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What are you reading? (November 2014)

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Necrovex

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Reading a few books at the moment:

The New Jim Crows: Mass Incarceration.

About 3/4th of the way through this precious gem, and my opinion remains the same that it is a must read to understand America's current criminal justice system, and the ill, racist effects of The Drug War.

Can't We Talk About Something More Pleasant?

A finalist for this year's National Book Award in nonfiction. A New Yorker Comic artist draws up a memoir involving her family's final years and how she dealt with their upcoming death and the aftermath. Only about fifty pages in, but it's some terrific stuff so far.

An Unnecessary Woman

A finalist in fiction for the 2014 National Book Award. I decided to read through the finalists and the runner ups. I am barely into this work, so I don't have much to say about it at this time

Naruto

An end of an era is about to occur, so I am plowing through the manga. Currently on volume 58.
 

Piecake

Member
Reading a few books at the moment:

The New Jim Crows: Mass Incarceration.

About 3/4th of the way through this precious gem, and my opinion remains the same that it is a must read to understand America's current criminal justice system, and the ill, racist effects of The Drug War.

Can't We Talk About Something More Pleasant?

A finalist for this year's National Book Award in nonfiction. A New Yorker Comic artist draws up a memoir involving her family's final years and how she dealt with their upcoming death and the aftermath. Only about fifty pages in, but it's some terrific stuff so far.

An Unnecessary Woman

A finalist in fiction for the 2014 National Book Award. I decided to read through the finalists and the runner ups. I am barely into this work, so I don't have much to say about it at this time

Naruto

An end of an era is about to occur, so I am plowing through the manga. Currently on volume 58.

The next book you should read is The Warmth of Other Suns. It is a fantastic book and it will give you a deeper understanding why the drug war and mass incarceration ended up being such effective tools of social control. It had quite a bit to do with policies enacted in response to The Great Migration.
 

Mumei

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The next book you should read is The Warmth of Other Suns. It is a fantastic book and it will give you a deeper understanding why the drug war and mass incarceration ended up being such effective tools of social control. It had quite a bit to do with policies enacted in response to The Great Migration.

Great suggestion!
 
Right now I'm reading Rise High The Roofbeam, Carpenter, and Seymour: An Introduction by J. D. Salinger. I'm a huge fan of his stuff. I really am enjoying it so far.

Mumei, what books do you recommend? I'm looking for something fantasy, or science fiction based.
 

Meteorain

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Looking to finally take the leap and read The Count of Monte Cristo. I would like to know which translation is the generally considered the best, if there are any different ones.

I will be reading it on Kindle.
 

Mumei

Member
Looking to finally take the leap and read The Count of Monte Cristo. I would like to know which translation is the generally considered the best, if there are any different ones.

I will be reading it on Kindle.

The only good option for The Count of Monte Cristo in English is Robin Buss' translation for Penguin. Anything else is going to be bowdlerized, abridged, or both.

Right now I'm reading Rise High The Roofbeam, Carpenter, and Seymour: An Introduction by J. D. Salinger. I'm a huge fan of his stuff. I really am enjoying it so far.

Mumei, what books do you recommend? I'm looking for something fantasy, or science fiction based.

I'm really loving Paladin of Souls at the moment, so I'll suggest The Curse of Chalion for fantasy. And for science fiction... have you read The Fifth Head of Cerberus?
 

Jintor

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His Majesty's Dragon by Naomi Novik

As Mumei noted (on my goodreads review), this novel involves dragons, so people who liked dragons may be interested.

In any case - thoroughly enjoyed this. Forgot how much I liked dragons. Very evocative view of the 'reality' so to speak of what aerial warfare might look like given advancement beyond swords and sorcery, though without any sorcery to speak of. A tad overly convenient for the hero sometimes, but it can't be all great all the time.

To expand a little, it captures perhaps the best parts of fantasy - a completely thrilling experience carved entirely out of whole cloth, in this case, aerial combat with entire crews of people riding dragons and using them as bombadiers/mobile gunneries and so on (instead of single riders as in ye olde classic dragons) while also having familiar-sounding locations and references like Nelson v Napoleon, various English towns, and so on. A very different kind of fantasy, though admittedly I don't read much alternate fiction.
 

DeadTsar

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Finished Cryptonomicon, definitely my new favourite book.

Currently reading:

Infinite Crab Meats - Byron Crawford
Your favourite rappers least favourite blogger, definitely a funny read but absolutely offensive in most aspects.

