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Welcome to Night Vale [Mafia] |OT| The Dog Park will not harm you

Why do I get the feeling that Darklighter is part of some long con set in motion by RetroMG years ago that he's only making good on now...
 

Fireblend

Banned
Fire; sorry for ignoring! But that tactic on me won't work in this game. Pressure won't get to me cause the Institute already took my son and I don't have anything to lose!

Well, I agree you shouldn't see my vote as a threat because as everyone is well aware, a single vote with no traction won't do anything. See it as an opportunity to provide some more thoughts and impressions on the game.

About Scrafty, she might well be flying under the radar. I fear for the town that's up against scum-Scrafty. Keeping her vote on Darklight would strike me as scummy if he doesn't show up and the vote stays there or if Scrafty actually attempted to get a bandwagon going, but as it stands some pressure on a newbie isn't that bad.
 

gryvan

Member
Hmm... Prolly, like, gryvan. He took like, a really long time to show up and then like, placed the world's safest vote. I mean, like, why would you vote that way when it's suuuuuuuper clear that that's totally not gonna happen?

I had stuff to do irl hence why I had some delays and I can't randomly point fingers at people without sounding like its fluff and without reading into it too much
 

Warxard

Banned
You poke in and out so I'm going to go with a more direct question. Just off your interpretation of the thread right now, give me your two most suspicious individuals and which of the two would you vote for if I was holding you down and saying that the time is now?

Honestly?

Unmasked Ferret - It's been stated before but s/he seems to be taking the ongoing stack of accusations towards him/her much too casually. Of course, it's perfectly fine to assume s/he may actually be innocent thus the passiveness could be justified. At the same time, there's very little to go with right now so i'm naturally loading that character in my chamber of options.

Sorian (dude that's you!) - I guess you've been admant on pressing against my (admittedly) in and out phasing into the conversation and, for some reason, not to the other posters with similar posting patterns (Trigger for example.). It's...intimidating! Then again, my update count in the thread is low here so I suppose your accusations are justified. Still,

don't bully!!!
 

Ty4on

Member
In an effort to get conversation flowing from another angle. What are peoples thoughts on Seath?
*crickets*
it's not based on their interactions, just two separate reads.

I'll add that in the circle of Ultra Jay, Boo Boo'n and Sorian, there is also a mafia.
I'm not quite as sure as you, but:
Razmos - Fluffy
Trigger - Fluffy
Ultra Jay - Too agreeable, doesn't want to stick out one way or the other
Sorian seems a bit too soft, but this is my first game with him. Reminds me a little of Czar in DR.
Boo Boo'n is a null for me.
Well I'm new so I really don't have anything else against anyone atm. I don't want to read too into it either until like the 2nd day of the game (not real life 2nd day). And I guess since some of you have experience from previous seasons of mafia, its also the reason why you want to lynch people earlier due to events that happened previously (I went through most people's posts in this thread so I got a bit confused on some references that may or may have happened before).
Nah, we want to lynch someone D1 to turn the heat up and see voting patterns. When we later in the game (hopefully) lynch our first mafia it can be very helpful to see how other people interacted with them. Without any pressure we're basically throwing D1 away and giving mafia the first move for free.
Why do I get the feeling that Darklighter is part of some long con set in motion by RetroMG years ago that he's only making good on now...
Welcome!

You don't exist.

You are aligned with no one.

Your goal is to survive to the end with everybody believing that you exist, even though you don't. For every five posts that mention your name you will be able to post one post.

Because you don't exist you can't be killed at night, but if you're lynched people will stop believing you exist.

Have fun!
 
Welcome!

You don't exist.

You are aligned with no one.

Your goal is to survive to the end with everybody believing that you exist, even though you don't. For every five posts that mention your name you will be able to post one post.

Because you don't exist you can't be killed at night, but if you're lynched people will stop believing you exist.

Have fun!

Sad part is that this would totally fit the theme of this game...
 

Kevyt

Member
Hey all! Sorry I don't have internet, only through my cell so its going to be hard, but I'm still here! o/

I'm trying to see how to enable 100ppp in mobile gaf in the meantime so that it's easier for me.

At this stage I really don't know who to vote for given that it's just day 1.

I'll be just observing I guess.
 

Sorian

Banned
Well I'm new so I really don't have anything else against anyone atm. I don't want to read too into it either until like the 2nd day of the game (not real life 2nd day). And I guess since some of you have experience from previous seasons of mafia, its also the reason why you want to lynch people earlier due to events that happened previously (I went through most people's posts in this thread so I got a bit confused on some references that may or may have happened before).

So I will start changing my vote

UNVOTE: Sorian

like so

and then I will do

VOTE: No Lynch


for now as a serious vote.

Of course you can read into what I posted until your eyes pop out :D

I wouldn't read too much into what people are saying about past games. Some of us do know each other so we have some bias on personalities but everything you need should be on full display in this thread. If I removed No lynch from you as an option is there anyone at all that you find suspicious enough to remove from the game?

The claim of being an ordinary night vale citizen right after trigger was accused of being mafia by squidy? Or did I miss another claim? It's not really unprompted at that point :p

Eh, Coppa, I think you are mafia, I'm not going to place a vote on you though.

Do you think you should role claim now? Doubt it.

Just gonna say that I'm probably gonna remain fairly quiet for the rest of the first day unless something big happens. Gonna keep my vote on Scrafty, since, even with characters being part of her schtick, I do have a feeling that her going all-in on the dumb tourist character might be used to obfuscate her true intentions...

You need to step up a bit, also I find it odd that you are worried about Scrafty here when her character act didn't seem to bother you in MGS.

