Er, are you quoting the right thing?
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Werewolf |OT| Was it all just a Dream?
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Er, are you quoting the right thing?
I didn't claim or soft-claim. That was just the interpretation of a few people. Drop was a mod-confirmed Town power role, so they killed him.
P.S. *wary
You said that me and Batsnacks did the same gambit about baiting the people on the strongman case, right?
So I quoted on my post, where I commented on Batsnack's gambit, I called him out that I had already did that.
No, that's not what I'm talking about.
Isn't it funny that both you and batsnacks came up with the exact same "gotcha" strategy?
And uh, yes? I commented on his gotcha-strategy partly in that post as well, as he had just at that point used it?
Question: Do you really think, that two scums would use a completely same strategy, in a quite short time interval?
So what I'm getting out of Burb's claim:
1. Scum did not know Cabot was the Doctor - Seeing as they used Strong Kill on Cabot thinking the Doc might protect Cabot. So they killed him for being the Deputy.
2. Batsnacks did indeed target Cabot, but so did scum. That means there were four kill abilities firing off on N2. Two on Cabot, one of Splinter, and one on CornBurrito. That's a lot of kills.
3. No one tried to kill CrimsonFist last night. Or protect him. Or anything.
Still, we only had one death last night. And Burb and CrimsonFist are both alive.
After looking back at previous posts by Burb, I realize I should've accounted for strongman, but I just never considered it as a possibility. Hell, I didn't even mention it at all. It doesn't look like anyone did. Looking back, we probably should've realized you kept bringing it up for a reason. It wasn't for nefarious reasons, just did not ever consider it as a real possibility. Obviously, I was wrong about that.
And yet, here we stand, with just one kill today. After two night one, and a possible of four on N2. Something weird is going on.
1. Scum did not know Cabot was the Doctor - Seeing as they used Strong Kill on Cabot thinking the Doc might protect Cabot. So they killed him for being the Deputy.
2. Batsnacks did indeed target Cabot, but so did scum. That means there were four kill abilities firing off on N2. Two on Cabot, one of Splinter, and one on CornBurrito. That's a lot of kills.
3. No one tried to kill CrimsonFist last night. Or protect him. Or anything.
Still, we only had one death last night. And Burb and CrimsonFist are both alive.
After looking back at previous posts by Burb, I realize I should've accounted for strongman, but I just never considered it as a possibility. Hell, I didn't even mention it at all. It doesn't look like anyone did. Looking back, we probably should've realized you kept bringing it up for a reason. It wasn't for nefarious reasons, just did not ever consider it as a real possibility. Obviously, I was wrong about that.
And yet, here we stand, with just one kill today. After two night one, and a possible of four on N2. Something weird is going on.
And three kills were originally going to come in N1, but Batsnacks revived Ultron.
CrimsonFist
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Burbeting, I'm wondering, do you get notified if the person you're watching is visited by a sleepwalker?
Considering the size of the game, it's reasonable enough that they wouldn't have visited whilst you were watching anyway, but between you and Zipped we haven't seen either of them yet.
Considering the size of the game, it's reasonable enough that they wouldn't have visited whilst you were watching anyway, but between you and Zipped we haven't seen either of them yet.
I don't get it. Your quote you just posted is post #1848. The batsnacks quote I just posted is post #1956. batsnacks only revealed his "ultimate plan" in post #1956, which Swamped was eagerly following along with when batsnacks had just voted for me out of nowhere. Unless you're a time traveler, how exactly did you know what batsnacks was going for as a "gotcha-strategy"?
And hell if I know, which is why I'm not certain you're both wolves, either. There's nothing certain about you both being town, though.
I asked Palmer about in D1, I asked if I would get a response like "your target was sleepwalked on". His response was bit vague to it, he just said that I would get the information that they were visited. I assume he meant that I would get the information that the sleepwalkers would visit, but I didn't ask further,
At any case, it meant that if Sleepwalkers had visited my targets, I would have been noted somehow. I assume by saying "your target was visited by a sleepwalker".
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He revealed his plan later yeah, but it was quite obvious at least to me (since I had just used the similar gotcha-plan, as you said), where he was going with it.
lol yeah, if you make a list of half the game you'll probably find at least two wolves
Password to my post is my username, but beware, you may not be ready for the truth.
Interesting stuff, Burb. I agreed with you on the Cabot thing because of what I've said: It was the simplest and thus much more likely scenario, in my mind. It's much easier to suggest the strongman scenario when you know it's what actually happened, but of course now I agree we should 100% assume that there's a strongman-wolf. Hindsight is 20/20.
