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WHERE U MORMONS AT?!?!?

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maharg

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Everything I know about mormonism I learned from Orgasmo.

Oh, and my brother in law's best friend, who is a very bad mormon (drinks, smokes, caffeine, sex, the whole lot) but still a True Believer.
 
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maharg said:
Everything I know about mormonism I learned from Orgasmo.

Oh, and my brother in law's best friend, who is a very bad mormon (drinks, smokes, caffeine, sex, the whole lot) but still a True Believer.

haha, I'm going to USU right now and I've met a few of those...don't follow the doctrine at all, yet profess to believe. By far the minority, though. For the most part, I think Mormons (including myself) are pretty cool, but being born and raised in California I can see why people think we're so weird. There's the good people and bad people in any religion, and I don't care if someone doesn't want to believe, just be respectful.
 

Hitokage

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bridegur said:
Oh, and the Book of Mormon isn't considered to be part of the Bible, it's a companion to it. I think people usually take offense to it because we believe it to be scripture, just as we do the Bible.
Not entirely accurate. The Book of Mormon is considered to supersede the Bible, which mormons believe to be incomplete. However, two other books called the Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price greatly yet tacitly supersede the Book of Mormon in actually setting doctrine. Of course, it's all fairly moot because mormon doctrine and history is whatever the current church president says it is, and he is infallable. Ah, the joys of whitewashing. ;)
 

Truelize

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Hitokage said:
Not entirely accurate. The Book of Mormon is considered to supercede the Bible, which mormons believe to be incomplete. However, two other books called the Doctrine and Covenants and The Pearl of Great Price greatly yet tacitly supercede the Book of Mormon in actually setting doctrine. Of course, it's all fairly moot because mormon doctrine and history is whatever the current church president says it is, and he is infallable. Ah, the joys of whitewashing. ;)

I wouldn't say it supercedes the bible. It accompanies it. We do not believe that the bible is imcomplete in a negative way. But believe that our Heavenly Father had more to teach us than just the bible. It is another testament of the life of Jesus Christ.
 

Hitokage

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Truelize said:
I wouldn't say it supercedes the bible. It accompanies it. We do not believe that the bible is imcomplete in a negative way. But believe that our Heavenly Father had more to teach us than just the bible. It is another testament of the life of Jesus Christ.
"Most correct of any book on earth", "keystone of our religion", and "the fullness of the Gospel" aren't terms used for an accompaniment, but maybe downplaying the Book of Mormon is in vogue now like downplaying Joseph Smith was before. I wouldn't really know.
 

Truelize

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Hitokage said:
"Most correct of any book on earth", "keystone of our religion", and "the fullness of the Gospel" aren't terms used for an accompaniment, but maybe downplaying the Book of Mormon is in vogue now like downplaying Joseph Smith was before. I wouldn't really know.

No I meant it more in the sense that it isn't meant to be a knock against the bible. All those quotes are correct, as I'm sure you've heard them just as many times as I have.
I don't really want to talk about my beliefs though here. Surely you can understand.

The only point I would like to make is. Don't hate us because we believe in something. I know I don't think anything negative towards anyone that doesn't share my beliefs. This is my choice. As it is anyone else's that has a testimony of the church they are members of.
 

Truelize

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Nah I've seen it. No big deal.

It's not like a cartoon is gonna be a very good representation of the truth though.
 

Truelize

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Hitokage said:
Sorry, by "supersede" I meant "trumps in importance", not "replace".

Oh, and you're right in that South Park did get some things wrong.

I wasn't really thinking replace either. Trumps in importance seems a little strong, but I guess you could take it that way. We obviously spend much more time with The Book of Mormon than we do with The Bible. And we are taught that it has been written more for us in these latter days.

That site says a lot of interesting things. Very well done. Did you spend a lot of time reading/investigating the truth through opposing views while you were still active? I mean was it stuff like this that influenced you to step away or was it something you just decided to do yourself one day?
 
Tamanon said:
All I know is that Mormon girls are SORRY in bed.

Not true. Like I said, I changed my damn religion for one - because the punani was all that! (And, she was my first "luv"). My parents - Catholics, I used to be an altar boy - nearly passed out when I got my baptismal dunk.
 