Well, I agree you shouldn't see my vote as a threat because as everyone is well aware, a single vote with no traction won't do anything. See it as an opportunity to provide some more thoughts and impressions on the game.

About Scrafty, she might well be flying under the radar. I fear for the town that's up against scum-Scrafty. Keeping her vote on Darklight would strike me as scummy if he doesn't show up and the vote stays there or if Scrafty actually attempted to get a bandwagon going, but as it stands some pressure on a newbie isn't that bad.

I don't. Scum Scrafty got rekt :p

Sorian seems a bit too soft, but this is my first game with him. Reminds me a little of Czar in DR.

I very much wish I had an override power. I've always dreamed of getting that one. But seriously, am I actually acting softer? I'm doing the best I can to pressure with what I have. The pace is finally starting to pick up a bit so I can actually get on people.
 

Sorian

Banned
Honestly?

Unmasked Ferret - It's been stated before but s/he seems to be taking the ongoing stack of accusations towards him/her much too casually. Of course, it's perfectly fine to assume s/he may actually be innocent thus the passiveness could be justified. At the same time, there's very little to go with right now so i'm naturally loading that character in my chamber of options.

Sorian (dude that's you!) - I guess you've been admant on pressing against my (admittedly) in and out phasing into the conversation and, for some reason, not to the other posters with similar posting patterns (Trigger for example.). It's...intimidating! Then again, my update count in the thread is low here so I suppose your accusations are justified. Still,

don't bully!!!

Meant to quote this too. You didn't answer my last question. Me or Ferret, who do you vote for? Who is scummier to you?
 

gryvan

Member
I wouldn't read too much into what people are saying about past games. Some of us do know each other so we have some bias on personalities but everything you need should be on full display in this thread. If I removed No lynch from you as an option is there anyone at all that you find suspicious enough to remove from the game?

currently none atm. I kinda need to get a bit deeper into the game...but then again if i get whacked in the 1st night then rip me!
 

UltraJay

Member
unmasked ferret has responded enough about all the votes on him so I'll get off the bandwagon. I had others that I wanted to respond more (and they all came back and did one post about "not going to post much on Day 1" shrugging off any inactivity and fluff posts) but I will change my vote to one in particular:

VOTE: Pop-O-Matic

Your initial vote was not RNG but on Scrafty "because fuck tourists" and now you are keeping it thinking that it is a disguise. Is it because as a townie it seems she is painting too big of a target on her back? That she is unfazed by it? I wanna hear more about this.

And since I was big on people responding to being mentioned or voted on I'll need to respond to this:

Ultra Jay - Too agreeable, doesn't want to stick out one way or the other

I'm guessing my agreeable nature is because this is my first game of GAFia. That and I wasn't sure how exactly to "read" posts and finding everyone's arguments (especially Fireblend's and Sorien's) very convincing - causing me to sway my vote.

I'm going to have to thank you Ty4on. For pointing this out you've convinced me to be slightly more aggressive (as above) and to stand by my convictions instead of being pulled around by everyone else.
 

UltraJay

Member
Not too aggressive, mind you, as it is only the first day and there really isn't anything concrete to go on. Day 2 hopefully should have some more ammo.


[ASIDE]
I knew it. I wake up, get through all the posts, respond, and the thread has died. I stayed up too late last night as it is.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'm actually here, just busy on my other monitor, haven't even read your longer post, just saw you saying that the thread is dead, I'll probably be more able to respond in like an hour.
 

squidyj

Member
Okay. so I think I just want to play Fallout until I pass out so I'm going to talk about my reads now instead of later on, even though I haven't heard anything more from Trigger, sadly.

For both of these players what I noticed was a preoccupation with being noticed rather than contributing, I can't think of a single thing Trigger has done that I would call contributive, it's a lot of hemming and hawing and just making sure to remain visible as opposed to chiming in with contributions for town. Trigger pushed me over the edge with the post about roles where it seemed like Trigger wasn't really paying attention to the game because we had just covered that ground. Then there's that "I am town" post. I expect that sort of general response to being accused, especially early on when there's not a lot of content to discuss, it's just with this post the phrasing and the flatness of it rub me the wrong way, which isn't very scientific (sorry carlos) but it does not make me like Trigger more.

It's the same way with respect to an obsession with being visible for Razmos except Razmos makes the entire exercise explicit in his posts so I'm less sure how to read that. Last game we played together Razmos was scum and had a strong reaction to being pressured so I thought it would be a good idea to push him a little bit. His reaction is obviously very different but it's also really weird because in it he figuratively says "I am not being genuine, I am faking my reaction because I do not want to be lynched"
It's possible he's town and he's just being incredibly gun-shy because I find it kind of hard to believe that a mafia player would be so obvious about their intentions, but at the same time it's very weird, and very image-conscious play and it tends to be mafia who is worried about LOOKING town and town that is worried about hunting mafia IMO.

As for the other three, it all comes down to the bandwagoning and sequence of events but I might be reading too much into it.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Eh, Coppa, I think you are mafia, I'm not going to place a vote on you though.

Do you think you should role claim now? Doubt it.

Fair enough, I'll agree Trigger's response was rather knee jerk and extreme. I was trying to say moreso that it was provoked and a result of Squidy's comment, rather than something he said that made Squidy suspicious.

Also, for clarification: Are you actually saying you think I'm mafia here? Or is that simply an example to argue a point?

I have a feeling it's the latter, but I want to make it perfectly clear.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Okay. so I think I just want to play Fallout until I pass out so I'm going to talk about my reads now instead of later on, even though I haven't heard anything more from Trigger, sadly.

