HiroProtagonist said:To hold me over until then I picked up Altered Carbon and Perdido Street Station, both recommendations from these threads.
Chorazin said:That was free on the Kindle store a while ago, and since I heard really good things about The City and the City from him, I made sure to download it.
Man, after finishing it, really wanted all that time back I put into it. IMO, the ending felt like such a massive fuck you to the reader that it really soured my perception of the whole book and the author.
Maybe you'll be into that type of ending, and you'll like it. I know lots and lots of people who love the book though, so maybe it's just not for me.
speculawyer said:Got it for free from here:
http://www.freekoran.com/
Tim the Wiz said:Could you elaborate on that?
Personally, I found the ending to be more realistically bittersweet than over-wrought in tragedy, as some like to paint it. And it would be an incorrect assumption to think that all his endings are identical in such fashion. For instance, I cannot stop marveling at the ending of The Scar - an ingeniously constructed "anticlimax".
Monroeski said:
Only found out recently that Gibson wrote more than one book in the Sprawl universe, so I decided to check out the two after Neuromancer (which is the only book I consistently re-read every couple years).
Close to halfway through, and I'm enjoying it, but for about the first quarter I was having trouble following. Part of that is probably because I was just reading in small 10 minutes spurts when that's not the optimal way to take everything in when the author is interchanging three different storylines. Taking off for me pretty quickly now that I know what is going on, though.
In that case I'm fortunate that in addition to Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive, I also bought Virtual Light, Idoru, and All Tomorrow's Parties.Chorazin said:I'm pretty sure all of his books other than Spook Country and Pattern Recognition are set in the same universe.
And those might be set in the past of that universe, I don't think he's said either way.
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Chorazin said:I never assumed his endings are the same or even remotely similar, I just assumed I'm not going to like his other books, because I didn't like this one. If I didn't like a free book, I'm not gonna pay for another by the same author.
Chorazin said:If I must elaborate on the entire book, I thought every single time anything withhappened, it drug the entire book down. In the end, I felt it served no purpose as a part of the plot. I get what it stood for, but deleting those chapters may have made the book flow so much better.Motley's statue being created
Chorazin said:Also, the ending.It irked me that Yag was abandoned so easily. Yes, what he did was terrible, but how many cops did they kill on that rooftop? How many people died due to the groups actions? It just seemed so hypocritical that it pissed me off and felt like the author was saying "MY BOOK ENDS IN A WAY YOU DON'T LIKE JUST BECAUSE I FELT LIKE IT! FUCK YOU!!"
Chorazin said:I know lots of people like it, and they most likely love the ending, but again, it's just not for me.
icarus-daedelus said:FnordChan, I am going to have to recommend that to my mom. She loves mystery/detective novels and I am always trying to find her series that are not pure shit. Unfortunately, most of what gets released in that genre (and every genre, I suppose) is airport novel-caliber fare.
ShadyMilkman said:Just finished The Dragon Reborn and am about to start Shadow Rising. So far, so good, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054749/. I figure I'll keep going as long as I stay interested.
Tim the Wiz said:Again, fair enough; I just find it a touch odd, is all. You're the first person I've encountered to gather such a large element of fault with not only the book (personally, I felt the plot was a bit stifled by, although The Scar helped make up for most of that minor annoyance), but also the author, especially given the quality of his prose - at least, from my perspective.the narrow gaze of the monster hunt
That sounds like an interesting series. I'll look into picking up a copy the next time I'm wandering around a book story.FnordChan said:I gave my own mom the first Renko novel as a Christmas gift a few years back, so I definitely approve of your idea. She should start with Gorky Park, which is top notch and works just fine as a stand alone novel if she never reads another book in the series.
FnordChan
Mr.FortyFive said:Just finished:
Tim the Wiz said:Well, I thought the author was presenting a flawed character, who, emotionally traumatized and wrecked, couldn't find empathy for what he didn't understand. He simply saw it as rape, whereas in their society it was actually a greater and more perverse crime. It's a good extrapolation of the human condition: We, as humans, will always be troubled by our incomprehension of the Other, whether that be another race/nationality/etc. or, as is capable in a world of fantasy, another sentient species.
