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who created SD cards?

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Joe

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because they are taking over. more than half of all digital cameras take them. pda's, game consoles, cell phones, and now cars. the new audi wagon has 2 SD card slots for music.

who's technology is it?
 

Joe

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i cant imagine the amount of money sandisk is making right now and how much more they'll be making in near future as it gets even more popular.
 

tedtropy

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The Almighty Zog. Or what btrboyev said. Whichever.
 

Manics

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Last time I remember, SD cards were lagging behind Compactflash in terms of capacity and speed of data transfer. How much can the largest SD card hold nowadays? I know Compactflash is quite a bit larger form factor but it beats SD in capacity and speed i think.
 

btrboyev

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SD has up to 4 gig now. I was also under the impression that CF was the slowest. Not that anyone can tell anyways. (I certainly can't)
 

mrklaw

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SD is gaining steam and will probably be the defacto standard.

It helps that their competition are fucked up.

CF is way to big for consumer stuff (pro excluded
MMC is too big/old tech
XD is just stupid
Memory stick is too Sony

I guess SD do some good licensing deals too, which would help adoption rates.
 

EdLuva

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mrklaw said:
SD is gaining steam and will probably be the defacto standard.

It helps that their competition are fucked up.

CF is way to big for consumer stuff (pro excluded
MMC is too big/old tech
XD is just stupid
Memory stick is too Sony

I guess SD do some good licensing deals too, which would help adoption rates.

SmartMedia will be making a comeback!! ;)
 
mrklaw said:
SD is gaining steam and will probably be the defacto standard.

It helps that their competition are fucked up.

CF is way to big for consumer stuff (pro excluded
MMC is too big/old tech
XD is just stupid
Memory stick is too Sony

I guess SD do some good licensing deals too, which would help adoption rates.

MMC is just SD without the "secure" part, and looks exactly the same. Maybe you meant Smart Media?
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
Unfortunately my older Olympus digital camera uses smart media. Is 128MB the max capacity for it, as it's all I've seen...
 

Phoenix

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Joe said:
because they are taking over. more than half of all digital cameras take them. pda's, game consoles, cell phones, and now cars. the new audi wagon has 2 SD card slots for music.

who's technology is it?

Don't forget TV sets. There are TVs that can take them and and display the pictures on them...
 

Phoenix

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mrklaw said:
SD is gaining steam and will probably be the defacto standard.

It helps that their competition are fucked up.

CF is way to big for consumer stuff (pro excluded
MMC is too big/old tech
XD is just stupid
Memory stick is too Sony

I guess SD do some good licensing deals too, which would help adoption rates.

Until I can get a 4GB Microdrive in SD form, I'm all over CF :)
 

Phoenix

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XMonkey said:

Nah, not even close. I've got a Microdrive sitting in a Canon Powershot S1 IS and it is the best thing I've ever used. SD cards aren't anywhere near the performance of a Microdrive for sustained capture/streaming of content.

I've encoded literally hours of content and dumped a microdrive on a single battery charge in that camera.
 

Phoenix

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Crazymoogle said:
ATP just announced a 4GB SD card for the end of the year. Can't imagine it will be very cheap, but there you go...

Its not size, its performance. The microdrive read/write speed has been so much better than that of the SD cards that I don't consider them a suitable replacement.
 

tenchir

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Phoenix said:
Its not size, its performance. The microdrive read/write speed has been so much better than that of the SD cards that I don't consider them a suitable replacement.


Aren't there new Ultra SD cards that has faster performance compared to the older cards?

I checked and the speed was read/write speed of 9-12MB/sec which is pretty comparable to Microdrive's performance AFAIK. Also, since the microdrive uses a disk based system, you aren't going to get consistent performance when reading/writing from the inside of the disk toward outside.

The obvious disadvantages of using a microdrive are seektime and how long it will last. Since it uses moveable parts, it's likely to get damaged easiler and wear out. The best thing that microdrive has going for it is price per megabyte.
 

Phoenix

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tenchir said:
Aren't there new Ultra SD cards that has faster performance compared to the older cards?

I checked and the speed was read/write speed of 9-12MB/sec which is pretty comparable to Microdrive's performance AFAIK.

Microdrives do 10-33MB/sec. You'd need an Extreme SD card (20MB/sec) just to get close.

The obvious disadvantages of using a microdrive are seektime and how long it will last.
Since it uses moveable parts, it's likely to get damaged easiler and wear out. The best thing that microdrive has going for it is price per megabyte.

The reason they are used is speed as well as price. You'd have to throw one AT the ground to actually damage it. It they were that easy to damage or wear out, they wouldn't be used in portable electronics such as iPods :)
 

tenchir

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Phoenix said:
Microdrives do 10-33MB/sec. You'd need an Extreme SD card (20MB/sec) just to get close.

You sure it's not 10-33 Mbit/sec? which is 1.2-4.2 MB/sec. The fastest one I can find so far for Microdrive is 4.9-9.4 MB/sec. The 9-12MB/sec that I quoted above are the 66x-80x SD cards. The extreme SD card are 133x which is 20-23MB/sec for sustained transfer rate.


The reason they are used is speed as well as price. You'd have to throw one AT the ground to actually damage it. It they were that easy to damage or wear out, they wouldn't be used in portable electronics such as iPods :)

They will still eventually wear out. It has moving parts and uses magnetic platter. It should have a lifespan similar to HDD. Most flash media have lifetime warranty on them.

edit:
I checked and found this for a microdrive.

http://www.memorysuppliers.com/hi4gbmi4cofl.html

Media transfer rate 57.1 - 97.9 Mbit/sec (max)
Interface transfer rate 33 MB/sec (max)
Sustained data rate 4.3 - 7.2 MB/sec

Big difference between interface transfer rate and Sustained data rate huh?

edit 2: Fastest microdrive I found so far:

http://www.photoalley.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10201&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=13254256

Media transfer rate (Mbits/sec) 67 –125
Interface transfer rate (MB/sec, max) 33 Ultra DMA mode-2 (True-IDE mode)
Sustained data rate (MB/sec) 4.9 - 9.4


I think you got interface speed with sustained speed mixed up.
 
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