For both of these players what I noticed was a preoccupation with being noticed rather than contributing, I can't think of a single thing Trigger has done that I would call contributive, it's a lot of hemming and hawing and just making sure to remain visible as opposed to chiming in with contributions for town. Trigger pushed me over the edge with the post about roles where it seemed like Trigger wasn't really paying attention to the game because we had just covered that ground. Then there's that "I am town" post. I expect that sort of general response to being accused, especially early on when there's not a lot of content to discuss, it's just with this post the phrasing and the flatness of it rub me the wrong way, which isn't very scientific (sorry carlos) but it does not make me like Trigger more.

It's the same way with respect to an obsession with being visible for Razmos except Razmos makes the entire exercise explicit in his posts so I'm less sure how to read that. Last game we played together Razmos was scum and had a strong reaction to being pressured so I thought it would be a good idea to push him a little bit. His reaction is obviously very different but it's also really weird because in it he figuratively says "I am not being genuine, I am faking my reaction because I do not want to be lynched"
It's possible he's town and he's just being incredibly gun-shy because I find it kind of hard to believe that a mafia player would be so obvious about their intentions, but at the same time it's very weird, and very image-conscious play and it tends to be mafia who is worried about LOOKING town and town that is worried about hunting mafia IMO.

As for the other three, it all comes down to the bandwagoning and sequence of events but I might be reading too much into it.

Interesting. So it's more of their behavior being similar that links them rather than anything they've done together correct? I could certainly see that as odd, and failing a better candidate, there's at least room for suspicion which is more than can be said for a lot of people playing.

The bandwagon thing is worth pointing out, though it's also early enough in the game that I could see it as a beneficial play rather than malevolence.
 

UltraJay

Member
Can someone explain to me exactly what "fluffy entails? Stuff like the cute coyotes that doesn't contribute to anything?

If Pop makes his case I might switch over to Trigger. Mike was up there but he responded and I'd like to hear more of gryvan's thoughts even though I know he's busy.
 

Sorian

Banned
I'm going to have to thank you Ty4on. For pointing this out you've convinced me to be slightly more aggressive (as above) and to stand by my convictions instead of being pulled around by everyone else.

I'm just going to give you advice outside of the game for a minute here. You don't know my alignment, I don't know your alignment, neither of us know Ty4on's alignment so forget all that because this is just player to player advice. Don't look up to anybody in this game. I've seen in the past people get blinded because they respect someone who ended up being scum against their town. It's good to listen to advice but don't take my word or Fireblend's word or Ty4on's word for gospel in every subject. Not saying you will but its good advice to remember.

Okay. so I think I just want to play Fallout until I pass out so I'm going to talk about my reads now instead of later on, even though I haven't heard anything more from Trigger, sadly.

For both of these players what I noticed was a preoccupation with being noticed rather than contributing, I can't think of a single thing Trigger has done that I would call contributive, it's a lot of hemming and hawing and just making sure to remain visible as opposed to chiming in with contributions for town. Trigger pushed me over the edge with the post about roles where it seemed like Trigger wasn't really paying attention to the game because we had just covered that ground. Then there's that "I am town" post. I expect that sort of general response to being accused, especially early on when there's not a lot of content to discuss, it's just with this post the phrasing and the flatness of it rub me the wrong way, which isn't very scientific (sorry carlos) but it does not make me like Trigger more.

It's the same way with respect to an obsession with being visible for Razmos except Razmos makes the entire exercise explicit in his posts so I'm less sure how to read that. Last game we played together Razmos was scum and had a strong reaction to being pressured so I thought it would be a good idea to push him a little bit. His reaction is obviously very different but it's also really weird because in it he figuratively says "I am not being genuine, I am faking my reaction because I do not want to be lynched"
It's possible he's town and he's just being incredibly gun-shy because I find it kind of hard to believe that a mafia player would be so obvious about their intentions, but at the same time it's very weird, and very image-conscious play and it tends to be mafia who is worried about LOOKING town and town that is worried about hunting mafia IMO.

As for the other three, it all comes down to the bandwagoning and sequence of events but I might be reading too much into it.

This is a fair at least, I thought you were going to be reaching on Razmos and Trigger but this logic is sound to me, it at least explains my gut feel on Trigger, will need to think on if I feel the same on Razmos, I don't think I do as of now.

Also, for clarification: Are you actually saying you think I'm mafia here? Or is that simply an example to argue a point?

I have a feeling it's the latter, but I want to make it perfectly clear.

It was just an example, I have good feels on you so far but I did in MGS too so that might not matter much.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Can someone explain to me exactly what "fluffy entails? Stuff like the cute coyotes that doesn't contribute to anything?

If Pop makes his case I might switch over to Trigger. Mike was up there but he responded and I'd like to hear more of gryvan's thoughts even though I know he's busy.

Yup, fluff is basically just posts that don't contribute much. If someone goes off and spends 10 posts talking about how much they loved the latest Night Vale Podcast, or is just making comments about the flavor, it's considered fluff. It's not necessarily a bad thing in itself (after all, we're all just having fun here), but if you only post fluff and never actually contribute anything to the conversation, it's not very helpful to town winning.
 

Sorian

Banned
Can someone explain to me exactly what "fluffy entails? Stuff like the cute coyotes that doesn't contribute to anything?

If Pop makes his case I might switch over to Trigger. Mike was up there but he responded and I'd like to hear more of gryvan's thoughts even though I know he's busy.

Fluff is our word for when people only post like flavor text or jokes and stuff and that's it, so non game talk.
 

UltraJay

Member
If that's the case then Scrafty was pretty big on the fluff as well until her last few posts. The fact that she is still on Darklighter even now doesn't sit right with me.

Though... I really just want to hear Darklighter speak. I also wish that fake "Doesn't exist" role really was a thing. That'd be pretty cool.
 

