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Where is my Batman Begins trailer YOU PUNKS?

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Willco

Hollywood Square
To make you feel more comfortable about not lying, I give you the international poster...

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Simo

Member
Here's one description from SHH's boards:
"I work in a cinema in England and today I saw the new Batman Begins trailer 3 times it was attached to Blade: Trinity.

It starts off with Bruce in the Iceland and then you hear Ducard say 'The death of your parents is not your fault!' Then we see Bruce in some serious training. Then we hear Ducard say 'With training you can become something...different.' At this time we see Bruce opening two doors to reveal the cowl! Then it gets really good....

We see Bruce making what looks like a batarang in the shape of the new logo. Then we see Bruce spraying the bat-suit black. Then there a lot of new, fast footage of Batman in action including the scene with the wings spread. The final scene is the scene we've heard of before with a criminal screaming 'Where are you?!" As the criminal steps back we see Batman upside down and whispers 'Here!'

Let me just tell you it's awesome! Don't worry guys, these scenes do it justice BIG TIME!!"

I expected to be online by today at the latest since it was supposed to be attached with Blade: Trinity but it Seems only a few select prints came with the trailer. The rest are attached with Ocean's Twelve. I guess it could be up on the official site by Saturday.
 

J2 Cool

Member
i think I posted it, my source being superherohype.com who said it'd be online by Thursday. bastards. Supposedly its out there though somewhere
 

Lara

Member
Why are you all so hyped up about it? The teaser was weak. And the shiny Hollywood cast makes me even more worried.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Lara said:
Why are you all so hyped up about it? The teaser was weak. And the shiny Hollywood cast makes me even more worried.

Because the script is the best Batman movie ever written. Anyone who thinks the Burton Batman is better is an idiot who never read a Batman comic in their life.
 

Matlock

Banned
Mana: If it's any consolation, I think Batman Returns was the best Batman film, if only for the fact it was what defined Batman for me.

And trust me, I've read way more Batman comics than you'll ever see. ;)
 

karasu

Member
Lara said:
Why are you all so hyped up about it? The teaser was weak. And the shiny Hollywood cast makes me even more worried.

This is not a shiny Hollywood cast. These guys make small, foreign, or indie films more than anything else.
 

Lara

Member
ManaByte said:
Because the script is the best Batman movie ever written. Anyone who thinks the Burton Batman is better is an idiot who never read a Batman comic in their life.

Que? You've read the script?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Matlock said:
Mana: If it's any consolation, I think Batman Returns was the best Batman film, if only for the fact it was what defined Batman for me.

And trust me, I've read way more Batman comics than you'll ever see. ;)

Well of the 90's movies, Returns is the best by far. Begins is so much better though.

I'm talking about the people who still think the FIRST Burton Batman is the best superhero movie ever. They are on hardcore crack.
 

Lara

Member
karasu said:
This is not a shiny Hollywood cast. These guys make small, foreign, or indie films more than anything else.

To me it is. The film is already weighed down by all the big names.

That was the one thing (perhaps the only thing) that The Lord of the Rings did well. Jackson was brave enough to go for less recognisable actors. (Or maybe bravery had nothing to do with it. After all, it was The Lord of the Rings. Johnny Vegas as Aragorn? Sure, why not?)
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Lara said:
Que? You've read the script?

I've read the script and I still have it in the sacred vault. I'm sure ManaByte does as well.

... Christian Bale, Cillian Murphy, Tom Wilkinson, Rutger Hauer, Ken Watanabe and Liam Neeson get the most screentime.

Of all of those actors, Neeson is the biggest and none of them are big Hollywood stars that'd you use to sell a movie.
 

karasu

Member
Christian Bale is not a huge name. I think he's made two mainstream movies in the last 4 years. Plus Gary Oldman, nobody recognizes Gary Oldman. Even if this is a big cast, it's because of their talent. They aren't simple superstars or flavors of the month.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Lara said:
To me it is. The film is already weighed down by all the big names.

That was the one thing (perhaps the only thing) that The Lord of the Rings did well. Jackson was brave enough to go for less recognisable actors. (


Yeah, I mean:

Sean Bean
Cate Blanchett
Ian Holm
Ian McKellen
Christopher Lee
John Rhys-Davies
Liv Tyler
Hugo Weaving
Elijah Wood

Who the hell are these people anyway??
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
karasu said:
Christian Bale is not a huge name. I think he's made two mainstream movies in the last 4 years. Plus Gary Oldman, nobody recognizes Gary Oldman. Even if this is a big cast, it's because of their talent. They aren't simple superstars or flavors of the month.

With the sole exception of Katie Holmes, but she's there for eye candy!
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
AniHawk said:
Morgan Freeman?

Both Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman have minor roles going by the script.

And again, Christian Bale, Cillian Murphy, Tom Wilkinson, Rutger Hauer, Ken Watanabe and Liam Neeson get the most screentime. It depends on the final shooting script, because I've heard rumors of stuff being added and subtracted. I wouldn't be surprised to see Gary Oldman in a few more scenes than Tom Wilkinson.

Katie Holmes' character gets far too much screentime than she deserves.
 

kgHavok23

Member
karasu said:
Christian Bale is not a huge name. I think he's made two mainstream movies in the last 4 years. Plus Gary Oldman, nobody recognizes Gary Oldman. Even if this is a big cast, it's because of their talent. They aren't simple superstars or flavors of the month.


Bale looks like he will make a convincing Batman. besides, anyone > Clooney.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
hXc_thugg said:
Cillian Murphy as The Scarecrow is probably the best thing ever, friends!

