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[the androgyne]

Matt's recent comments struck me as odd..

Ballpark: How many first party launch games will we see, and what do you think they will be?

Don't know. I expect at least two. My guess would be Smash Bros. and Metroid Prime

I mean, both of those are pretty much handled externally from NCL, with input from NCL directors/producers right?

Personally, i think Zelda is just about done if not done already - and EAD themselves have prepared Mario and various non-games perhaps wario ware, or cooking etc.

I know some on the forums think Mario at launch is a long shot but seriously - what the hell are they doing, all of the staff working on Zelda?

 

[DefectiveReject]

Well I think Mario is a guarantee.
Iwata has said MANY times that to launch without Mario again would not be wise. And Mario is the best way for Nintendo to show off the controller.
I’d say Mario and Metroid Prime 3 for launch (prime to show FPS’ and schmups how to do it).

I’d then say within the first few months we’ll get Pikmin 3, Super Smash Brothers, New Franchise, Wario Ware and Nintendogs.

 

[Kobun Heat]

I mean, both of those are pretty much handled externally from NCL, with input from NCL directors/producers right?

Yes.

Personally, i think Zelda is just about done if not done already

Not even friggin' close.

and EAD themselves have prepared Mario and various non-games perhaps wario ware, or cooking etc.

Probably.

I know some on the forums think Mario at launch is a long shot

I think they realize now how important Mario is at launch.

 

[Community Forum]

 

[I <3 Katamari]

Remember, Matt should always be listened to.

 

[metropolis]

super smash bros = $$$

 

[Ganondorf>Link]

I think Matt is way off. Metroid and Smash probably won't come out until 2007. I would expect Mario and the new IP at launch.

 

[cvxfreak]

A good launch would mimic the DS's Japanese one. Two recognizable franchises, and then lots of new quirky titles. I think Mario and Wario ought to be the launching duo for Nintendo Revolution, and then follow up with Smash Bros. Metroid Prime obviously can replace Wario in the west.

 

[LiquidMamba]

I hope it is Mario and the new IP in November, then Smash brothers in december. Without and Revmote "tech demo" games just for filler.

 

[the androgyne]

Not even friggin' close.

OK - well in the very least, i think it will be finished long before it actually comes out cause it's all about the timing now.

 

[Kobun Heat]

OK - well in the very least, i think it will be finished long before it actually comes out cause it's all about the timing now.

That... what? Wait. Are you talking about Twilight Princess? If so, why?

 

[Gahiggidy]

Super Mario Revolution

 

[the androgyne]

Absolutely nothing to back me up Just a hunch basically. It's had too many delays even for a Nintendo game IMO - i think it's ready or will be soon, and just being held back for optimum timing. I'd say they maybe slipped to june/july and then decided to just hold it back till Rev launch.

TOTALLY UNFOUNDED.. but yeah Of course we'll probably never know.

 

[meltpotato]

i highly doubt SSBR and MP3 at the same time. they have too similar a target and must be staggered.

the two i will predict (although id bet atleast three considering whole much nintendo is raking in 1st party these days) is one mascot sport/activity title that focuses on the control aspect and SSMR

 

[LiquidMamba]

Nintendo should use all the time and resources they can if they plan for the game to be the last hurrah for Gamecube and a launch title for the Revolution. Assuming thats the case. It would be a shame if the controller was just used to move Link's sword around.

 

[Oblivion]

No way in hell we're gonna get SSB (or at least a WORTHY) sequel at launch if those imbeciles JUST started development.

And I'm not too confidant about Mario either. As with SSB, the way Shiggy speaks, it sounds like they've just been brainstorming all this time.

 

[Companion Cube]

It better be the best damned line-up ever or else.... I'll only buy 2 extra controllers instead of 3.

 

[Chittagong]

I'd say Wario Ware is a guaranteed launch title. Perfect way of demonstrating the wand with almost tech-demo like content.