Sorian

Banned
If that's the case then Scrafty was pretty big on the fluff as well until her last few posts. The fact that she is still on Darklighter even now doesn't sit right with me.

Though... I really just want to hear Darklighter speak. I also wish that fake "Doesn't exist" role really was a thing. That'd be pretty cool.

Scrafty gets a weird pass in this kind of stuff because she plays a different character for each game of mafia. She has to prove herself through actions as opposed to through words but if you pay attention she does actually say enough in her own words. There are some people like that. Have mercy if you ever play with Blarg.
 

Trigger

Member
Oh my. I went to work so I'm just catching back up with all the discussion.

Usually when someone tells me they are a member of town, I get a bit suspicious. I don't really care that you tell me that you're town because everyone will say they are a member of town, that's the game. Now it was in response to a post where someone called him mafia so I guess it's a fair reaction since both sides of the coin seemed to have no evidence but my real issue is that he said he is an ordinary member of night vale. Maybe I'm reading to much into it.

You are. My post was simply a tongue in cheek joke. It wasn't a serious role claim. In all fairness, I should've been more sensitive to use of the word "ordinary", but I don't think my reaction was in any way extreme or suspicious. Someone flatly called me a member of the mafia, and I responded that I'm not.

For both of these players what I noticed was a preoccupation with being noticed rather than contributing, I can't think of a single thing Trigger has done that I would call contributive, it's a lot of hemming and hawing and just making sure to remain visible as opposed to chiming in with contributions for town. Trigger pushed me over the edge with the post about roles where it seemed like Trigger wasn't really paying attention to the game because we had just covered that ground.

There's no intentional strategy in this, just clumsy playing. I'm still finding the balance in being proactive and thoughtful. I rushed to post without reading some of the posts closely enough. The fact that the topic of roles had already been discussed was an oversight on my part.

Then there's that "I am town" post. I expect that sort of general response to being accused, especially early on when there's not a lot of content to discuss, it's just with this post the phrasing and the flatness of it rub me the wrong way, which isn't very scientific (sorry carlos) but it does not make me like Trigger more.

As I said above, I wasn't being very thoughtful of my phrasing.
 
Honestly?

Unmasked Ferret - It's been stated before but s/he seems to be taking the ongoing stack of accusations towards him/her much too casually. Of course, it's perfectly fine to assume s/he may actually be innocent thus the passiveness could be justified. At the same time, there's very little to go with right now so i'm naturally loading that character in my chamber of options.

Sorian (dude that's you!) - I guess you've been admant on pressing against my (admittedly) in and out phasing into the conversation and, for some reason, not to the other posters with similar posting patterns (Trigger for example.). It's...intimidating! Then again, my update count in the thread is low here so I suppose your accusations are justified. Still,

don't bully!!!

I'm just going to say that I wouldn't really call what happened to me accusations getting stacked. It was mostly just random votes and pressure votes, in fact there were no accusations which is probably why I came off as passive as there was not really anything to react to. There was the thing about not responding to Squidy, but I really don't know that it was something to worry much about and have since explained it, and the vote that was put on me at that time seems more like it was to get my attention than to actually be used against me.

I also wouldn't be too concerned with Sorian pressing you with questions, he does that. You may feel that he went after you specifically, and maybe he did, but he probably just saw you were around and thought he would prod a bit.

but I will change my vote to one in particular:

VOTE: Pop-O-Matic

Your initial vote was not RNG but on Scrafty "because fuck tourists" and now you are keeping it thinking that it is a disguise. Is it because as a townie it seems she is painting too big of a target on her back? That she is unfazed by it? I wanna hear more about this.

I'm glad you brought this up since it was sort of bothering me. And I would also like to hear back from Pop. I also kinda want to know how he thinks Scrafty would hide behind her persona. Is it a matter of how she mixes in the fluff with what she actually wants to say, or is it purely a matter of the fluff itself being so core to her play style?

Scrafty gets a weird pass in this kind of stuff because she plays a different character for each game of mafia. She has to prove herself through actions as opposed to through words but if you pay attention she does actually say enough in her own words. There are some people like that. Have mercy if you ever play with Blarg.

Off topic: Blarg is great to read but it seems like a chore to actually have him in your game.
On topic: Scrafty really does a good job of balancing the fluff with in between the lines important thoughts, but I can see how some people maybe can't get over it since sometimes it can be sorta in your face (especially with the current character). This doesn't affect my current questions towards Pop.

I'm not going to comment on the Squidy v Trigger/Razmos thing now because I want to review their post and I see that while I typed all the rest of this Trigger replied.

Also I'm sure Royal_Flush has probably guessed but I'm going to leave my vote on him until I think it could actually be useful elsewhere.
 

UltraJay

Member
I guess I'll give it a go with people I want to hear from, i.e. low posters that I have noticed that are sorta kinda under the radar and/or aren't receiving votes to prod them or at least get them into a discussion:

Karu: Didn't know how to use highlights and used the wheel to vote for Scrafty. Probably sleeping/playing Fallout 4 and they hopefully come back tomorrow or later today. Really want them to join in on the discussion after simply doing just an RNG vote.

Seath: Has been brought up before. Hasn't voted and is being prodded. Responded saying they only have access to mobile. Come on Seath... I don't know what phone you have or what but you don't have to worry about going crazy on quotes or anything. Just getting a vote out with

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would be good along with your reasons for voting as such. Vote posts without reasoning explained don't help us much.

tl21xx: You've posted what - three times? - and are waiting for a response to a prod vote on Seath. But... what about you? What are your current thoughts about what is going down beyond Seath? He'll respond in due time. Until then, let's hear what you have to say.

gryvan: I know you're busy... just find the time tonight or whatever to make a discussion post with your thoughts.

