If you take into account every PC game made on the PC platform this is true since...a lot of people own a PC, whether its for facebook games or etc of course this is true.
What`s the point in buying consoles if they take PC like approaches?
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If you take into account every PC game made on the PC platform this is true since...a lot of people own a PC, whether its for facebook games or etc of course this is true.
I exclusively game on PC now in my front room and this is just about on the money.
There is no way I would recommend building your own box to use in a front room scenario for a plug and play gamer. Yes, PC has come a long way in user experience but it is nowhere near the console ease and convenience. I have to have a keyboard with touchpad knocking about to deal with the Windows side of things. I have to understand there is a portion of games I cannot play because they are mouse only or have UI developed in mind for people pressed up against the monitor across a desk. I love having the Steam community available for games that don't launch or have some quirk or obstacle that gets in the way between me and playing.
But I accept these idiosyncrasies. The benefits for me far outweigh the negatives. However there is a great population who this would be terrible for. I also find it odd, the strange defensiveness over suggesting that a console might actually do things better than a PC.
Agreed.
I spent a few hours once trying to get WiiMotes to work correctly with my PC once too! Its right up there with console install times on some of my favorite gaming memories.
inpHilltr8r
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Or about 10 minutes downloading mods from an improperly secured website.
derExperte
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My PS4 was dead for almost three months and nobody could do anything about it because demand was too high. Not that I missed much but I'll take having to fix something by swapping out one component over that. Also congrats on not having to get your PS1 and 2 fixed or replaced if you bought them early.
I'm pretty sure a dude with a 65" TV or beamer has a nice advantage over me squinting at my 40" one. And then there's input lag which can be a serious issue, that everyone is equal in console-land is nothing more than a comforting myth.
I've had more comfort in the console playing field than the PC one.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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could you not find the sync button?
do you not realize there are non-wii zelda games?
I was just talking about the pure gaming platforms like (primarily) steam. If you expand to social gaming and MOBAs the consoles are so thoroughly dwarfed (in player base, budgets, etc) it becomes an even more laughable discussion/distinction
Moon_frogger
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Hooking up a pc to a tv is often a pretty inferior solution. Not always, but often. It can cause input lag that you won't see from a console, usually has lower pixel density and most tvs Max out at 1080p. A lot of tvs also have non standard resolutions which can cause some weird issues with desktop and certain games. Not something those idenitfy as 'Pc master race' should really be content with. You really need to make sure you buy the right tv in order to have an optimal pc experience. I find it funny that people gloss over these little details in their zeal to prove that consoles are pointless. Also, a lot of pc games aren't designed to be played on a tv and have issues with font, ui, etc. Some games have a 'tv mode' but this is pretty rare. And lastly, any pc game that requires a keyboard and mouse for optimal play is better played at a computer desk in front of a moniter. I realize people will play with their mouse on the coffee table or beside them on the couch but for me it's highly uncomfortable and I doubt I'm alone.
Just some food for thought. I still love pc gaming and have my pc hooked up to both my moniter at a desk and my living room tv right beside it. Awesome setup that occasionally has issues or complications.
texhnolyze
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Some people seem to (still) think that PC gamers can only own a PC. Lots of us actually have both PC and console(s). Don't get too defensive about it. Consoles aren't going anywhere, they're here to stay, especially the PS4.
The Artisan
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1. because I can't play uncharted, or LBP, or yakuza, or other console exclusives (funny how i'm using that term now when usually that means it's also on PC) on a PC.
2. because I like having my laptop for not playing games on. even though as a hardcore gamer it'd be just as enjoyable an experience maybe even better (although I'm on a mac) but it's much easier to play video games on a tv with a console.
3. the PC gaming world would add so many complications in terms of upgrades. although the upgrades would amount to a greater experience it would be a greater expense, and although Ps4 arguably isn't even mid range, I like that it is fixed and set.
Boombloxer
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As usual, you missed the point. I played D3 on one of my 65 inch TVs via kb/m to around 243 Paragon, no desire to do it again.
An I played And beat GTA long before it ran any fps on my computers. Why wait?
BlackGoku03
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I'd say that but a lot of techies don't see it that way. They look at people who don't know what to do like they're imbeciles. I know a lot of IT guys who have great disdain for the people they help. It's easy to fall in that line of thinking but again, I wouldn't have my job if everyone knew their way around fixing and maintaining computers.
That or they're deliberately trying to be obtuse, thereby repping their preferred and superior platform.
It costs less, and looks and plays better?
To Far Away Times
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I wonder the same thing myself sometimes.
Gotta have a few can't miss exclusives for me to justify picking up another box.
Gotta have a few can't miss exclusives for me to justify picking up another box.
