brianjones
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just finished.. really quite charming!
now reading
can't remember how i came about this book but i found it in my closet.. I've read comparisons to burroughs, kafka, dick... only 100 pages so well see how it goes!
Never said they were.
I didn't enjoy them after two books because they became too formulaic/predictable. Dresden is every noir detective cliche crammed into a typical urban fantasy setting. Iron Druid is like if someone thought American Gods was a pretty neat idea and decided to make a series about Anglo-Saxon mythology references.
Dresden is shit, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
Historical Fantasy: Temeraire series
Medieval Europe Fantasy: Kingkiller Chronicles (forgive me padre for I have sinned)
High Fantasy: The Immortals series
Satirical Fantasy: Discworld series
Urban Fantasy: Iron Druid series
Post Apocalyptic Scifi: Silo series
Space Opera Scifi: Expanse series
Hard Scifi: Foundation trilogy and related works
Cyberpunk: Sprawl trilogy
I wrote a blog about this very topic recently. Completely agree that you start with characters and build their world around them.Fantasy authors usually seem more interested in creating universes than writing good characters and dialogue. It's a problem I've run into with most of the fantasy/sci fi stuff I've read recently; Dune being the prime example.
I wrote a blog about this very topic recently. Completely agree that you start with characters and build their world around them.
Yeah, the Dark Tower is basically the centerpiece of his career. Another book that connects heavily is "It".
Also, I'm a big fan of the Bourne books (at least the Ludlum ones) and Reacher books as well, so maybe our tastes are pretty similar overall. You should probably give The Dark Tower a try.
Just finished feed. A great novel by a great author, it melds zombie culture with modern technology, journalism and a "house of cards"-esque political background.
I give it 4.5/5 stars. The ending hurt so bad so I take away .5 of a star because why Mira Grant WHY?!!
The true rating is 5/5!!!
Its also a great starter zombie book, I'm certainly new with zombie novels but this was an easy read to get into, not too much horror or suspense but just enough.
I got this probably a year or so ago and started reading it but had to put it down. I was not engaged at all in the first 50 or so pages and I really am not sure if I'll go back to it. I hear nothing but good things about it but I have read some far more gripping zombie books before and since and I just can't find a reason to go back.
You reminding me about it might just do it though.
Since my last post I've listened to these...
Fantasy authors usually seem more interested in creating universes than writing good characters and dialogue. It's a problem I've run into with most of the fantasy/sci fi stuff I've read recently; Dune being the prime example.
It's alright, it's not... mastercraft urban fantasy or anything (what is?), but middling, sitting comfortably between the extremes of Hunger Games and ASOIAF.
Now, a genuinely good urban fantasy series (that's also dead due to lack of popularity and sales) is Twenty Palaces. I was legit shook when I finished reading all the books.
Dresden is shit, shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. Iron Druid is at least kind of fun for 2-3 books.
(I don't really have the inclination to "wait" for a series to pick up. It's not like manga where I can marathon 50 chapters in a single day, and I did allow Butcher two books with which to give me something worthwhile. He failed.)
I will definitely look into 21st Century Dead. I like your taste, what are you reading/listening to next?
I'm starting Urth of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe, as well as Grave Peril by Jim Butcher.
The latter will be the make or break chance for Dresden to win me over.
It almost seems unfair to have Dresden's last chance occurring at the same time you're reading the coda to The Book of the New Sun.
Does the change in writing style bother you? I found the sudden clarity a bit jarring at first, but I think it helps set it apart.
Recent , popular fantasy then. Abercrombie, Lynch and Sanderson for starters.That's a pretty large, all-encompassing "one thing," wouldn't you say?
LOL. No need to generalize or anything there...
Are you referencing Urth? If so, I purchased it last night and will be starting it this evening. I hope it's super clear, since I have a thousand questions from the previous four books. I was looking at the publication date and realized it came out much later. That explains why I had no idea it even existed until it was referenced on GAF. If I had read the earlier books back in the 80s (ignore that I would have been under three years old when they were published), I would have been ticked to not have a more definitive ending. Hell, the fourth book says there's more to come in the story....
I did make it about 25% through the third Dresden book. More of the same. I need to appreciate it for what it is: a pulpy supernatural detective story. I'm sure the contrast with Wolfe will be hilarious.
I had hear the fellow who wrote the Twenty Palaces books stopped writing?
He's doing something else, apparently. I found a Kickstarter for some fantasy junk. He did stop work on Twenty Palaces indefinitely though, because it just wasn't selling.
I got The Affair + Persuader (Reacher) as well as Bourne Supremacy, Ultimatum, Betrayal, and Imperative for a total of about $20 thanks to some local sales. I read the Affair as I looked it up and saw that it was set as only the second book in the series, which means I'm not missing much by going through it. Absolutely loved it. I'm hestitant to read Persuader because it's set so far after Affair and I don't know when I'll get around to buying the rest. Am I okay to read it anyway or should I wait?