Pop: You've responded, but not from my vote and your thoughts on Scrafty.

Scrafty: I'd like more posts from you to work with. Fluff and all. What do you think of the other residents of Nightvale?

Darklighter: BIGGS! WHERE ARE YOU!!!

Honerable mention: AbsolutBro - it's been a while. How are you?
 

Sorian

Banned
Oh my. I went to work so I'm just catching back up with all the discussion.



You are. My post was simply a tongue in cheek joke. It wasn't a serious role claim. In all fairness, I should've been more sensitive to use of the word "ordinary", but I don't think my reaction was in any way extreme or suspicious. Someone flatly called me a member of the mafia, and I responded that I'm not.



There's no intentional strategy in this, just clumsy playing. I'm still finding the balance in being proactive and thoughtful. I rushed to post without reading some of the posts closely enough. The fact that the topic of roles had already been discussed was an oversight on my part.



As I said above, I wasn't being very thoughtful of my phrasing.

At the end of the day, I do have to be real and say that it does sound like you care more about your appearances than catching scum. Can you give me a top two suspicious list right now?

I'm just going to say that I wouldn't really call what happened to me accusations getting stacked. It was mostly just random votes and pressure votes, in fact there were no accusations which is probably why I came off as passive as there was not really anything to react to. There was the thing about not responding to Squidy, but I really don't know that it was something to worry much about and have since explained it, and the vote that was put on me at that time seems more like it was to get my attention than to actually be used against me.

I also wouldn't be too concerned with Sorian pressing you with questions, he does that. You may feel that he went after you specifically, and maybe he did, but he probably just saw you were around and thought he would prod a bit.



I'm glad you brought this up since it was sort of bothering me. And I would also like to hear back from Pop. I also kinda want to know how he thinks Scrafty would hide behind her persona. Is it a matter of how she mixes in the fluff with what she actually wants to say, or is it purely a matter of the fluff itself being so core to her play style?



Off topic: Blarg is great to read but it seems like a chore to actually have him in your game.
On topic: Scrafty really does a good job of balancing the fluff with in between the lines important thoughts, but I can see how some people maybe can't get over it since sometimes it can be sorta in your face (especially with the current character). This doesn't affect my current questions towards Pop.

I'm not going to comment on the Squidy v Trigger/Razmos thing now because I want to review their post and I see that while I typed all the rest of this Trigger replied.

Also I'm sure Royal_Flush has probably guessed but I'm going to leave my vote on him until I think it could actually be useful elsewhere.

I see someone has been studying me in their free time. Pop has been on my radar and I see that other people are getting vibes as well. Forming my lists but Pop is definitely on it this time.
 

TL21xx

Banned
I guess I'll give it a go with people I want to hear from, i.e. low posters that I have noticed that are sorta kinda under the radar and/or aren't receiving votes to prod them or at least get them into a discussion:

tl21xx: You've posted what - three times? - and are waiting for a response to a prod vote on Seath. But... what about you? What are your current thoughts about what is going down beyond Seath? He'll respond in due time. Until then, let's hear what you have to say.

I haven't posted as much for a couple of reasons. Mainly due to work on a major CG project, but also because when I was able to hop onto the thread, there was nothing to really dig into at the time. So it's just rather unfortunate timing.

I am mainly focusing on Seath because the RNG told me to. It's day 1 and I like to take full advantage of the fact that nothing is truly for sure. The more discussion we have, the better chance we have at getting the town pulled together. On the plus side, I should be far more available tomorrow to sound off on my own reads so far. But I need to hit the sack. Way too late to give a decent read. I'll be back on the saddle tomorrow.
 

Karu

Member
Karu: Didn't know how to use highlights and used the wheel to vote for Scrafty. Probably sleeping/playing Fallout 4 and they hopefully come back tomorrow or later today. Really want them to join in on the discussion after simply doing just an RNG vote.
Yeah, that comes pretty close to being the truth. It's 10am over here so my posting intervall will probably be a little bit out of whack, heh.

Well as to the Day One-ongoings... I know pretty much nobody or their posting behaviour in the past. Sorian seems to take over the conversation, but that's it. There's always a person like that (as I said, played a few rounds, years ago in another discussion board with more loose rules on communication), so I wouldn't put to much thoughts into that, right now. Was he more aggressive in the past? As I said, can't tell. This will hopefully change in the coming days in regards to getting a sense of most people here. =)

For the wheel? It's pretty convienient if you ask me (for whom, though?). Back when I played during Day One someone would put him/herself on a paddle - by accident or not - and if there's nothing else to go on on, they probably get axed. On the other hand because of the loose communication, people would analyse chat programme-online status, how they would talk in private conversation and so on. This also falls mostly flat here, as it seems. At the end of the day, does it really matter? Isolate people who seem pretty safe and then choose from the rest, I guess.
 

Darklighter

Neo Member
What in the hell?

Darklighter has been a member since 2013, with a nice Biggs X-Wing avatar... with ONE post! ONE!

In the recruitment thread. WIth a stated low activity level, of course.

Am I missing something here? Do posts get deleted somehow? Man... and I thought I was the junior...

I was looking for his other posts to have something to go on but... damn...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=262341



That is his entire GAF history. That is all we have to go on to establish his personality. What can I gleam from this? He doesn't like to capitalize and he's up for anything. I'm just flabbergasted to see such low activity across ALL of GAF. He'll always be a junior at that rate. Probably only uses it for subscriptions and night mode.

I'm calling it. He's getting replaced. Let's not lynch him. Who's first on the waiting list?

Darklighter: BIGGS! WHERE ARE YOU!!!