BlackGoku03
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I posted why this isn't always the best right under your condescending "HDMI is hard" post.
A snippet:
"-Real comfy couch gaming.
People say they can game from their comfy couch on PC too. I somewhat agree and I've built "couch gaming PCs" before. But it's not really "comfortable". Like I said earlier, when you're not up close to the monitor, you miss some details that others can see because they're simply closer to the image. And, there are a lot of games that have GUIs that are not meant to be seen from far away. Some are outright horrid. "
Did someone honestly say PCs have a better UI than the PS4? I don't believe it, and I'm acclimated to both Microsoft's and Apple's OSs. PS4 is plain simple with entirely dedicated community panels - it's better than Steam, and I've been a Steam fan since it launched with Half Life 2. I also can't believe someone suggested that having a geforce 980 would net you a better experience on some titles, while ignoring the fact that the best 980 on the market is a thousand friggin dollars!
Dictator93
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A 950 gives you a better experience in pretty much every single multiplatform game. That thing does not cost anywhere near a 980, let alone a 980 Ti.
Boombloxer
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2 years later. No thank you. I don't care about cost, I care about being being to play GTA as soon as possible along with 45 million others.
Keep trying.
Super Wario
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No Windows.
Koutsoubas
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The only reason are the exclusives for me. And im really annoyed by the 25fps gaming in many of the new open-world games
Give War A Chance
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Ease of use.
Friends.
Exclusives.
Friends.
Exclusives.
Nameless
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I enjoy gaming on a catch-all multimedia device designed from the ground up for proprietary controller support, a uniform gaming ecosystem, and home theater integration. For the past couple of generations consoles have rested at the heart of my living room and provided incredible value even during long stretches of little-to-no gaming.
ViolentP
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The wait is a non-issue to many of us. Easily done for the increased performance. And a 2 year wait is very rare as well.
I don't like waiting, ain't no body got time fo that. So I agree with him.
derExperte
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Yep, only happened because of the console-gen transition. And the technical deficiencies of GTAV old-gen were hard to impossible to ignore in 2013, can't fault anyone for rather waiting 1.5 years.
Boombloxer
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Not the majority. The increased performance in this case didn't really matter vs playing GTA on day one. And given how many copies were sold before the game came to PC, a lot of buyers felt the same way vs waiting for more performance.
And it is rare, but it happened. Same with RDR. Why bother taking that sort of risk when there's a 299 machine that will get all of those titles?
You need at least 2. I still don't get how one platform serves all needs. Too much stuff to miss.
Solid Samus
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I don't know where you got the idea that a PC's user interface is as easy and intuitive to use as a consoles tbh, especially when hooked up to a TV. I mean, we're all familiar with Windows here, but that doesn't mean that everyone is to the same degree. Not to mention I play my PC games on my 50" sometimes, and Windows isn't terribly conducive to being used on a large TV from a distance unless you know how to utilize DPI scaling and have a comfortable control scheme prepared for navigating. Big Picture Mode does a lot to alleviate these issues but inside of a controller friendly 'platform' that doesn't offer quite as many readily accessible entertainment services (outside of video games of course)
I mean shit, I've got all of my most used programs pinned to my taskbar, but I also play at a desk where I can rotate my chair, set my keyboard in my lap, and use my PC comfortably on my TV from a distance with my kb/m. but that's a setup I've prepared for myself, not one that's always optimal depending on your personal situation, and a PS4 will grant you that basic level of functionality on any old tv right out of the box with the controller it ships with, no hassle.
ViolentP
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No platform serves all needs. I think that is one of the fundamental facts that people need to consider before allowing themselves into arguments about platform superiority. The other being the fact that preferences vary. I completely understand the mentality of wanting to play a game day one. There is nothing wrong with it, and the concept really isn't difficult to understand.
Would I have liked to play GTA5 on PC on day one? Sure. That would have been great. I ended up getting it on PS3 instead. Great game, but I can't lie. Everytime there would be a hitch, I would be reminded of the eventual PC release. I eventually put the game down and simply waited. I had already waited a number of years for the next GTA game, what was another 2?
For my tastes, I'm glad I waited. I became more enveloped in that game when I wasn't worried about performance, and for a game like that, it illustrates why I still love games today.
travisbickle
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Why did people choose consoles when they weren't forward compatible? That's an even worse choice than a console that is forwards compatible.
People buy consoles because they only see themselves playing games for 5 or 6 years at most.
And if they haven't got bored after that, they buy the new one to play the new games for another 5 or 6 years.
Why do you think Halo 5s sales were shit? Because most of the people playing the previous ones 5-10 years ago aren't playing video games anymore.