ThoseDeafMutes
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What's the best Pink Floyd Album [to start with]
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ShinobiFist
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Animals.....So fucking smooth.
Simon Belmont
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ShinobiFist said:
Animals is my favourite, but Dark Side is clearly the gateway drug here.
Synth_floyd
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The best one to START with is obv Dark Side of the Moon. Then Wish You Were Here. If you like the Shine On suite, then go backwards to Meddle, Live at Pompeii and their other early stuff. If you like all the other songs on Wish, then go forwards to Animals and The Wall.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Wtf, people liked Animals?
Simon Belmont
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
The three songs on Animals are pretty goddamned good.
Treefingers
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Why would anyone not like Animals?ThoseDeafMutes said:
Simon Belmont
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I think everybody can at least agree that 'The Final Cut' is garbage by the standard of a Pink Floyd album.
Synth_floyd
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Animals is dark, depressing and long. I don't like the Waters-dominated Floyd stuff, especially the Wall.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Simon Belmont said:
It was still better than Animals.
Simon Belmont
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
Well Sir, unlike science and UFO threads where I always enjoy the hell out of your posting, I will have to respectfully disagree with your opinion on this matter. That was a terrible utterance, though. Ha ha, charade you are.
InfiniteNine
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This man knows what he is talking about.Jaffaboy said:
Meddle. Or at least just get Echoes.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Simon Belmont said:
I'm not saying final cut was good.
I'm just saying animals was worse.
I actually enjoy Post War Dream / Gunners Dream when the mood strikes me, but can enjoy nothing from Animals. *shrug* The only other guy I know who listens to Floyd regularly also dislikes Animals, so I had no idea it was widely liked.
Simon Belmont
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ThoseDeafMutes said:I'm not saying final cut was good.
I'm just saying animals was worse.
I actually enjoy Post War Dream / Gunners Dream when the mood strikes me, but can enjoy nothing from Animals. *shrug* The only other guy I know who listens to Floyd regularly also dislikes Animals, so I had no idea it was widely liked.
Fletcher Memorial was always my favourite off that album, but I've always been way more a fan of Gilmore than Waters. I really think some of the best guitar work Gilmore ever did is on Animals. I also really like the rawness and energy of it. Then again, I put Electioneering on my top three for OK Computer, so I have a history of mistaking exciting parts for good songwriting.
NGAMER9 said:
I'll rephrase my point as 'everything after the wall should have been a solo-project.'
Synth_floyd
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Simon Belmont said:
You mean everything after Wish You Were Here. How are The Wall and Animals not de facto Waters solo albums?
Simon Belmont
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Synth_floyd said:
Lyrically things shifted over to Waters after Wish You Were Here, but Gilmore was all over the arrangements and melodies of Animals and The Wall. I really feel like they were both more or less playing to their strengths for those two albums, but Final Cut was predominantly Waters, and everything after was obviously predominantly Gilmore.
Of course that's just my shitty opinion.
Best place to start would be DSotM and WYWH, then move on to Animals and Meddle.
After that The Wall is a fantastic album, but it is a very story drive concept album, so it can seem a bit pompous and it's hard to dive in to it. It works best being listened to from start to finish to really get the most out of it.
Obscured by Clouds is a gem as well, containing some of my favourite PF tracks (Wot's... Uh the Deal?, Childhood's End, Free Four, Obscured by Clouds/When You're In")
Moving further back to the start of the band there are things like Pipers, ASoS and AHM, but they're rather different in style from the stuff after 73, a lot more experimental and Pipers is 60's psychedelic rock.
Lastly there's Division Bell and Momentary Lapse. Momentary Lapse hasn't aged well, but I still love tracks like Sorrow and Learning to Fly. Division Bell has aged a lot better imo, with almost every track being memorable and a lot more Pink Floyd sounding. I absolutely adore Marooned and Cluster One.
I love PF so much that I got in to bootleg collecting back in 2003 or so, I've got something like 1000 shows. Out of them my favourite stuff is a tie between their 1970 tour and their 1977 tour, with the latter featuring WYWH and Animals in full, with Money and Us and Them thrown in for good measure.
After that The Wall is a fantastic album, but it is a very story drive concept album, so it can seem a bit pompous and it's hard to dive in to it. It works best being listened to from start to finish to really get the most out of it.
Obscured by Clouds is a gem as well, containing some of my favourite PF tracks (Wot's... Uh the Deal?, Childhood's End, Free Four, Obscured by Clouds/When You're In")
Moving further back to the start of the band there are things like Pipers, ASoS and AHM, but they're rather different in style from the stuff after 73, a lot more experimental and Pipers is 60's psychedelic rock.
Lastly there's Division Bell and Momentary Lapse. Momentary Lapse hasn't aged well, but I still love tracks like Sorrow and Learning to Fly. Division Bell has aged a lot better imo, with almost every track being memorable and a lot more Pink Floyd sounding. I absolutely adore Marooned and Cluster One.