I just deleted the dead people except the noted wolves, that's why the list is so small. No point paying attention to the dead ones.
We don't know that for sure, but it's probably true. Meaning we sholuld've had more kills last night, probably...
Considering these things:
1. We likely should've had more deaths last night
2. Crimson wasn't targeted by anyone
My conclusion is someone was protected or roleblocked last night that was being marked for death who wasn't Crimson.
Personally, I think Burb was targeted last night. They STRONGED the deputy before but then didn't try to kill the deputy again? That's weird, too. Maybe they got blocked or they strongkilled someone else.
Xamtheking
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No I'm saying you bolded almost 10 names and said "at least two wolves," and like, you could RNG a list of names and get the same odds.
Xamtheking
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Spoiler: You are never going to figure out how to decode that in a million years.
Oh wow, thanks for that revelation Burb. Lots to think about, but i do believe what you said is the truth. Strongman is usually X-shot, right?
Change of heart on Rats? At the end of D3 you thought the Rats bandwagon was weird. What's your read on Rats, and has it changed throughout this game?
Change of heart on Rats? At the end of D3 you thought the Rats bandwagon was weird. What's your read on Rats, and has it changed throughout this game?
Either Scum's second KP, or neutral SK?
CrimsonFist
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I see no reason to change my choice of deputy, unless anyone else has an objection.
Usually, I believe. However, I thought Burb's implication was that Drop was strongkilled on N1 (which explains why no one "protected him" -- he probably was protected by Cabot after all) and obviously Cabot was strongkilled on N2. Now, either it's a 2-shot, it's unlimited, or Drop wasn't strongkilled.
I might be misremembering though. Did Cabot ever imply that Drop was protected? I know he distanced himself from the doc role quite a bit.
Yup.
Some of Cabot's posts implied that he protected Drop, at least they implied it for me.
And even if Cabot did not guard Drop, I think scum must have assumed, that there would be a doctor protecting him, so that they used the Strongman there.
Septimus Prime
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He kind of did. He posted in a hypothetical way that there was no reason for the doctor not to protect a confirmed town. It's likely that he posted that because he knows his protection failed.
For the record, I think N2 we had:
Cabot - strongkilled, also targeted by bats
Corn - Vig
Splinter - Scum
I see that as most likely. That way we have got: 1 scum regular kill, 1 scum strong kill, a Vig (or x-shot) and a 1-shot witch (bats).
I've said it all along that I think scum has got two KP, and it looks like I'm right. The only question now is whether the Strongman is X-shot or not. Even if he's a 1 or two shot, we're missing some kills today.
Cabot - strongkilled, also targeted by bats
Corn - Vig
Splinter - Scum
I see that as most likely. That way we have got: 1 scum regular kill, 1 scum strong kill, a Vig (or x-shot) and a 1-shot witch (bats).
I've said it all along that I think scum has got two KP, and it looks like I'm right. The only question now is whether the Strongman is X-shot or not. Even if he's a 1 or two shot, we're missing some kills today.
This theory has a problem: Assuming the roles would be like that, N1 would then be...
Drop - strongkilled
Terra - Vig
Ultron - Scum...?
Why would scum try to kill Ultron?
Who knows. Someone definitely tried to kill Ultron and it wasn't bats or the strongman. The only other option is that we have 2 vigs?
I don't see it as completely impossible that scum tried to off Ultron, though. Sleepwalker claim and all, but it would've been a very confusing death to try to make sense of.
Septimus Prime
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Neutral, X-shot Serial Killer, maybe? The single kill last night could imply that he ran out of shots or got blocked somehow.
CrimsonFist
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Maybe there is a paranoid gunman or something like that, and nobody else has run into them yet.
although I think both serial killer and vigilante is the most likely possibility, although whilst both Terra and Ultron make sense from a Vig perspective, why would a serial killer target either? and why did neither of them get a kill last night?
although I think both serial killer and vigilante is the most likely possibility, although whilst both Terra and Ultron make sense from a Vig perspective, why would a serial killer target either? and why did neither of them get a kill last night?
Rats Off To Ya
Day 1
I found that bandwagon to be weird before and I honestly didn't think much of Rats before now but, hey, opinions can change overNight.