Sorry, I was busy attacking the death star.


If Darklighter hasn't shown up by noon tomorrow then I'll like, totally change my vote to something more productive. But in the meantime, I wanna like, see what he has to say and he's got like, no incentive to speak up without being pressured right now.

Hi! You can like, change your vote now.


Why do I get the feeling that Darklighter is part of some long con set in motion by RetroMG years ago that he's only making good on now...

This is exactly what's happening.


Vote: Sorian for trying to control the game thread, and to see a reaction.
 
Sorry, I was busy attacking the death star.




Hi! You can like, change your vote now.




This is exactly what's happening.


Vote: Sorian for trying to control the game thread, and to see a reaction.
That's a very weird post... Give us some more.

Also, where the hell is AB? I know you aren't Sorian but I remember you more active than this.
 
You need to step up a bit, also I find it odd that you are worried about Scrafty here when her character act didn't seem to bother you in MGS.

VOTE: Pop-O-Matic

Your initial vote was not RNG but on Scrafty "because fuck tourists" and now you are keeping it thinking that it is a disguise. Is it because as a townie it seems she is painting too big of a target on her back? That she is unfazed by it? I wanna hear more about this.

I'm glad you brought this up since it was sort of bothering me. And I would also like to hear back from Pop. I also kinda want to know how he thinks Scrafty would hide behind her persona. Is it a matter of how she mixes in the fluff with what she actually wants to say, or is it purely a matter of the fluff itself being so core to her play style?

TBH, I didn't really know she was playing a character in MGS until other players pointed it out, and, even then, it didn't really seem all that noticeable or obstructive beyond having to run the occasional Spanish word/phrase through Google Translate. This one, though, is laid on a lot more thickly and therefore feels like if she knew how to play it she could really manipulate the town on how we view her and her opinions. As far as how she'd use it, I'm not entirely sure, but, if I was playing that way, I'd probably try to keep posting in the character's voice voice the majority of the time, but drop it when I really want to draw attention to something.

Why do I get the feeling that Darklighter is part of some long con set in motion by RetroMG years ago that he's only making good on now...
This is exactly what's happening.

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Razmos

Member
It's the same way with respect to an obsession with being visible for Razmos except Razmos makes the entire exercise explicit in his posts so I'm less sure how to read that. Last game we played together Razmos was scum and had a strong reaction to being pressured so I thought it would be a good idea to push him a little bit. His reaction is obviously very different but it's also really weird because in it he figuratively says "I am not being genuine, I am faking my reaction because I do not want to be lynched"
It's possible he's town and he's just being incredibly gun-shy because I find it kind of hard to believe that a mafia player would be so obvious about their intentions, but at the same time it's very weird, and very image-conscious play and it tends to be mafia who is worried about LOOKING town and town that is worried about hunting mafia IMO.

As for the other three, it all comes down to the bandwagoning and sequence of events but I might be reading too much into it.
I personally don't see the problem with making myself visible, especially since day 1 is a lot of poking inactive players and I don't want to be seen as one.

And don't get me wrong Squidy, I'm not faking my reaction. To not go into too much detail, the only reason I reacted so badly in the previous game is because of real life stress which was making playing mafia normally extremely difficult and I took your pushing a bit too personally. I quit the mafia game shortly into the first day phase and you know that, so bringing it up again so early into this game is a bit well, annoying.

I'm "not rising to it" in the sense that you aren't getting the same reaction as last time, I'm not faking anything.
 

Trigger

Member
At the end of the day, I do have to be real and say that it does sound like you care more about your appearances than catching scum. Can you give me a top two suspicious list right now?

I think a large number of people are trying to fly under the radar at the moment. I'd say AbsoluteBro has been pretty darn quiet since his last post, and I do think Darklighter has made a good point about how you've controlled the conversation. It's hard to tell if you're just trying to get people to participate and give town more to work with or if you're intentionally keeping the conversation off of yourself.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Some impressions on posts that happened overnight:

I haven't posted as much for a couple of reasons. Mainly due to work on a major CG project, but also because when I was able to hop onto the thread, there was nothing to really dig into at the time. So it's just rather unfortunate timing.

I am mainly focusing on Seath because the RNG told me to. It's day 1 and I like to take full advantage of the fact that nothing is truly for sure. The more discussion we have, the better chance we have at getting the town pulled together. On the plus side, I should be far more available tomorrow to sound off on my own reads so far. But I need to hit the sack. Way too late to give a decent read. I'll be back on the saddle tomorrow.

I don't like this post. We're far past the point where RNG votes don't make much sense - their whole point is to get us talking and prodding other people, so you pretty much wasted yours, and justifying your vote on Seath on RNG doesn't look good. I'm not sure what you mean with the bolded either. I'll be waiting for those reads and activity increase you're offering.

Yeah, that comes pretty close to being the truth. It's 10am over here so my posting intervall will probably be a little bit out of whack, heh.

Well as to the Day One-ongoings... I know pretty much nobody or their posting behaviour in the past. Sorian seems to take over the conversation, but that's it. There's always a person like that (as I said, played a few rounds, years ago in another discussion board with more loose rules on communication), so I wouldn't put to much thoughts into that, right now. Was he more aggressive in the past? As I said, can't tell. This will hopefully change in the coming days in regards to getting a sense of most people here. =)

I would say keep in mind not having impressions about us from previous games can be an advantage. In a game full of people who know each other, I think it's easy for the wolf team to blend in by acting "like they always do" - that's part of why people give a pass to Scrafty for her shtick. Don't hesitate to show suspicion or point fingers just because you don't have a good feel on us. You don't know if you're going to survive that long.

Sorry, I was busy attacking the death star.

