What outdated component would you put in a console?

What outdated component would you put in a console?

  • Cpu like wii u did

    Votes: 3 6.1%
  • Media, like N64 and GameCube did

    Votes: 4 8.2%
  • Put a weaker GPU and save money per unit

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Making a powerful console inside an ugly case

    Votes: 27 55.1%
  • another, which one?

    Votes: 14 28.6%

  • Total voters
    49

Geometric-Crusher

"Nintendo games are like indies, and worth at most $19" 🤡
The goal is to maintain an imbalance in the components that allows for a good experience


Cpu like wii u did the CPU was horrible, but if most games were GPU bound, no one would ever find out.
Media, like N64 and GameCube did. Not using CD ROM made Nintendo lose support but using it would make them lose $100 per unit, not using CD allowed Nintendo to have more CPU and GPU power as well as 512kb more memory.
GPU Basically you propose a weaker GPU and save money per unit, however you will face aggressive marketing from the competition, saying that your console runs at a lower resolution even though the games are the same. Using a weak GPU saves money, but when selling the product, its price will have to be cheap, negating the advantage.

Cheap case Making a powerful console but saving on plastic, or something more extreme like not shipping a controller, claiming any controller will do and that the consumer already has one at home. This strategy is good, but having good hardware inside an ugly case is not good.

There's only one way to get the best hardware: pay for it.
The 2001 Xbox was like that, but it lost $4 billion. The GCN failed, but Nintendo made a profit. The average Joe doesn't even notice the huge performance gap between it and the Xbox.

Which option do you choose? This is simplistic, obviously there are other strategic details such as what type of game the hardware will run, etc. One way to hide that your hardware is weak is to avoid third-party productions.
 
I want a console that has a built in VCR
 
Do you understand the meaning, I mean, which component do you think is least detrimental to the user experience among the options mentioned ?
 
Do you understand the meaning, I mean, which component do you think is least detrimental to the user experience among the options mentioned ?
The plastic case is the least detrimental, but plastic is ultra cheap + has an easily sourced alternative (i.e., aluminum) so it's not a factor for any manufacturer. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if one of the next-gen Xbox's comes in a small aluminum case.

As far as what is a factor and can be messed with and not cause a degradation in the user experience, the answer would be the media. All trends are pointing towards physical media being dead -- for all platforms -- in less than a decade. More and more people are buying all of their games digitally so more and more of people's libraries are exclusively digital.

With that in mind, you can ship a console without a disc drive as long as you give people the option to buy a disc drive. We saw that happen at the launch of this gen and I predict we'll see that happen next-gen. However, I predict the big difference will be that the disc drive will be an external accessory rather than built-into one of the SKUs.
 
In my opinion this is simple, as we already saw it happen:
Don't put an outdated drive into the console, but ship it without a disc drive, and sell it separately as optional peripheral.
 
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The plastic case is the least detrimental, but plastic is ultra cheap + has an easily sourced alternative (i.e., aluminum) so it's not a factor for any manufacturer. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if one of the next-gen Xbox's comes in a small aluminum case.
I agree, but if the final decision were mine, I'd choose a weaker GPU, a better case, and a superior controller. But I wouldn't allow multiplatforms that would show that my console is weak. In the eyes of consumers it would be as good as the best console on the market simply because there would be no direct comparison.
 
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I liked memory cards.

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Joystick
Like a Tac-2.
No modern flimsy analog crap.

Cartridges
The slot-in SSD in Xbox Series X is pure perfection. It was just on the back instead of the front. A slot with hot swappable SSD in the front would've been perfect for some premium physical copies.
 
I agree, but if the final decision were mine, I'd choose a weaker GPU, a better case, and a superior controller. But I wouldn't allow multiplatforms that would show that my console is weak. In the eyes of consumers it would be as good as the best console on the market simply because there would be no direct comparison.
Well if a weaker GPU solution doesn't lead to multiplatform games performing worse on your platform, then that makes sense.

But that would require a (legally questionable) graphics/performance parity clause with developers right? Because if company A has a stronger GPU than company B, there would be no reason for developers to ship a deliberately worse version on company A's platform. I don't think this has ever happened in console gaming; the most we've seen is the Xbox content-parity clause, and developers hate it.

What kind of case do you think would be better?
 
The goal is to maintain an imbalance in the components that allows for a good experience


Cpu like wii u did the CPU was horrible, but if most games were GPU bound, no one would ever find out.
So basically a PS4 with FX-4150, 4GB GDDR5 + 32MB eDRAM, R9 280x. Uses AMD's answer to a i3-4150 yet still has games doing 1080p60 90% of the time.


Media, like N64 and GameCube did. Not using CD ROM made Nintendo lose support but using it would make them lose $100 per unit, not using CD allowed Nintendo to have more CPU and GPU power as well as 512kb more memory.
Nintendo screechs when Sony wins using It DDS(Data DAT) for games with faster than CD speeds & having 1.2GB(DDS-1 format). Then sony uses It on the PS2 as DDS-2 giving It 4GB for games with even faster speeds while Xbox brags about DVD-DL. By the 360 ~ PS5 they both use Data-DAT but at 8 ~ 256GB.


GPU Basically you propose a weaker GPU and save money per unit, however you will face aggressive marketing from the competition, saying that your console runs at a lower resolution even though the games are the same. Using a weak GPU saves money, but when selling the product, its price will have to be cheap, negating the advantage.
This Is basically the PS3 with sony using the RSX when they couldn't go dual Cell chips. lol

Cheap case Making a powerful console but saving on plastic, or something more extreme like not shipping a controller, claiming any controller will do and that the consumer already has one at home. This strategy is good, but having good hardware inside an ugly case is not good.
The Xbox Series X uses plastic that has cracking issues causing a ton of recalls & a new model Is made.
 
The jaguar CPU in the PS4 was notoriously slow (actually slower than the PS360 CPUs) and it was an amazing generation with great games that still look good.
The SNES also heavily skimped on the CPU and did quite fine against the Genesis.
 
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A cassette deck. So you have to go and make a cuppa tea whilst the game loads. And then gets an error. So you have to start again. Once the game loads, you make damn sure you actually play it instead of 30 seconds later switching to something else.
 
The jaguar CPU in the PS4 was notoriously slow (actually slower than the PS360 CPUs) and it was an amazing generation with great games that still look good.
The SNES also heavily skimped on the CPU and did quite fine against the Genesis.
this is a myth, the ps360 cpu was equivalent to a core 2 duo 2.4ghz while the jaguar cpu is like fx 4100 3.2ghz.
but, yes, the PS4 was a console without the proper balance and it worked out in terms of engineering.
 
Physics accelerator like the original AGEIA. The tradeoff would be a slower GPU.

Modern GPUs can do all the same work but few games use them for physics. Having a dedicated chip would prevent them from wasting performance on meaningless cruft like chromatic aberration or small resolution increases.
 
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