Moreover, he never stopped to think - seriously think - beforehand what sort of action could cause such maiming by creatures of flight on another of their kind. In this way, Isaac was displayed as naive and slightly self-absorbed throughout. Really, his reaction was not that much of a shock, and the ending was quite fitting from where I stood. Indeed, I had no sense of Mieville warping the characterization on the last stretch just to be edgy or some other nonsense.
Again, fair enough; I just find it a touch odd, is all. You're the first person I've encountered to gather such a large element of fault with not only the book (personally, I felt the plot was a bit stifled by, although The Scar helped make up for most of that minor annoyance), but also the author, especially given the quality of his prose - at least, from my perspective.the narrow gaze of the monster hunt
You're supposed to read it in Arabic because if you read a translation the word of god has been filtered through a human even though it was filtered through a human in the first place.Cyan said:Whoa. I thought translations weren't allowed?
That is hilarious. Sending pic to my college mythology/classics prof, he'll shit bricks. :lolbengraven said:
Ryu said:
I just finished this as well over 3 days. I really enjoyed it! I like these quick read teen aimed books. They just get straight to the point, no BS. Very much Battle Royale, but I felt for the characters. Good stuff. Ordered the sequel as soon as I finished this one.
afternoon delight said:Just finished Last Evenings on Earth by Roberto Bolano. Thirteen short stories full of melancholy and pain and happiness and questioning and reality. There are many moments of absolute perfect recording of suffering and human experience. Bolano seems to understand life so very well, his descriptive power and control of tone/theme/mood is undeniable and immediate. It doesn't have the scope of his novels because its not meant to.
One of my favorite books. Though I disagree with you, the subject matter is very easy not to cringe at.Alucard said:Creepy and satirical at the same time. Nabokov's wordplay is cheesy and delightful at times, but the subject matter is hard not to cringe at.
dude said:One of my favorite books. Though I disagree with you, the subject matter is very easy not to cringe at.
I guess that's how the book should be read, that's why it's so successful. Its ability to make people swallow the bitter pill of the former with the latter.Alucard said:Imagining the various violations of a preteen has been a test at times, though laughing at Humbert Humbert's dramatic prose has eased a bit of that.
BenjaminBirdie said:This exact copy of Stephen King's IT.
It's the one I bought in like 1989. Not only is it one of my favorite books, but from a strict design/color/everything perspective, it is probably my definition of the perfect book cover. Better than the hardcover version because I prefer the author typeface on this one.
I picked it up from storage over the holiday break and it's just pretty fantastic to have it around again. It's like perfectly worn but not falling apart. It's totally awesome.
Mr.FortyFive said:Duma Key was excellent. It had me completely hooked. I'm just hoping Under the Dome can do the same since it's so long.
Falch said:Almost done with the Sound and the Fury. I'm absolutely loving it, perhaps even better than As I Lay Dying. I'm definitely gonna read more Faulkner.
I feel the same way...TheWiicast said:Just finished Under The Dome. An amazing book until the last 100 pages. I was so pissed off by the end that I wondered why I bothered to plow through the 1,000+ pages for a rushed ending that had no context.
I was not satisfied.
END OF BOOK SPOILERS!
What a cop out to have the dome be generated by some alien kids. Then, when Julia actually teleports(!) to where the kids are she just asks and they lift the dome. Retarded.
AND ALL OF IT HAPPENS IN THE LAST 50 PAGES!so dumb.
DarkGiygas said:I feel the same way...
But the rest of it was sooooo good!
You once reviewed Charlie and the Glass Elevator. On GAF. That is something to cringe at, not Lolita.Alucard said:Creepy and satirical at the same time. Nabokov's wordplay is cheesy and delightful at times, but the subject matter is hard not to cringe at.
Alucard said:Imagining the various violations of a preteen has been a test at times, though laughing at Humbert Humbert's dramatic prose has eased a bit of that.