Hi! You can like, change your vote now.

This is exactly what's happening.

Vote: Sorian for trying to control the game thread, and to see a reaction.

This is a very reactionary/defensive post. You'd make yourself look a lot better if instead of taking on the accusations against you head on, you had provided some thoughts into the state of the game. About Sorian, he's controlling and we always get around to discussing that at some point (although I'd say a little less so this time around, I wonder if he's trying to get the trust of those that don't know him that much. Now that things are heating up I wonder if he's going to go on the attack more often), but in this post it seems like a deflection vote/kneejerk reaction.

I think a large number of people are trying to fly under the radar at the moment. I'd say AbsoluteBro has been pretty darn quiet since his last post, and I do think Darklighter has made a good point about how you've controlled the conversation. It's hard to tell if you're just trying to get people to participate and give town more to work with or if you're intentionally keeping the conversation off of yourself.

That's a good point about AbsolutBro. He hasn't posted much. I already commented a bit on Sorian - honestly I don't find him very suspicious for being controlling which might be a combination of previous-games-bias and the fact that he really doesn't come across as aggressive this time around. I'm more likely to worry about him for that actually. Either way, at this point in the game we need people talking and he's causing that, not a bad thing. Specially when there's a significant amount of inactive players.
 

Sorian

Banned
Sorry, I was busy attacking the death star.




Hi! You can like, change your vote now.




This is exactly what's happening.


Vote: Sorian for trying to control the game thread, and to see a reaction.

Not much of a reaction really. This game has been off to a slow start and without friction, no one does anything day 1. I'm intimidating, I ask direct questions, I provide topics of conversation during down time, these are the ways you catch scum. Do I expect to hit scum this day phase? Eh, probably not, but I have forced a lot of people into talking about their reads and that is extremely valuable information going forward as long as people follow up.

I think a large number of people are trying to fly under the radar at the moment. I'd say AbsoluteBro has been pretty darn quiet since his last post, and I do think Darklighter has made a good point about how you've controlled the conversation. It's hard to tell if you're just trying to get people to participate and give town more to work with or if you're intentionally keeping the conversation off of yourself.

Talk about me all you want, I can't really interrogate myself so of course I am my own blind spot when it comes to interrogations.
 

Sorian

Banned
TBH, I didn't really know she was playing a character in MGS until other players pointed it out, and, even then, it didn't really seem all that noticeable or obstructive beyond having to run the occasional Spanish word/phrase through Google Translate. This one, though, is laid on a lot more thickly and therefore feels like if she knew how to play it she could really manipulate the town on how we view her and her opinions. As far as how she'd use it, I'm not entirely sure, but, if I was playing that way, I'd probably try to keep posting in the character's voice voice the majority of the time, but drop it when I really want to draw attention to something.

I'm trying to get a feel for you and really all I've seen is a tunnel on Scrafty, you seem dead set on voting for her and that's your choice so feel free but who is your second choice at this time?

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As for Scrafty, Darklighter has now posted, what are your thoughts on that matter?
 

RetroMG

Member
We received a press release this morning. The Night Vale Business Association is proud to announce the opening of the brand new Night Vale Harbor and Waterfront Recreation Area. I have been to these facilities myself recently on their invitation, and I can tell you that it is absolutely top of the line and beautiful. Sturdy docking areas made from eco-friendly post-consumer material, a boardwalk for pedestrians, and plenty of stands ready for local food vendors and merchants to turn into a bustling public marketplace.

Now, there is some concern about the fact that, given we are in the middle of a desert, there is no actual water at the waterfront—and that is a definite drawback, I agree. For instance, the boardwalk is currently overlooking sagebrush and rocks. The Business Association did not provide an specific remedies for this problem, but they assured me that the new harbor would be a big boost to Night Vale nonetheless. Maybe wait until a flash flood and head down there for the full waterfront experience.

The local chapter of the NRA is selling bumper stickers as part of their fundraising week. They sent the station one to get some publicity, and we're here to serve the community so I'm happy to let you all know about it. The stickers are made from good, sturdy vinyl, and they read, 'Guns Don't Kill People; It's Impossible To Be Killed By A Gun; We Are All Invincible To Bullets And It's A Miracle.'
Stand outside of your front door and shout, "NRA," to order one.

And now, Listeners, The Weather.



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trigger (2)
razmos 155
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squidyj 170 (351)
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ultrajay 279 (414)
ty4on 328

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various people said:
where the hell is AB?

I want to apologize. The last couple weeks have been pretty rough. Without getting into too much personal detail, in addition to all sorts of bad family shit, I was doing the work of two people at the office and three people on my farm. It pretty much peaked two nights ago when my hot water heater burst. I probably should have said something to Retro, but I thought I could handle it. I was a little wrong, but pretty much everything is as resolved as it's going to get. I'm good to go now and will be around more. Wednesday/Thursday will tend to be my most active days, but I'll be around other days a bit more sporadically (during working hours anyway).

So yeah. I'll try to get more into theme and post some thoughts in just a bit.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
I want to apologize. The last couple weeks have been pretty rough. Without getting into too much personal detail, in addition to all sorts of bad family shit, I was doing the work of two people at the office and three people on my farm. It pretty much peaked two nights ago when my hot water heater burst. I probably should have said something to Retro, but I thought I could handle it. I was a little wrong, but pretty much everything is as resolved as it's going to get. I'm good to go now and will be around more. Wednesday/Thursday will tend to be my most active days, but I'll be around other days a bit more sporadically (during working hours anyway).

So yeah. I'll try to get more into theme and post some thoughts in just a bit.