 

[the androgyne]

No way in hell we're gonna get SSB (or at least a WORTHY) sequel at launch if those imbeciles JUST started development.

And I'm not too confidant about Mario either. As with SSB, the way Shiggy speaks, it sounds like they've just been brainstorming all this time.

So they'll have no games huh? BEST LAUNCH EVER.

 

[Kobun Heat]

Absolutely nothing to back me up

Oh, I don't know. Maybe so. But that still doesn't answer why you mentioned it in a Revolution launch thread; I thought you were talking about Zelda-Revolution which there's no way is happening anywhere close to launch. Obviously.

Uh, at any rate: team Zelda is still hard at work, but that's not all of EAD.

 

[Oblivion]

So they'll have no games huh? BEST LAUNCH EVER.

I didn't say that. I said we won't get SSB and Mario at launch.

 

[Gahiggidy]

Shigs has been talkin about maaiio 128 since soon after sunshine was rekeased, what is that... four years to make happen. Goota b there in tiem,,,its not a party with out our plunmbrt.]]] ]

to have his new game delaaeyd *tsn j=not an option| wev=deamnd it! I DEMAND (T!!!


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[the androgyne]

..... I thought you were talking about Zelda-Revolution which there's no way is happening anywhere close to launch. Obviously.

Sorry, didn't mean that Just the general consensus that they'll be launching TP at or on launch day with Rev to showcase BC.

I didn't say that. I said we won't get SSB and Mario at launch.

Well if not, they've got to be launch-window titles at least. I hope there's 2 new franchises, one non-game one real game in the launch-window pipeline.

 

[DefectiveReject]

DS game development teams obviously aren’t very big so a lot of EAD resource won’t of been used.
What have we had in the last year on the console front from “Nintendo themselves!” (developed)?

Haven’t
Chibi-Robo
Odama
Super Mario Strikers
Super Mario Baseball
Star-Fox Assault
Geist
Yadda yadda yadda all been developed externally?

EAD must really be up to something as I know; there are a lot of DS games from Nintendo, but they are all small teams.

 

[MrSardonic]

Whatever Nintendo produce for launch, I'd be pretty shocked if they didn't provide a mix of known franchises and totally new ideas. Obviously they'd need to show people exactly what kind of new ideas are possible on this machine, and I'd assume they'd want novel forms of software to attract this new audience they are after.

I'm going to guess that Nintendo will release around 6 games within the first month of launch...maybe more if they decide to make a batch of smaller titles that retail for $20 - $30 (following the DS model of software strata)?

 

[Hyoushi]

If there is something new from Studio Tokyo, I am so on board. <3

 

[Snow]

From an Iwata interview:

Mario 128, which Miyamoto has previously confirmed as being in development, was also mentioned. Iwata reportedly asked Miyamoto to have the new Mario game ready for the Revolution's launch, saying that [he] feels as a gamer that Nintendo need the title at launch.

A long shot? Maybe. But I sure hope so.

 

[lo zaffo]

If there is something new from Studio Tokyo, I am so on board. <3

QFT

Plus, I will not buy any Wario Ware Revolution, Mario Party Number (maybe 9) kind of games even if they could be the only launch titles.

 

[soundwave05]

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (dual GC/Rev format title) at launch
Smash Bros. 3 or Super Mario Revolution shortly thereafter
Wave Race or Pilotwings from NST

The rest will be completely new IPs. I would expect at least 2 new franchises in the launch window, if not more.

Nintendo's learned I think from the DS, they don't need to rely so much on the old franchises. Getting new hit franchises on the Rev like they did on the DS will make or break the system ... not Mario or Metroid or Smash Bros.

Metroid will be a 2007 title.