And I thought I would be okay to jump into Supremacy because I saw the movies but even just the first 20 pages were referencing an Identity that was so completely different from the Identity movie that I had to put it down and go to something else. I still haven't bought Identity even though I probably should :lol
Oh so many. First and foremost being Make Room! Make Room!, one of my all time favorite books. Also, Lucifer's Hammer, Earth Abides, Parable of the Sower/Parable of the Talents, Alas Babylon, Swan Song. I have a bunch more but they're more in the vein of 'the world is fucked up already and people are now surviving'.GAF, recommend me good end-of-world/apocalyptic scenario/world-scale disaster novels please.
I am at the beginning of Jose Saramago's Blindness right now.
Are there any good sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll fiction novels? Not some shitty erotic bullshit, but normal proper books? Preferably set in 00s, but 80s and 90s will do.
The Affair is actually a relatively recent book, but it is a prequel. I think it's actually the second or third prequel he's written so far, and it probably works well to read it early on. But if you want the real beginning of the series, you have to read Killing Floor, which is very good and sets up the basic mechanics of the Reacher series. I think it follows directly after the Affair in the time-line. Once you've read Killing Floor Skipping around in the series isn't generally a big problem because they don't really tell an ongoing story. And you don't even have to start with Killing Floor. Several of the early books work as a good introduction. I personally started with Echo Burning, and that worked very well.
The Persuader is an excellent book, one of the best in the series if I'm remembering correctly, but I'm not sure how it would be to jump into it straight from The Affair.
Yeah, the Bourne books are very different from the movies. The character has a different (darker) personality, and the whole thing is very cold-war oriented.
The first book and first movie are the most similar, but even those have huge differences, and after that the plots continue to diverge pretty drastically.
Ah okay. I'll probably add Killing Floor to my soon-required list then. I really liked the style of Affair and look forward to the rest. It doesn't hurt that I really enjoyed the film.
Do you know if the post Ultimatum books are directly-related to one another? Can I skip around with those or should I get them in order?
Former GAF book club book A Visit from the Goon Squad might be what you're looking for.
Ah okay. I'll probably add Killing Floor to my soon-required list then. I really liked the style of Affair and look forward to the rest. It doesn't hurt that I really enjoyed the film.
So I started reading Belgarath the Sorcerer despite knowing I don't really like it, read about 80 pages, decided I really don't like Edding's style anymore, and tossed it back on the shelf to moulder in another decade's worth of dust or something.
Why do I even keep this series around? I should pack it into storage or something.
The Beckham Experiment.
So if I'm looking for books where magic is so consistent it might as well be science, I hear Mistbourne is a pretty good idefa?
I just finished Ark by Stephen Baxter and am currently reading Cyberabad Days by Ian McDonald. Next up is probably The Quantum Thief.
I just finished Ark by Stephen Baxter and am currently reading Cyberabad Days by Ian McDonald. Next up is probably The Quantum Thief.
How was Ark? It's been on my to read list for a while, never available at my local sci-fi bookstore though.
Are there any good sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll fiction novels? Not some shitty erotic bullshit, but normal proper books? Preferably set in 00s, but 80s and 90s will do.
My agent has the book, and I’m having several copies of the manuscript printed up and bound to distribute to some keen-eyed friends today. That’s as much as I can say detail-wise, at the moment. As soon as my publishers and my agent and I have the details hashed out I will post them here post-haste
Not quite fitting your requirements, but what about Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (set in the 60s)? Or even Infinite Jest (not much rock'n'roll, but it has EVERYTHING else)? Then there's On the Road if you are willing to go even further back in time. Naked Lunch might also fit somewhat, but I haven't read it myself yet.
He takes his head out of his ass a little more with every book. He recognized the problems of the first trilogy and set out to resolve it in the second.Something about The Prince of Nothing really bothered me. It wasn't just that the first trilogy didn't finish anything about the story, it was that I felt like we glimpsed Bakker's worldview and it was cold and dark and slimy.
Interested in this too. Did you read Flood before hand?
Something about The Prince of Nothing really bothered me. It wasn't just that the first trilogy didn't finish anything about the story, it was that I felt like we glimpsed Bakker's worldview and it was cold and dark and slimy.
I don't really like to say that, because I think it's important to separate an author from his/her characters, worlds, even narrative voice. But in this case I think it really is just that Bakker has an incredibly bleak view of humanity, and expresses it in sheer grim nastiness.
Haven't read any of the second trilogy, maybe it gets better. But I'm never going to read anything by Bakker again.