Mort - Terry Pratchet
This was my first Discworld Novel and I'm rereading it as a break between more heavy literature.

After I finish these I'm going to read:

Slaughterhouse 5 - Kurt Vonnegut
I've never read this before and have no idea what it's about, but as its highly recommended I'm gonna give it a go.

Then something from the Gutenburg project as they have a wide selection of books completely free to read!
 

turnbuckle

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Been meaning to read this book for years and finally got around to it. So far it's better than I expected, and I had my expectations set pretty damned high from all the praise.

Excellent book - very enjoyable for even non-fans of the sport. I can see why MLB and several players were so pissed off about it. Would love to learn about a more modern account from a player's perspective, but dunno who would be able to top this.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Finished:
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I liked it, overall, but what it really needed was an editor to wrangle and rein in Vandermeer's own ego. Unfortunately, oh-so-clever Vandermeer wrote the story from perspective of a lonely, bitter and tired old woman rambling to herself. A concise narrative would be actually be out of character. To add insult to injury, he has a second narrator concurrently critiquing the first, pointing out her digressions (dohohoh) and transgressions (do you see what he did there what a card that Vandermeer).

And for his final magic trick, he reveals that the entire story was "published" by an acquaintance of the main narrator, who just happens to be an editor. The autobiography was left as-is, for plot-related reasons, except for the main narrator's "grammatical mistakes".

God damn you Vandermeer, God damn you to heck.

(At least the wankery was better integrated than in City of Saints and Madmen. It's the small blessings that make all the difference.)

Starting:
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Fungal noir. I can dig it. Much more original than zombie noir in OUTER SPACE.
 

Celegus

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Storm front by Jim Butcher.

This will be the 3rd or 4th time I've picked this up. It never really grabbed me but everyone kept saying how good it gets later on, so I had another go and I seem to be sticking with it this time around.

I'm so glad I kept up with it. I didn't care much for the first two, but it honestly does pick up tremendously with the third and hasn't let up the gas yet (Ghost Story was my least favorite, but still not bad).

I started on The Martian yesterday and really liking it so far. Got a ton of books on my to-read list over the winter!
 

Mr.Mike

Member
Generals Die in Bed by Christian Yale Harrison.

Admittedly this is a book I have to read for a history class, but it is fantastic so far. It's a great Canadian novella about the Great War, written by an American who fought for the Canadian Army in WWI. It does a great job sharing the experience of being a soldier in the war, somehow doing a much better job at this than the diaries of a soldier (which I've also had to read for this class). I think this might be because often soldiers were writing to record what happened, and to share their experience with their family back home (a lot of self-censorship would happen because of this, I'd imagine). Harrison meanwhile, is more focused on relaying how it felt to be a soldier in the war, better conveying the internal struggles of the infantry. It helps that he main character is very relateable to me, allowing me to imagine how I might feel in the character's shoes.

It's a very short book (~130 pages) and I highly recommend it, based on what I've read so far. It's also available for free through project Gutenberg http://www.gutenberg.ca/ebooks/harrisoncy-generalsdieinbed/harrisoncy-generalsdieinbed-00-h.html.
 
Just read the unabridged robin buss translation of the Count of Monte Cristo for the first time since I was 14 or 15...my god it is such a fantastic book. May be my favorite of all time. I forgot how philosophical the book gets at points, and how quickly the story moves along. I also forgot what a dick the count was (understandable considering what he went through). What do I even read now that can match up??

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I got the audiobook of this due to the last thread. 47 hours. Holy fuck.

I'm 1/3 of the way through Acceptance and it's downright brisk compared to the other two.
 

His Majesty's Dragon by Naomi Novik

As Mumei noted (on my goodreads review), this novel involves dragons, so people who liked dragons may be interested.

In any case - thoroughly enjoyed this. Forgot how much I liked dragons. Very evocative view of the 'reality' so to speak of what aerial warfare might look like given advancement beyond swords and sorcery, though without any sorcery to speak of. A tad overly convenient for the hero sometimes, but it can't be all great all the time.

To expand a little, it captures perhaps the best parts of fantasy - a completely thrilling experience carved entirely out of whole cloth, in this case, aerial combat with entire crews of people riding dragons and using them as bombadiers/mobile gunneries and so on (instead of single riders as in ye olde classic dragons) while also having familiar-sounding locations and references like Nelson v Napoleon, various English towns, and so on. A very different kind of fantasy, though admittedly I don't read much alternate fiction.