Yeah, he was a great casting choice. I'm glad they got Oldman for Gordon, though.
 

hXc_thugg

Member
Willco said:
Yeah, he was a great casting choice. I'm glad they got Oldman for Gordon, though.

Yeah, Oldman seems like a good Gordon.

Wasn't their like shots or screencaps from a trailer at the Comic-Con or something floating around of The Scarecrow? I remember hearing about something like that, and don't want to be missing it!
 

Lara

Member
Well, it seems we have differing opinions on what constitutes a 'big name' in film.

levious said:
Yeah, I mean:

Sean Bean
Cate Blanchett
Ian Holm
Ian McKellen
Christopher Lee
John Rhys-Davies
Liv Tyler
Hugo Weaving
Elijah Wood

Who the hell are these people anyway??

Erm....

In my estimation, only a minority of members on your list would have been immediately recognisable to a mainstream audience prior to The Lord of the Rings films.

Viggo Mortensen, Orlando Bloom, Sean Astin, Elijah Wood, Bernard Hill, John Rhys-Davies, Billy Boyd, Dominic Monaghan and Miranda Otto (i.e., the majority of the protagonists) would not.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Lara said:
Viggo Mortensen, Orlando Bloom, Sean Astin, Elijah Wood, Bernard Hill, John Rhys-Davies, Billy Boyd, Dominic Monaghan and Miranda Otto (i.e., the majority of the protagonists) would not.

Sean Astin (Goonies, Rudy), Elijah Wood (tons of movies), Bernard Hill (he played the captain of a little ship in a movie not too many people saw. It was titled TITANIC), John Rhys-Davies (uh, Indy? Hello?).
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
the people I listed are very recognizable, especially compared to the cast of Batman Begins... and I meant to include Sean Astin. I left off most of the people you listed for a reason. If you don't think they're big names, fine. But they were/are.
 
i bet more casual movie watchers know Rudy and The Goonies than anything Gary Oldman has done. IF anything, people like John Ryes Davies (Indiana Jones), Ian McKellen (Xmen) Elijah Wood and LIv Tyler and Hugo Weaving were right around the same level of "stardom" as Katie Holmes, Liam Neeson and Gary Oldman. Morgan Freeman is probably the most recognizable and he's got a supporting role. Christian Bale is the star of this show.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
well, the script to the original Batman was reportedly AWESOME as well.

But yes, this begins script rocked.
 

Lara

Member
ManaByte said:
Sean Astin (Goonies, Rudy), Elijah Wood (tons of movies), Bernard Hill (he played the captain of a little ship in a movie not too many people saw. It was titled TITANIC), John Rhys-Davies (uh, Indy? Hello?).

Wow, a Batman Begins fanboi. Congratulations. Argue with me about the celebrity of every single actor on our lists. We can conduct oral surveys and create Excel spreadsheets and everything.

To pretend that Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, John Rhys-Davies and Bernard Hill were 'big names' (in the sense that I have described above) before being cast in The Lord of the Rings is risible. Take John Rhys-Davies. If John Rhys-Davies is a big name because of 'Indy', then so is Denholm Elliott (the guy who played Marcus Brody). Right? Right.

The next time I see Denholm Elliott in a film, I know the producers have paid the big bucks. I mean, fuck, it's Denholm Elliott - movie mandarin.


Ok. Your insistence on arguing this dumb point with me is somewhat disturbing. Maybe a better question that you might ask is why I'm disappointed by the presence of alleged 'big names' in Batman Begins in the first place. Or maybe not.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
"The next time I see Denholm Elliott in a film, I know the producers have paid the big bucks. I mean, fuck, it's Denholm Elliott - movie mandarin."

Well, big shovels will be needed....

RIP Denholm....RIP :(
 

hXc_thugg

Member
Lara said:
Wow, a Batman Begins fanboi. Congratulations. Argue with me about the celebrity of every single actor on our lists. We can conduct oral surveys and create Excel spreadsheets and everything.

To pretend that Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, John Rhys-Davies and Bernard Hill were 'big names' (in the sense that I have described above) before being cast in The Lord of the Rings is risible. Take John Rhys-Davies. If John Rhys-Davies is a big name because of 'Indy', then so is Denholm Elliott (the guy who played Marcus Brody). Right? Right.

The next time I see Denholm Elliott in a film, I know the producers have paid the big bucks. I mean, fuck, it's Denholm Elliott - movie mandarin.


Ok. Your insistence on arguing this dumb point with me is somewhat disturbing. Maybe a better question that you might ask is why I'm disappointed by the presence of alleged 'big names' in Batman Begins in the first place. Or maybe not.

I like you, you're fun. :)
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
You don't think Elijah Wood, Christopher Lee, Ian Holm, Cate Blanchett, Ian McKellan are big time actors, then you're not much of a movie fan. Our point wasn't that this list is BIG TIME HOLLYWOOD... only that LOTR has a overall bigger or at the least comparable cast, name-wise, than Begins.
 

Simo

Member
Willco said:
Only if they get the proper actor for the role!
WB are already scouting. Apparently, Lachey Hulme is the No 1 contender for the "role" with Bruce Spence being another possible candidate but the ball is in Hulme's court at the moment

Meanwhile given there's no trailer online yet (and apparently won't be until Saturday or Monday), here's the first draft of the script for Begins by David Goyer for those interested:
CLICK ME
 
Go here to take a trip into a bizarre parallel universe where one man has convinced everyone else that this movie sucks. Look for posts by "King Krypton."
 

Gorey

Member
My hopes are high for this. Bale = +1, focus on 'origins' = +10, Return of the Cool and Creepy Batman = +1,000.
 
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