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I live in Hadley's Hope, and while there I watch Alien.
The Assembly Cut further proves this, but yes...he was the original. There were doubts and debates about this for years (probably still are). I think it had a lot to do with fans not liking the idea that Bishop's creator was a company guy. Yet another reason why Alien3 stood out unlike a typical movie in a franchise. The scenes where he further expresses pain were cut in the theatrical to make the audience question rather than know.He was obviously bleeding and in pain when he got hit so he was a human. Also, he was visibly distressed when he was talking to Ripley at the end, not at all like the ever calm and logical android. Was there any doubt?
Just tell me one thing Burke, you're going out there to destroy them, right? Not to study, not to bring back, but to wipe them out!
Even for what he did, Ripley would still show him some sympathy and wouldn't let him go through the agony of having an alien burst through his chest.
But the scene was eventually deleted because James Cameron felt that according to the Alien lore, he should have been with a face-hugger still latching on his face when Ripley bumped across him - and not in a state of consciousness being able to talk.
The Predator sounds really, really dumb.
Androids in the Earth Hive novels are completely passable and fuckable.He was obviously bleeding and in pain when he got hit so he was a human. Also, he was visibly distressed when he was talking to Ripley at the end, not at all like the ever calm and logical android. Was there any doubt?
Alien3 was meant to be an end-all to the franchising when the final film was submitted. It was just a mess of production, really. Possibly hundreds of unread scripts, over budget, late post-production (which led to the original assembly cut getting scrapped until 2003), tension/termination of film crew, over spending, delayed, and the fact that portions of the Assembly Cut are still missing due to them having to re-write/re-film after nearly 1-year of production. The experience almost black-listed David Fincher and he only regained interest in directing while working on "Seven." He hates the film till this day. I love it -- mostly because I liked that the nihilistic environment and that they had officially decided to end Alien possibly with the intention of not destroying the legacy of the first two. Then...someone went and made a 4thAliens then Alien. After that I like them equally for different reasons but I have no illusions of the resurrection, Prometheus or Covenant being good films. 3 is a great film it just misses the Alien good mark for me.
I saw Alien 3 in the Theater with my Grandmother.Alien3 was meant to be an end-all to the franchising when the final film was submitted. It was just a mess of production, really. Possibly hundreds of unread scripts, over budget, late post-production (which led to the original assembly cut getting scrapped until 2003), tension/termination of film crew, over spending, delayed, and the fact that portions of the Assembly Cut are still missing due to them having to re-write/re-film after nearly 1-year of production. The experience almost black-listed David Fincher and he only regained interest in directing while working on "Seven." He hates the film till this day. I love it -- mostly because I liked that the nihilistic environment and that they had officially decided to end Alien possibly with the intention of not destroying the legacy of the first two. Then...someone went and made a 4thSo much for the legacy.
You have a cool grandmother. I guess humanly gripe with Alien3 was the dog Alien design. Lurking was about the only thing that made it slightly scary. The original Giger Alien was the best and the fact that it's only in the movie less than 15-minutes. What grabbed me with 3 was the story and the characters. To me, if they cut the Alien out completely from that one...it still would have worked.I saw Alien 3 in the Theater with my Grandmother.
I read that as "which Allen movie is your favorite"? So, Annie Hall, I guess?
That is why I think 3 is a good movie. It’s just I would have wished it was another universe or at-least not a direct sequel to Aliens.You have a cool grandmother. I guess humanly gripe with Alien3 was the dog Alien design. Lurking was about the only thing that made it slightly scary. The original Giger Alien was the best and the fact that it's only in the movie less than 15-minutes. What grabbed me with 3 was the story and the characters. To me, if they cut the Alien out completely from that one...it still would have worked.
somebody wake up Hicks.Look at my avatar.
I've actually never met a fan who was the original Alien trilogy growing up that is impressed with Resurrection, Prometheus, and/or Covenant. Even though Ridley Scott (Director of the original Alien) came back for Prometheus -- it really wasn't the prequel it could have been. Hiring a Director back alone can't fix and Alien movie. The majority of the original story's credit goes to: Ron Shusett, Dan O'Bannon, Walter Hill, and David Giler. Without using all those guys...it's hard to make a good film. For example -- Walter Hill and Dan O'Bannon really weren't modern film conformists like Giler/Shusett (Brandywine); therefore some of the cheap modern cinema tricks used wouldn't have passed as well with them and they would have likely asked Ridley to change them. For the sake of being fair to the GAF community; I included the last 3 films of Alien.Aliens.
The first one is probably the better film, but i love the second one much more.
Also whoever voted for the last 2 film deserve a castration therapy![]()
James Cameron delivered well on Aliens. He was hired while assistant producing Rambo 2. The English staff hated him because he was American and the Americans (Actors mostly) didn't trust him initially because they thought this was his first big film (almost no one was aware the first month of shooting Aliens that Jim Cameron wrote/directed Terminator). Eventually, it turned around and he developed friendship and confidence with most of the crew and tired the old carts at Pinewood studios that were constantly lambasting him. Made an action sequel better than what anyone imagined....even better when the special edition came out in 1991.Alien is great, but I somehow always prefered Aliens over it, I like the more action brrrbrrrr goes the machinegun style of the second movie.
The sound of that gun is so damn good.
Dan O'Bannon who wrote "Star Beast A.K.A. Alien first draft" would agree with you if he were here today. Dan had such a strong temper with the changes in the final script and filming of Alien that he was eventually removed from the set during filming. Fortunately for Dan O'Bannon...he died prior to knowing about or seeing Covenant. Seems like nearly all movies made in the last 17-years have been almost exclusively Producer -driven; whereas movies like Alien were the result of 4 great writers, 8 great actors (I'm including the tall African artist who was inside the original Alien costume), a Director who was dedicated enough to storyboard a whole alternate version during production down-time (Ridley Scott), Jerry Goldsmith's incredible film score, and production was mostly rounded out to 20th-Century but it was never the spotlight. They will not make the effort to create a movie that way today. That's one big reason Covenant and Prometheus are the way they are.Love Alien, but Aliens was better for me. It stands with T2 and Godfather 2 as one of the best sequels ever made.
Every single Alien film after Alien is hot trash. The last one (Covenant) had the most idiotic, incoherent plot that I straight up hate watched it.
Yeah, it's an underrated classic! I really loved those goofy aliens and their strange way of speaking and yelping. They also always smile even when talking about the mundane or even depressing things like the genocide of their people (it's amusing but also a tad unnerving). Also, looking back on the film I realized Rainn Wilson is one of the background aliens! It's weird because in my mind I associate Rainn with The character Dwight from the office and his prescence in the film pops out more than it is supposed to.This is a good movie. RIP Alan Rickman
Also from what I've seen in the Making-Of, Weaver was the one who wanted her cleavage to show up haha