What if Xbox brought back Peter Moore

wvnative said:
People seem to not understand that the issue is the entire culture at Microsoft, no one exec can fix this shit.
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I don't disagree with you at all, but to OP's question, surely Xbox couldn't do any worse under Moore. Just my opinion but I also have more faith that Peter could assemble the right group to improve the work culture than anyone else that's currently there, off the top of my head.
 
If Xbox could run itself, and could get rid of this vision they need to be first or not at all, then they can worry about leadership.

Their culture doesn't permit them to be successful.

What's wrong with being in third place to Sony or Nintendo if you had a great console, great exclusives, and delivered experiences like Xbox 360 did? If you're profitable then it's all good.

Microsoft won't allow it. So instead of fighting to be in third place they shifted to this anything is a Xbox, gamepass focused, no exclusive model that they think is consumer forward and allows them to run their own race. Metrics no one else uses they can use internally to look good to each other at the 2 o clock dick sucking contest.

Leadership will never matter now. They will be tasked to keep doing what Phil Spencer allowed to happen. He got them out of the third place rat race.

That's why Xbox is dead.
 
Arsic said:
If Xbox could run itself, and could get rid of this vision they need to be first or not at all, then they can worry about leadership.

Their culture doesn't permit them to be successful.

What's wrong with being in third place to Sony or Nintendo if you had a great console, great exclusives, and delivered experiences like Xbox 360 did? If you're profitable then it's all good.

Microsoft won't allow it. So instead of fighting to be in third place they shifted to this anything is a Xbox, gamepass focused, no exclusive model that they think is consumer forward and allows them to run their own race. Metrics no one else uses they can use internally to look good to each other at the 2 o clock dick sucking contest.

Leadership will never matter now. They will be tasked to keep doing what Phil Spencer allowed to happen. He got them out of the third place rat race.

That's why Xbox is dead.
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I never understood why they didn't just accept their niche. Become the American box like they were in the 7th gen. Fuck it, you aren't outselling PS or nintendo globally. And you never were. They were around first, localize better, accept your niche. You hit the nail on the head.
 
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Xbox 360 slim said:
Xbox has gotta clean house to be fixed. The cancer is too deep. Spencer, Booty, and Greenberg have gotta go.

Spencer has only done two good things in 10 years. Backwards compat and making all Xbox games playable on PC.
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I don't agree with you over Phil, but have not time for that twat Booty and while I like Greenberg, he is poor at at his job and needs to be moved

To get back to the point, Moore was a massive loss to both SEGA and Xbox IMO.
 
Team Andromeda said:
I don't agree with you over Phil, but have not time for that twat Booty and while I like Greenberg, he is poor at at his job and needs to be moved

To get back to the point, Moore was a massive loss to both SEGA and Xbox IMO.
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Greenberg has been head of marketing for years and when's the last time you saw an Xbox ad on TV?
 
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Team Andromeda said:
Peter was the best boss SEGA America ever had too IMO .

To fix Xbox, just sell ABK…
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…and…

- reassemble the old Bungie team to make Halo games
- reassemble the old Epic team to make Gears games
- reassemble the old Bizarre team to make PGR games
- start producing consoles with disc drives again
- bring back the physical media team and pipelines
- sell the next console at a huge loss to prise PlayStation users who have 2 generations worth of digital libraries away

…and most importantly…

- sack all the management and completely change the company culture with regards to gaming
 
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RetroGamingUK said:
…and…

- reassemble the old Bungie team to make Halo games
- reassemble the old Epic team to make Gears games
- reassemble the old Bizarre team to make PGR games
- start producing consoles with disc drives again
- bring back the physical media team and pipelines
- sell the next console at a huge loss to prise PlayStation users who have 2 generations worth of digital libraries away

…and most importantly…

- sack all the management and completely change the company culture with regards to gaming
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And you're a PlayStation fanboy

And most importantly... are trolling


BYE!!!
 
Problem comes from the top. And there's nothing you can do about that. All these execs I'm convinced are not in charge of anything and are simply pawns.
 
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Microsoft C-Suite has zero interest in turning a tidy profit selling game boxes and software licenses. The only interest they have is total market domination. Anything short of that is a failure. It doesn't matter who they bring in, with a goal that like it's not going to work. Fundamentally.

In hindsight, the OG Xbox was an amazing console with an amazing library. In a perfect world they would reboot that model. Not really interested in anything else from them. Even then, it only mattered because gaming PCs were so much more expensive back then (relatively). The PC market today just doesn't leave room for a new OG Xbox.
 
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Xbox 360 slim said:
Would he be able to turn around the disaster that is modern Xbox?
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I think he would be one of the few people who would be able to do it.

Anyway, there are problems. One of the major ones is "would he even want to come back"?
I mean, it seems to me that he has a "I want to win" mentality. As a Manager he won the european championsleague, which is the #2 most prestigious titles in international sports (after the world cup). Once you did this, you probably don't want to come back to an XBox at the bottom.

The other problem is, would the higher ups at Microsoft would even allow him to do whats necessary? He would have to purge pretty much the full XBox management and replace it with able people with the same "I want to win" mentality. Would Microsoft let him do that?

Anyway, I am afraid that Xbox as hardware has no real future, no matter who is on the helm. But with a guy like Peter Moore you would be able to get the game studios in order and working and releasing a steady flow of software, and as a giving back protect them from the pseudo random firing sprees like Microsoft likes to do at random times...
Just think what would be in your mind if you are a gamedev at a Xbox studio and see that even extremely successfull games like Cod, Candy Crush and others don't protect you from being fired or closed down.
 
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Team Andromeda said:
You show me where Xbox has been in the RED since the 360 days? And we'll have a debate
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Sure bud so it's clear you don't want that conversation knowing it's a little difficult considering xbox go out of their way to hide such losses, but as I said already, as per SneakerSO:
SneakersSO said:
I have been told in clear terms that, outside of a few quarters in the 2nd half of the 360's lifecycle, the only time Xbox has operated at something resembling profitability was after ABK's earnings were integrated into their reporting.
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I don't know if anyone locked into the Sony store with purchases from the PS4 and PS5 generation would really be interested in switching to Xbox. It does not matter how good their next console is. They lost the worst generation to lose, right when people were moving from physical to digital and building their libraries.

For Xbox to have any relevance left, they need to embrace Windows as an open platform and make their hardware a hybrid PC, with both set-top boxes and portable options.

Nobody in their right mind who is locked into one walled-off garden will want to switch to another walled-off garden.
 
Team Andromeda said:
Peter was the best boss SEGA America ever had too IMO .

To fix Xbox, just sell ABK
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Moore once told the interpreter to tell the Japanese leadership to go fuck themselves because they were too stubborn to listen to him and believe that Sega was falling behind, accusing him of swaying the data.

Then he went to Microsoft and helped lead them into the Xbox 360.

He's getting on but seems in good knick, can't help but think a grounded, no-bullshit type is just what's needed. That said, I'd worry that no matter how strong Moore or anyone else is that steps in, MS will probably make it impossible to turn things around at this point. If I was MS back in 2007 I'd have been throwing money at Moore to stay around, Xbox should've been his baby for many years to come.
 
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Would be useless

Concept of unique locked down plastic box hardware is dead to Xbox

You'll have Xbox or microsoft publishing, regardless, they'll publish games 🤷‍♂️
Moore going back into the arena with a plastic box would likely just end up a flop, peoples wouldn't trust exclusive xbox hardware anymore.
 
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