Would you say that a 4th grader who is reading at a 6th grade level be OK with this? It's really hard finding something that challenges him at this point.
 

aidan

Hugo Award Winning Author and Editor
Would you say that a 4th grader who is reading at a 6th grade level be OK with this? It's really hard finding something that challenges him at this point.

Give him Finnegans Wake or Gravity's Rainbow.
 
About to finish this:

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It's almost depressing. You can feel the defeatism mounting on every page as he deals with mishap after mishap with the soldiers there. Extremely interesting to see how everything applied during the Cuban revolution failed to work in the Congo.

A co worker lent me Gone Girl (I loved the film), and I'm probably going to finish that before I delve into the Bolivian diary.
 

Mumei

Member
Would you say that a 4th grader who is reading at a 6th grade level be OK with this? It's really hard finding something that challenges him at this point.

Doesn't "fourth grader reading at a sixth grade level" mean that he's reading fourth grade material about as well as a sixth grader would, and not that he's necessarily able to confidently read material written for someone at a sixth grade reading level?

In any case, I'd suggest:

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Necrovex

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A Wizard of Earthsea was such a major disappointment to me. I hated the writing style, and I was bored senseless by it. :-(
 

Krowley

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A Wizard of Earthsea was such a major disappointment to me. I hated the writing style, and I was bored senseless by it. :-(


I guess tastes can vary, but I've always thought Le Guin's writing style was a strong point. She has such a beautiful gift for painting with words.

Reading that book (for me) was like being sucked into someone else's dream.
 

bengraven

Member
I'm at the last book of the 2nd trilogy (Fool's Faye) and I am so tired of Fitz wallowing in self pity. I hope it stops soon.

He does it himself. His lies, despite his good intentions, hurt him in the end, over and over again. I mean, yes, he's a bastard that many hate, but if he wanted to take a part in the ruling, declare himself, and be more proactive I don't think there's a single major character that wouldn't let him - big fucking deal if there's a stable hand or some lesser lord three duchies away who know he's "witted". But instead, he hides in his self pity and humble purgatory.
 
Does your copy end at Candle in the Wind or The Book of Merlyn? My physical copy ends at Candle in the Wind, but I recently got a version on Audible that adds Book of Merlyn.

Maybe it's because it wasn't there in my first read through, but BoM feels very tacked on. Not a fan. Don't much care for BoM's ending, either.

Mine is the Kindle UK version, I believe it has Book of Merlin included.
 

Steto96

Neo Member
So ... last month I started Beautiful Creatures by Kami Garcia.
I had a difficult time starting it, then, nearly 50-60 pages in, I put it down. Such a poorly written book (but my first reading rule states that I can't begin a book without finishing it, damn me!)
I dropped after that the Forgettable Protagonist (who sounds like a caustic old woman) has a "prediction", takes the car and finally talks to his soon-to-be love interest. Dude, WTF? Just let them meet in the hallway of the school!

Now I started Luck in the shadows by Lynn Flewelling, a "classic fantasy directly from the 90s" (I recently discovered it came out in the same year I was born)
I'm 150 page in and it's quite difficult to go on. Infodumps, infodumps everywhere.
The story is about a young boy who escapes from a prison thanks to a legendary thief (yes, I f-ing love the Badass Thief Trope, that's why I chose this book) and become his apprentice. I won't drop this one as I'm too far in it, hope it get better soon
 
Had a false start with Blood Meridian. I got about 50 pages in and then put it down. I'm sure it's great and all but I realized I'm definitely not in the mood for a few hundred pages of grisly violence. I wanted something that's more of a story, sooo...

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The Bone Clocks by David Mitchell

Pretty engrossing so far. Plus I'm learning all sorts of new British slang.
 
Give him Finnegans Wake or Gravity's Rainbow.
But then I'd have to read it first to be sure it's OK and I don't want to hate myself right now.
Doesn't "fourth grader reading at a sixth grade level" mean that he's reading fourth grade material about as well as a sixth grader would, and not that he's necessarily able to confidently read material written for someone at a sixth grade reading level?

In any case, I'd suggest:

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I base that on his teacher's statement at the last parent/teacher meeting. I like the suggestions and have put them on hold at the library.
 