I live in salt lake, It doesn't seem to bad around the university

you know what they say: mormon girls = imbred to perfection (!)
 

Axsider

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Forgotten Ancient said:
Axsider gets my vote for best avatar on GAF.
;-) Thanks, buddy :D

etiolate said:
That's an interesting avatar. Why is she so sweaty?
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Alcibiades

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we had Mormons visit our family a few times when I was in middle-school...

I think I learned more about the Mormon religion from that South Park episode than anything else though...

like the whole prophets (white-skinned) in the American continent during the early AD's...

that's pretty "out there" in terms of people accepting it IMO...

I had no idea they believed that...

I also love that song "dum dum dum dum dum"
 
I find some off the "Chistian" attacks on the Book of Mormon quite interesting. So quick are some to read the "Anti-Morman books", praising them with cheers of brilliant logic. But, there are ten times the books slamming the validity of the Bible using the same logic. Those books are all heresy!
 
A few items that disprove the Bible by"logic" are about the subjects of evolution, 1/2 life dating of the age of the earth, and dinosaurs to name a few. However, we are dealing with faith, and supernatural things that go beyond science. One can try disprove faith based religions with all of the facts and logic in the world. The test is in spirituallity. The true sixth sense. Where the true communication with the unseen occurs. A single persons quiet, and hubmle prayer, desiring the truth. If you really want to know the truth about what to belive, thats what you should do. Ask "God", not man.
 

Hitokage

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Haha, spoken like a true apologist.

BTW, the dirty secret the church doesn't want you to know is that the straw man of antimormon christians with an agenda isn't the only source of material critical of mormonism.
 
I think what kept me from the mormon faith was that their faith always seemed to require group efforts. Im lutheran, but I dont go to organized mass simply because I believe faith is a personal thing with god. God knows me better than some church asking for money. I dont like being required to know everyone else, or participate in pretense ladden social events showing off some hollow fucking smile. Religious people are assholes too, quit trying to kid yerselves.

Mormon church is built AROUND an organization. Not to accuse, but plenty of people seem to join for its flawless support system. A system that helped keep my family going when we were fucking broke. Its appreciated, but I wonder sometimes.

Plus the basketball thing is right. Jesus, let it go.
 

Truelize

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Church ball is hilarious. :lol
The most full-contact basketball you will ever play is in church league.

But you are right MAF. We try to do a lot of things in groups. One of the reasons is that so many people of this world do their best to discourage our effects to live our lives following our gospel beliefes. By surrounding yourself with people that have similar beliefs you get a chance to be yourself or express/act out your beliefs more comfortably. But just because you go to the same church as someone else doesn't mean you will wind up being best friends with them. The people that wind up having all their closest friends as fellow Mormons are pretty lucky. My tolerance for people hasn't gotten to that point yet I guess. :D

You are also right about people joining for the sense of belonging. Something that is common in all churchs so you don't have to worry about accusing on that point. There are a lot of people that join because they like the missionaries or like someone that is a member. And if that relationship ever breaks down they stop coming.

One of the first rules of going to any church is: If you are going for the people that are there, you wont be going for long. Going go to church and having a faith in something is maybe the most personal thing that someone can do. Gotta do what is right for you.
 
In my experience you cant experience LDS without groups, and they will to some extent haunt you until you give in. This might not be every church but jesus, some people dont do groups.

As for the support system I was speaking of finances more than emotional support.

To expose my tilt, I distrust organizations meant to represent a flawless concept (god) run by flawed individuals. (us) which is why ive resorted to dealing with faith on my own terms.
 

Truelize

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MrAngryFace said:
To expose my tilt, I distrust organizations meant to represent a flawless concept (god) run by flawed individuals. (us) which is why ive resorted to dealing with faith on my own terms.

I can respect that. That's a tough thing to deal with.

But up here in Calgary there are no "haunting" groups. :lol
 

Cimarron

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UltimateMarioMan said:
As a Christian I find the Mormon religion offensive. Some loser writes some crap and has the gall to call it part of the Bible.

Slow your roll buddy. Christians technically did the same thing to the Torah with the New Testament. Religous hate make baby Jesus/Bhudda/Muhamed cry! :(
 
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