen. But I would t be surprised if there's 0 next gen exclusives and everything is cross gen.

Absolutely, I don't think anything will be exclusive to just Xbox. Except Gamepass, but that's on PC too even if not all games are there.

Nonetheless they'll still hype up their hardware through big games and fidelity and special features like everyone else. I'm thinking that Fable will be the big game at the launch of their dedicated console. That or Gears of War E-Day. I don't think it'll be Halo.

 

[Paasei]

You forget GTA 6

And also for the following 3 generations to come after.

 

[Sephimoth]

Its been half a decade since the Gen started, time to move with the times Grandpa.

Coulda fooled me. Sony and Microsoft just chilling

 

[NahaNago]

Nah most games are gonna be cross gen because it'll all run on PS6 Handheld and the home console. PS6 handheld is weaker than base PS5 so if it can run a new game then so can the PS5. Even without the handheld the PS5 is way more competent than the PS4 was as a cross gen machine. The decent CPU in the PS5 means PS6 games at 30fps on PS5 could be possible.

Cross gen and multiplat is how they'll afford to keep making expensive games and if the PS4 is still getting games 12 years after its release expect the PS5 to hold out even longer thanks to its specs and the PS5 handheld.

Totally forgot about the handheld. Even with that though I figure they would still try to make an enhanced version of intergalactic for the ps6 console. Here's a thought, the ps4 could be possibly supported all the way through the ps6 because of the switch 2, maybe not by Sony first party but by third party games and indies. I really wish they would rein in the budget of their games.