 

[Cheerilee]

IGN

June 20, 2003 - The latest issue of Japan's Nintendo Dream magazine is apparently home to good news for Mario fanatics who were a bit disappointed with Mario Sunshine. According to the magazine, Nintendo's upcoming Mario 128 title is being built around a new idea that's never before been seen in a game. Apparently, Nintendo refrained from putting the title on display at E3 in order to prevent it from being stolen.

Remember, the Revmote was supposed to have originally been conceived as a GameCube add-on.

 

[soundwave05]

It's possible they want a more "pick up and play" Mario .... returning more to his roots.

The NES/SNES Marios were games that everyone could play, so I think they might want to get back to that ... that may be why Iwata wants Mario at launch so bad, in addition to the obvious sales reasons.

It'd be a big winner from a casual fan's perspective.

If Zelda is also a fall (possibly November title) title though ... would Nintendo release a new Mario AND Zelda so close to each other? Would be interesting for sure.

 

[Infernal Monkey]

Pilotwings.

Spoiler

plz =(

 

[Ganondorf>Link]

It's possible they want a more "pick up and play" Mario .... returning more to his roots.

The NES/SNES Marios were games that everyone could play, so I think they might want to get back to that ... that may be why Iwata wants Mario at launch so bad, in addition to the obvious sales reasons.

It'd be a big winner from a casual fan's perspective.

If Zelda is also a fall (possibly November title) title though ... would Nintendo release a new Mario AND Zelda so close to each other? Would be interesting for sure.

That would draw both the casual and the hardcore. A new Mario where its the perfect pick up and play game, and the Zelda every gamer has wanted since the GameCube was unveiled.

 

[Xellotah]

Pikmin 3?

Luigi's Mansion 2?

New Franchise featuring cuddly character

Wario Ware

 

[soundwave05]

I think you'll see a lot of stuff like

Golf Training Revolution
Symphony Conductor
Nintendo Bass Fishing

Too. New IPs that can appeal to older adults who find fantasy-based video games to not be their cup of tea ... just like that audience has responded to the more "serious" Brain Training.

These types of games can probably be made a lot faster too with smaller teams.

 

[imastalker co.]

Nintendo should blow a mini load during the launch window. controller aside, it's the only way they're really gonna make the western market wake up and take serious notice.

in japan, the revolution is gonna be huge. it'll sell so long as it has 1 or 2 solid titles.

if they wanna have japanese DS like sales in the US though, they're gonna need games that take over as hard as Nintendogs, Brain Training, Animal Crossing, and Mario Kart (im not suggesting, or implying that the line up should consist of non-games).
i think a launch window of Mario, Smash Bros, Good FPS, Mario Party, Non-Games, New IP, NST game, and the one that would probably came way the fuck out of nowhere, new IRD game. this line up would pretty much put everyone in their place as far how to use the controller. consumers and developers. another thing, not that i think it's a revolution system seller, but Zelda will probably end up getting played on a lot of Revolutions. virtual console is also an obvious system seller.

Nintendo would once again only have to rely on themselves to push a lot of hardware with a launch window like that. although 3rd party support is gonna be great. it'll be interesting to see how 3rd parties sell on the system though.

..... i have a really strange hunch some type of Luigi's Mansion game, or scenerio is gonna be in that launch window as well.

 

[ziran]

mario
warioware
new franchise

 

[acidviper]

Zoonami where arthou?

 

[soundwave05]

Nintendo will absolutely blow a big oppurtunity if they do Luigi's Mansion 2 instead of a real survival horror game.

A real horror title like that could became really popular with casual horror movie fans, like women ... because it'd be so easy to play (everyone knows how to point a flashlight).

They need to stop putting a mascot character in every game, it starts to make their overall library look generic. They've done much better with the DS in this respect.

If they have a fishing title for instance it doesn't need to be Mario Fishing.

If they're doing the Symphony Conductor thing, then get a popular musical conductor from Japan to give the game a touch of class (like the professor in Brain Training) ... don't use Wario or something.