Mumei

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I guess tastes can vary, but I've always thought Le Guin's writing style was a strong point. She has such a beautiful gift for painting with words.

Reading that book (for me) was like being sucked into someone else's dream.

In [undeserved] fairness, he might have come to it expecting to be something other than what it was. I had to adjust my expectations after first coming to it having read comparisons to Harry Potter. And if you come to a book with the wrong expectations, sometimes the gap between what you were expecting and what you got can make it harder to appreciate a book for what it is, on its terms.

I base that on his teacher's statement at the last parent/teacher meeting. I like the suggestions and have put them on hold at the library.

Yeah, that's a grade equivalent reading score:

What exactly is a grade-equivalent score, and what does it tell me about my child's abilities?

Grade equivalent scores are the most misinterpreted scores provided by testing companies. For example, when a score report indicates an eighth grade reading level for your third grader it means that your third grader is reading third grade material as well as an eighth grader would read it. The score report does not mean your third grader is reading at the eighth grade level. After all, eighth grade reading material was not on the third grade test. For additional insight into interpreting test scores see

And this is a more elaborate explanation of how this works. I first learned about this through talking with a neighbor about her kids' reading levels, and how she learned what that phrase "reading at X grade level" means.
 

Mr.Swag

Banned
Reading "The Stand" so much that I actually had an apocalyptic dream. Top three dreams in production value I've ever had.
 

Necrovex

Member
In [undeserved] fairness, he might have come to it expecting to be something other than what it was. I had to adjust my expectations after first coming to it having read comparisons to Harry Potter. And if you come to a book with the wrong expectations, sometimes the gap between what you were expecting and what you got can make it harder to appreciate a book for what it is, on its terms.

Yeah, I expected a whole different type of animal than what I was given. This isn't the first time expectations has ruined a form of media (i.e. Bug). I may attempt to reread Earthsea in a year or so, now I have some idea what to expect from Guin's writing style.

Also, I just completed The New Jim Crow. A must-read work. Now it's time to complete Preacher.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
People comparing Earthsea to Harry Potter.

I LAUGH.
 
The only good option for The Count of Monte Cristo in English is Robin Buss' translation for Penguin. Anything else is going to be bowdlerized, abridged, or both.



I'm really loving Paladin of Souls at the moment, so I'll suggest The Curse of Chalion for fantasy. And for science fiction... have you read The Fifth Head of Cerberus?

I never read that book. I'll check it out ^^
 

soultron

Banned
Red to Black Alex Dryden
I love Soviet fiction, so this one has been enjoyable so far. It opens with a spike and then quickly lowers itself back down to a simmer as we learn the origins of a KGB/SVN spy who's in love with a M16 agent who's planted in Russia during the beginning of Putin's succession to power. Hoping that I'll get over the hump soon and the plot will pick up where the story initially opened on or else I may drop it soon.

The Power of Habit Charles Duhigg
Tearing through this one. Duhigg's ability to weave multiple realworld narratives -- ranging from business to sports -- in with findings from psychological studies is fascinating. Reading about things like how toothpaste became an American sensation due to a pointed marketing campaign is amazing, as is finding out how simple changes in approaches to marketing completely changed the fate of P&G's once-nosediving Febreze into what it is today.
 

fakefaker

Member
My gf is currently going to college and is sometimes too tired to do anything. Instead of watching tv, I figured we could cuddle on the couch and I could read to her. The first book we chose was some 60's sci-fi novel that really didn't roll off the tongue well. Plus she likes to ask silly questions about unimportant stuff cuz she's a dork, which makes us laugh and breaks up the flow of an already dry book. So, wondering if there were any recommendations for a easy to read, humorous, sci-fi or fantasy book out there. Don't care for Hitchhikers, but I've heard Pratchett is good, but open to suggestions.
 

Shengar

Member
Finished with this, I know why my soccer and FM addict friend called it as bible of soccer books. It's really well written and thoroughly researched book all around. Jonathan Wilson wrote not only the tactics, but also the people behind it as their background is particularly important to the innovation they brought to the game. This what makes Inverting The Pyramid feels so rich in knowledge it presented. Even when you're not really used to soccer tactic jargon, let alone put a great deal of interest in the tactic, Inverting The Pyramid is still a very good book to read for the knowledge itself if soccer caught your interest. Because to be honest, I'm not really used to the jargon, but the knowledge beside the tactics is so rich that it doesn't let me wholly confused.

Well, you're wrong.