I love PF so much that I got in to bootleg collecting back in 2003 or so, I've got something like 1000 shows. Out of them my favourite stuff is a tie between their 1970 tour and their 1977 tour, with the latter featuring WYWH and Animals in full, with Money and Us and Them thrown in for good measure.
ThoseDeafMutes said:I'm not saying final cut was good.
I'm just saying animals was worse.
I actually enjoy Post War Dream / Gunners Dream when the mood strikes me, but can enjoy nothing from Animals. *shrug* The only other guy I know who listens to Floyd regularly also dislikes Animals, so I had no idea it was widely liked.
CharminUltra
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Start with these (in order):
1) Dark Side of the Moon
2) Wish You Were Here
3) Tie: Animals or Meddle
1) Dark Side of the Moon
2) Wish You Were Here
3) Tie: Animals or Meddle
Gonna end up agreeing with most of the other posts here, start with Dark Side of the Moon or Wish you Were Here. If you don't listen to rock on the radio, I would say DSotM, but if you do listen to rock on the radio go straight for WYWH, since you have probably heard all of DSotM already (and apparently didn't like it enough to find out who it was)
After that you can go anywhere, maybe try Division Bell or Animals
Maybe check out The Wall or, as was posted above, PULSE (really is pretty much a greatest hits album, even though all Pink Floyd albums should be listened to all the way through) You might also check out the movie for The Wall.
After that you can go anywhere, maybe try Division Bell or Animals
the best album ever, don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise
speculawyer
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This sums it up well.Satyamdas said:
What you should do is wait until September and then by the Pink Floyd Immersion box sets.
http://www.whypinkfloyd.com/immersion.php
http://pinkfloydz.com/immersions.htm
Wish You Were Here and The Wall are getting similar sets and we can only hope for more next year. This shit is off the charts!
Also this is probably a good spot to post some pics of Roger Waters Wall Tour, and when Gilmour showed up at one of the London O2 shows
http://www.whypinkfloyd.com/immersion.php
http://pinkfloydz.com/immersions.htm
Wish You Were Here and The Wall are getting similar sets and we can only hope for more next year. This shit is off the charts!
Also this is probably a good spot to post some pics of Roger Waters Wall Tour, and when Gilmour showed up at one of the London O2 shows
Kitschkraft
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I feel like I have some different views from others but here it is. I won't get into every single album, just some points I think are worth throwing out their after reading this topic.
First of all, imo, Saucerful = Piper. I admit that I'm one of the only people I know that feels this way. It's strange, they added a new member, one was apparently too far gone to really contribute at that point, and I've never heard any of the members really say much about the album...but I find it to be a perfect successor to the first album. If you're going to listen to Piper, you might as well just keep going and listen to Saucerful too. It's a darker album (Even by their standards), and for obvious reasons, it foreshadows where the band was headed moreso than Piper.
There is a compilation called "The Early Singles" that has like 9 songs not on either album. That is also worth checking out.
Dark Side of the Moon, as has been stated, is clearly their most accessible, and I'm guessing that you have at least heard "Money" and maybe "Time" somewhere before already. Don't get it twisted though, it's not some beginners guide type thing, it's a genuinely fantastic album.
Regarding WYWH...while I adore this album and understand why it's many a fan favorite, I think it's probably much more interesting if you hold off until you are more acquainted with the band, it's history, etc. I dunno, for me, it was one of the latter albums by them I had heard, but I feel I got more out of it because of that. Obviously, the songs stand up without all the "lore" or whatever.
Dissenting opinion : The Wall is possibly their second most popular album. Musically however, I find it to be one of their weakest (Even though some of their most renowned material is on it) As someone that isn't that experienced with them, you may or may not get into the whole concept and theatrical aspect of the album, but once you bore yourself out with that, you will end up skipping quite a bit of songs on that album.
After Final Cut (Which is boring to me), the main song writer (At the time at least) left the band, the remaining guys were relatively "old" (For pop standards) at that point, and their next two albums are pretty much just adult contemporary. Not that I hold it against them, they were legends at this point, had nothing to prove, and had to change.
First of all, imo, Saucerful = Piper. I admit that I'm one of the only people I know that feels this way. It's strange, they added a new member, one was apparently too far gone to really contribute at that point, and I've never heard any of the members really say much about the album...but I find it to be a perfect successor to the first album. If you're going to listen to Piper, you might as well just keep going and listen to Saucerful too. It's a darker album (Even by their standards), and for obvious reasons, it foreshadows where the band was headed moreso than Piper.
There is a compilation called "The Early Singles" that has like 9 songs not on either album. That is also worth checking out.
Dark Side of the Moon, as has been stated, is clearly their most accessible, and I'm guessing that you have at least heard "Money" and maybe "Time" somewhere before already. Don't get it twisted though, it's not some beginners guide type thing, it's a genuinely fantastic album.