 

[Mojojo]

-New Mario Bros
-Smash Bros
-Wario Ware(mini-games/puzzles)

and in the launch window/Xmas period :
-New Duck Hunt
-Pilotwings
-Nintendo's Pet care (interactivity with the next DS pet simulator) or a Brain training thing

 

[SantaC]

Not even friggin' close.

Have they redone zelda totally or something? For a game that should have been ready 4 months ago, not friggin close sounds very akward.

 

[DefectiveReject]

Have they redone zelda totally or something? For a game that should have been ready 4 months ago, not friggin close sounds very akward.

i think he was talking about Rev Zelda not TP

 

[soundwave05]

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Super Mario Revolution
Pilotwings or Wave Race Revolution (NST)
New EAD Franchise with extensive Revmote use

Golf Training
Symphony Conductor
Nintendo Bass Fishing
Nintendo Party Game

Namco Big Head Baseball
Time Crisis 3
Winning 11 Revolution

Wacky Yuji Naka Project
Monkey Ball Revolution

UBI Soft FPS

Star Wars Lightsaber Fighter?

Madden NFL w/Revmote control
FIFA 2007 w/Revmote control
Harry Potter w/Revmote control
Casino Royale w/Revmote control

 

[superfly]

Stage Debut please!!!!!

 

[Snow]

Have they redone zelda totally or something? For a game that should have been ready 4 months ago, not friggin close sounds very akward.

Like someone else pointed out, that was probably a misunderstanding between Kobun Heat and Androgyne.

But this still might actually be more accurate than you would think. At least if you trust Twilight Rockstar (yes, I know that he is a bit hype-y and that GAF hates ONM at the moment, but I don't see a reason to assume he's actually lying).

(...)we have seen new stuff and honestly, it'll be worth the wait. Lord knows when we'll be allowed to print stuff though. . . I'm guessing everything is being held back for March.

(...), I'm just saying the reason why nothing is being shown is because an AWFUL LOT of work has gone in since we all saw screens last year and when NCL finally decides to show it you'll see what I mean.

From this thread.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

I think for them to get noticed properly again in the west, an FPS at launch is critical. Was metroid ever supposed to launch with the rev?

I also think it would be pretty sweet in and FPS if you could swing the controller at your enemy for a melee. would be damn satisfying to smack some punk kid over the head I feel.

 

[soundwave05]

If I were at NOA, I'd secure Starcraft: Ghost as an exclusive. That's one of those games that probably is going to get lost this fall as a last-wave PS2 title (I think they're even planning a XBox version still).

It's not an FPS per se, but it's a shooter/stealth game with apparently one helluva multiplayer mode, so it'd probably fill that need for a "cool" Western-centric type of launch title.

But it's probably too late in the game now to rework the game with the Revmote controller and have it ready by fall.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

If I were at NOA, I'd secure Starcraft: Ghost as an exclusive. That's one of those games that probably is going to get lost this fall as a last-wave PS2 title (I think they're even planning a XBox version still).

If I was NOA I would secure regular Starcraft!

 

[soundwave05]

If I was NOA I would secure regular Starcraft!

Well yeah, heh, that'd probably be a bit more unrealistic.

Starcraft: Ghost could probably be had because Blizzard's now stuck in a weird place with that game. It's not likely to sell the numbers it should have so late in the game now.

As a Revolution launch title though it'd get a lot more press, and Nintendo could agree of course to help market the title as well to make it the "GoldenEye" of the Revolution.

 

[Xellotah]

Well yeah, heh, that'd probably be a bit more unrealistic.

Starcraft: Ghost could probably be had because Blizzard's now stuck in a weird place with that game. It's not likely to sell the numbers it should have so late in the game now.

As a Revolution launch title though it'd get a lot more press, and Nintendo could agree of course to help market the title as well to make it the "GoldenEye" of the Revolution.

The reason why the game is stuck is more due to technical reasons rather than strategic reasons, the game will most probably turn out to be a lemon.