Nice Avatar! Subtle
 

UltraJay

Member
It's morning for you guys but the end of the day for me. I stirred some low posters to respond but some more from all of them could be nice. Basically, don't be shy... keep talking! I'm sitting all alone on Pop at the moment but I still wanna hear more about their thoughts. Will change my vote after I've read through the days posts when I wake up (evening for you guys), hopefully I'll have zeroed in on someone flaky enough to lynch tomorrow.

There's still a chance that one of the low activity people is purposely trying to lay low.

More than anything, though, I'm just really happy Darklighter posted. That's two whole posts on GAF now! Congratulations! Now imagine if those posts could actually be worthwhile. Come on, Biggs.
 

Sorian

Banned
It's morning for you guys but the end of the day for me. I stirred some low posters to respond but some more from all of them could be nice. Basically, don't be shy... keep talking! I'm sitting all alone on Pop at the moment but I still wanna hear more about their thoughts. Will change my vote after I've read through the days posts when I wake up (evening for you guys), hopefully I'll have zeroed in on someone flaky enough to lynch tomorrow.

There's still a chance that one of the low activity people is purposely trying to lay low.

More than anything, though, I'm just really happy Darklighter posted. That's two whole posts on GAF now! Congratulations! Now imagine if those posts could actually be worthwhile. Come on, Biggs.

I'm not going to lie, you may not be all alone on him soon. Waiting to see his answers to my grilling though. My vote on Boo Boo'N is mostly for show at this point, I'm just waiting to see where I want to flip it to.
 
Dear Diary,

This town is like, sooooooo weird.

First thing in the morning we all got to spin this like, big round thingy to decide who we could put votes on. It told me to vote for like, this guy named Darklighter and I'd have to be like, totally bugging to disobey a big spinny thing so that's who I voted for!

Later I found that like, whoever gets the most votes doesn't win a prize but instead gets like, subjected to a horrible and untimely death filled with unimaginable agony. Soooooooo, not totally stoked for that. I decided to like, keep my vote where it was because if anyone dies I'd rather it be like, someone I've never met. Guilt is totally unfab, you know.

So like, anyway, then this weird guy named Pop-o-something voted for me and like, tried to get into my pants or something. Barf! He seems like, totally shady so I should probably keep an eye out for him.

Darklighter fiiiiiiiinally showed up and only like, raised more questions than he answered but I made a promise to this like, town leader guy that I'd change my vote if Lightie showed up and I'm totallly a woman of my word!

I like, wonder if they'll accept this page as a valid ballot. Teehee, that almost like, rhymed! I'm like, such a modern poet.

Love and peace,

Lucy "Scrafty" Diablos

VOTE: gryvan
 

Sorian

Banned
Dear Diary,

This town is like, sooooooo weird.

First thing in the morning we all got to spin this like, big round thingy to decide who we could put votes on. It told me to vote for like, this guy named Darklighter and I'd have to be like, totally bugging to disobey a big spinny thing so that's who I voted for!

Later I found that like, whoever gets the most votes doesn't win a prize but instead gets like, subjected to a horrible and untimely death filled with unimaginable agony. Soooooooo, not totally stoked for that. I decided to like, keep my vote where it was because if anyone dies I'd rather it be like, someone I've never met. Guilt is totally unfab, you know.

So like, anyway, then this weird guy named Pop-o-something voted for me and like, tried to get into my pants or something. Barf! He seems like, totally shady so I should probably keep an eye out for him.

Darklighter fiiiiiiiinally showed up and only like, raised more questions than he answered but I made a promise to this like, town leader guy that I'd change my vote if Lightie showed up and I'm totallly a woman of my word!

I like, wonder if they'll accept this page as a valid ballot. Teehee, that almost like, rhymed! I'm like, such a modern poet.

Love and peace,

Lucy "Scrafty" Diablos

VOTE: gryvan

Oh come on, you know this is going to get pushback. First, for the bolded, you know that you told Coppa (I think that was the "town leader guy" might have been me too since we both had the same complaint) that you would change your vote if he didn't talk because our issue was that voting out someone completely uninvested is just a crapshoot since we know nothing about the person's role and they would be replaced anyway. Darklighter is now back on the table because he has met his posting requirements for day 1, he isn't getting replaced yet and we have to have a real discussion about how he is unengaged so far. So, Dark showed up and said a whole lot of nothing, you said so yourself, so why are you backing off?

Second, is there justification for the gryvan vote? I don't think you've said anything definitive about him previously so I apologize if you have and I've forgotten.
 

Sorian

Banned
If Darklighter hasn't shown up by noon tomorrow then I'll like, totally change my vote to something more productive. But in the meantime, I wanna like, see what he has to say and he's got like, no incentive to speak up without being pressured right now.

For reference, and it was me you were speaking to not Coppa so sorry for bringing him up in my last post.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Scrafty, it sucks that you took your vote off Darklighter because honestly I was planning on joining you. As I said I didn't like his post one bit, and something to consider is that now that he's not up for subbing anytime soon, his lack of activity is actively harmful to town.

I don't think it's wise to leave him voteless.

UNVOTE
VOTE: Darklighter

Darklighter, who do you think other than Sorian is looking suspicious? Also, i find it odd that both Scrafty and Darklight seem to have had the same misunderstanding regarding the conditions Scrafty committed to to change her vote:

If Darklighter hasn't shown up by noon tomorrow then I'll like, totally change my vote to something more productive. But in the meantime, I wanna like, see what he has to say and he's got like, no incentive to speak up without being pressured right now.

Hi! You can like, change your vote now.

Darklighter fiiiiiiiinally showed up and only like, raised more questions than he answered but I made a promise to this like, town leader guy that I'd change my vote if Lightie showed up and I'm totallly a woman of my word!

...what?
 
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