Day 1
- First and immediate thought after the sleepwalker claim of ultron and Xam is disbelief and to test them by lynching one of them, with little regard to their alignment. (#224)
- Aside from his preoccupation with the sleepwalkers, he is inactive for most of Day 1. Claims it was due to real life stuff. (#659)
- Not the most elaborate reasoning for reads. In the end, his one and only vote is for one of the sleepwalkers: ultron (#783)
- First day 2 comment: more doubt about sleepwalkers, expressing disbelief at there being 3 in the game. (#1055)
- Most agreed that Terrabyte did not stand out, which is why it was surprising to see him dead on Day 2, and especially finding out he was a wolf. Rats objects to this however, claiming:
- His comment immediately after that:
- Like in Day 1, Rats once again expresses flippancy regarding the alignment of the person he votes for after switching his D2 vote from ultron to GreatLord Tiger:
- Was a bit more active on Day 2, however still blends in.
- The person next to CzarTim who immediately voted for Timeaisis after I pointed out a superficial contradiction. Rats did express the following in Day 2 before:
But those three posts in a row, starting with mine, looked suspicious as hell, tbh. Obvious bandwagon vote. (#1871) - Zipped was acting crazy, so this one's given a pass as an individual action, but bandwagon vote on Zippedinhead. (#2148)
- I actually don't know what this is:
- Hasn't posted anything yet.
- Has not been active in terms of trying to determine the alignments of others.
- Has not been active when it comes to expressing thoughts on others' alignments.
- Does not particularly care who gets lynched; disguises this attitude by repeatedly claiming that he does not have strong reads on anyone, or that he wants to "test" someone by finding out their flip.
- Has a tendency to bandwagon; he wants carried momentum and for people to just die quickly.
- Has constantly been flying under the radar, with the only times he's shown a particularly strong presence being when he has berated people for early claims.
I found that bandwagon to be weird before and I honestly didn't think much of Rats before now but, hey, opinions can change overNight.
Septimus Prime
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"I'm not a Vig, but I would have killed that guy who mysteriously died last night. Also, there's probably a Serial Killer."
Sounds like Rats might be an SK.
Sounds like Rats might be an SK.
I'm still in this meeting, and I will talk more about my other suspects before this day phase ends for sure. I swear I'm not suffering from tunnel vision, but I just haven't had a chance yet to look at my other suspects in detail.
Are there people here who are leaning town on Rats and Time? If so, why? I see Boo Boo'n leans town on Rats. Flux has changed his read of Rats, which is of course fine, people change their minds all the time.
Are there people here who are leaning town on Rats and Time? If so, why? I see Boo Boo'n leans town on Rats. Flux has changed his read of Rats, which is of course fine, people change their minds all the time.
CrimsonFist
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If he's a killing role, his comment on Terra would imply more that he's the vig would it not? Reminds me of Cabot trying to distance himself from the doctor role.
Although in that case he'd be town aligned so the lack of contribution and willingness to flip possible townies would make less sense.
Although in that case he'd be town aligned so the lack of contribution and willingness to flip possible townies would make less sense.
I can't speak on Timeasis as much as I can Rats, but it's wholly possible that Rats probably has some sort of PR that only let him use it one time for the game. Flux did bring up the speaking pattern noted with Rats (I'm not 'x,' but if I WAS.) hence making me lean that he's either a PR or a townie, because no wolf would make that amateur mistake right?
Jesus christ.
Xamtheking
Xam's posts throughout the majority of the game have been bumbling, careless, vague and noncontributing to the discussions during the day phase. His votes come off mostly as bandwagon-y, the singluar quips and responses to the rest of town are of little help. Since Day 1 I've had my suspicions for the guy, and those really don't leave when you have yourself simply going "I fucked up", or "whoops" in response to people pointing out your fuck ups.
Hyperactivity
Yes, he's just replacing GreatLord Tiger, but the sudden questioning of the context of GLT's leaving wouldn't be something he would ask publically to the group unless he had some sort of role for/against town. A normal townie would just, jump in and discuss/collaborate. The question has me irked a bit, is all.
Fireblend
Post-burbeting's role reveal, unlike you Flux FB is taking the response to Burbeting having him in his accusation pool really well. Somewhat 'too' well. That, and the incessant need of him pressuring myself for these same reads from last game (to which I do admit I was fucking up), gives the impression that maybe, just maybe, h/she's probably hiding something.
Lollipop Dave
Not priority, but still someone to consider.
kingkitty.
Don't really see this one post a lot. Someone to scout in the future..
CrimsonFist
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Of those, Xam I feel very confident is town at this point, and Kingkitty hasn't posted much, but I've been pretty impressed with what he has posted.
Dave has been pretty quiet since the baker stuff. I know he said that he'd been busy with stuff irl, but he really hasn't been contributing anything at all.
Dave has been pretty quiet since the baker stuff. I know he said that he'd been busy with stuff irl, but he really hasn't been contributing anything at all.
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