Regarding WYWH...while I adore this album and understand why it's many a fan favorite, I think it's probably much more interesting if you hold off until you are more acquainted with the band, it's history, etc. I dunno, for me, it was one of the latter albums by them I had heard, but I feel I got more out of it because of that. Obviously, the songs stand up without all the "lore" or whatever.
Dissenting opinion : The Wall is possibly their second most popular album. Musically however, I find it to be one of their weakest (Even though some of their most renowned material is on it) As someone that isn't that experienced with them, you may or may not get into the whole concept and theatrical aspect of the album, but once you bore yourself out with that, you will end up skipping quite a bit of songs on that album.
After Final Cut (Which is boring to me), the main song writer (At the time at least) left the band, the remaining guys were relatively "old" (For pop standards) at that point, and their next two albums are pretty much just adult contemporary. Not that I hold it against them, they were legends at this point, had nothing to prove, and had to change.
Well that's good, when I used to listen to the radio 10 years ago Money, Brain Damage and Eclipse, Us and Them, and Time used to come on all the time, those songs altogether are about half of the album. Might have only been the classic rock station that played more than Money though.lexi said:
Kitschkraft
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I'm a little surprised that so many would recommend WYWH first. Not to disregard any opinions, I just always looked at that album as more of a "culmination". The album as a whole is about a past band member, 2 of the songs (WTTM and HAC) are a seasoned band venting about their time in the music industry, the first song he will hear will be 14 minutes long...
As I said, the music is amazing. Still, it was fun to hear "which ones Pink?" and feel "in" on the reference. Of course, I'm not sure what the OP's general taste is, or if he's even interested in their entire story like that.
As I said, the music is amazing. Still, it was fun to hear "which ones Pink?" and feel "in" on the reference. Of course, I'm not sure what the OP's general taste is, or if he's even interested in their entire story like that.
I'm in two minds about this. As much as I love WYWH and Animals, as a Pink Floyd novice, sitting through 12-17 minute long songs might be a bit much. DSotM is much easier to digest and therefore serves as a better introduction I reckon (I echo the sentiment that The Wall is somewhat bloated, but great nonetheless).
Start with Animals.
Then Dark Side of the Moon.
Wish You Were Here.
Then listen to everything else. Preferably The Wall, then everything else.
But really, all the Pink Floyd stuff are great. You'll enjoy it all.
Any other music recommendations for a Pink Floyd fan? I just can't enjoy anything else as much as PF... maybe King Crimson.. but that's about it.
Then Dark Side of the Moon.
Wish You Were Here.
Then listen to everything else. Preferably The Wall, then everything else.
But really, all the Pink Floyd stuff are great. You'll enjoy it all.
Any other music recommendations for a Pink Floyd fan? I just can't enjoy anything else as much as PF... maybe King Crimson.. but that's about it.
Bel Marduk
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Meddle definitely.. A lot of people have recommended Echoes but One of These Days is a great great track too. A Pillow of Winds and Fearless are also classic tracks..
San Tropez and Seamus less so but its still a classic album and in my opinion, their best.
San Tropez and Seamus less so but its still a classic album and in my opinion, their best.
DiscoJer
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My picks would be:
A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Animals
A Saucerful of Secrets
Wish You Were Here and The Wall both suffer from being basically a bunch of extremely rich rock stars whining about how hard the music business is...especially Roger Waters who is apparently just about the biggest spoiled jerk in the whole music industry.
Because they actually had a very easy ride. Their record company really pushed Dark Side when it came out. Yes, it was absolutely brilliant, but also had turns of marketing (and they all got very, very wealthy, it's not like they got cheated out of royalties, like say, Mike Oldfield and Tubular Bells).
Not to mention, they kicked the guy that started the band and who was the real genius of the bunch (Syd Barrett) to the curb.
A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Animals
A Saucerful of Secrets
Wish You Were Here and The Wall both suffer from being basically a bunch of extremely rich rock stars whining about how hard the music business is...especially Roger Waters who is apparently just about the biggest spoiled jerk in the whole music industry.
Because they actually had a very easy ride. Their record company really pushed Dark Side when it came out. Yes, it was absolutely brilliant, but also had turns of marketing (and they all got very, very wealthy, it's not like they got cheated out of royalties, like say, Mike Oldfield and Tubular Bells).
Not to mention, they kicked the guy that started the band and who was the real genius of the bunch (Syd Barrett) to the curb.
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Satyamdas said:
Woah. You're... like... my Pink Floyd twin brother. This would be my list exactly.
teruterubozu
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Animals and Meddle.
Listen to the radio for the rest.
Listen to the radio for the rest.
Naked Snake
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I'd say start with Dark Side of the Moon.
Government-man
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Dark Side of the Moon, followed by Wish You Were Here, Meddle and go from there.
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