People have said great things about Le Guin, but her work is many and it kinda makes me overwhelmed. Could you give me a good starting point for her works?
 
My gf is currently going to college and is sometimes too tired to do anything. Instead of watching tv, I figured we could cuddle on the couch and I could read to her. The first book we chose was some 60's sci-fi novel that really didn't roll off the tongue well. Plus she likes to ask silly questions about unimportant stuff cuz she's a dork, which makes us laugh and breaks up the flow of an already dry book. So, wondering if there were any recommendations for a easy to read, humorous, sci-fi or fantasy book out there. Don't care for Hitchhikers, but I've heard Pratchett is good, but open to suggestions.
Good Omens
 

O.DOGG

Member
The Power of Habit Charles Duhigg

Tearing through this one. Duhigg's ability to weave multiple realworld narratives -- ranging from business to sports -- in with findings from psychological studies is fascinating. Reading about things like how toothpaste became an American sensation due to a pointed marketing campaign is amazing, as is finding out how simple changes in approaches to marketing completely changed the fate of P&G's once-nosediving Febreze into what it is today.

This sounds interesting. Will check it out. Thanks!
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
The translated version here have "Novel that inspired Harry Potter" label on its cover. Should I laugh or burned it?

Grudging tolerance, I guess, because it implies Harry Potter is simply an imitation (and a poor one at that).
 

Mumei

Member
Haly:

Q: Nicholas Lezard has written 'Rowling can type, but Le Guin can write.' What do you make of this comment in the light of the phenomenal success of the Potter books? I'd like to hear your opinion of JK Rowling's writing style

UKL: I have no great opinion of it. When so many adult critics were carrying on about the "incredible originality" of the first Harry Potter book, I read it to find out what the fuss was about, and remained somewhat puzzled; it seemed a lively kid's fantasy crossed with a "school novel", good fare for its age group, but stylistically ordinary, imaginatively derivative, and ethically rather mean-spirited.

I never read that book. I'll check it out ^^

Make sure to get the novel-length version, which includes three novella length stories (The Fifth Head of Cerberus, "A Story," by John V. Marsch, and V.R.T.), which are interconnected. You won't get the full experience if you just read the titular story.

Finished with this, I know why my soccer and FM addict friend called it as bible of soccer books. It's really well written and thoroughly researched book all around. Jonathan Wilson wrote not only the tactics, but also the people behind it as their background is particularly important to the innovation they brought to the game. This what makes Inverting The Pyramid feels so rich in knowledge it presented. Even when you're not really used to soccer tactic jargon, let alone put a great deal of interest in the tactic, Inverting The Pyramid is still a very good book to read for the knowledge itself if soccer caught your interest. Because to be honest, I'm not really used to the jargon, but the knowledge beside the tactics is so rich that it doesn't let me wholly confused.

Inverting the Pyramid is a great book, yes. I'm glad it was suggested to me.

People have said great things about Le Guin, but her work is many and it kinda makes me overwhelmed. Could you give me a good starting point for her works?

Well, you could start with A Wizard of Earthsea, which is the first book in her Earthsea series. The first three books in that series form something of a trilogy, though there are more books after that. I haven't read them yet, myself. Or you could start with one of her Hainish Cycle novels, if you aren't interested in fantasy, which is a set of science fiction novels largely unconnected except that they are all within the same universe. The best known (and best) books in that group are The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed. I don't think that The Word for World is Forest is quite as good as those, but it is still very, very good.

There are also several great short story collections, like Four Ways to Forgiveness or The Wind's Twelve Quarters, which might be a fine starting point as well.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.

In line with how I feel about Harry Potter. It was fun until it went into self parody territory. Any favorable comparison with Earthsea would uplift Potter, but diminish Earthsea.

They both have wizards and schools and schools of wizards. That's about it.
 
My gf is currently going to college and is sometimes too tired to do anything. Instead of watching tv, I figured we could cuddle on the couch and I could read to her. The first book we chose was some 60's sci-fi novel that really didn't roll off the tongue well. Plus she likes to ask silly questions about unimportant stuff cuz she's a dork, which makes us laugh and breaks up the flow of an already dry book. So, wondering if there were any recommendations for a easy to read, humorous, sci-fi or fantasy book out there. Don't care for Hitchhikers, but I've heard Pratchett is good, but open to suggestions.

Jack Handey's The Stench of Honolulu. It's brilliant.
 
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