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Who does it seem that all Doom 3 hype is based on graphics?
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Teknopathetic
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Supposedly, the game is much slower and a lot more like a Survival Horror game than the original Dooms that were mindless.
Teknopathetic
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Oh the huge ass monsters are supposedly still there, and I'm sure it'll get a little more hectic the closer you get to the end.
TekunoRobby
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The best marketing standpoint for this game is the graphics so naturally that's what they are heavily pushing. Also id was extremely (and still is) tightlipped on the nature of the game and went to extraordinairy measures to make sure that no information was leaked to the public on the nature of their product.
Now this description is merely based on what I've read from the media but I'd describe this game as a "survival horror FPS with heavy action."
Now this description is merely based on what I've read from the media but I'd describe this game as a "survival horror FPS with heavy action."
ZombieSupaStar
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same can be said for most fps games nowadays
Gameplay is the same its the little extras that make them special
Gameplay is the same its the little extras that make them special
Yeah, check any of my posts, Doom III is just an overhyped techdemo to me. People are only waiting for it so much because, it's DOOM, and the graphics are really nice. If it's a decent game, I'm sure all that hype will make people believe the game rocks so hardcore, but in 2-3 years, people will just realise it's just average 
lol, I think I have a bias against it :-\
lol, I think I have a bias against it :-\
People forget that a part of what created tension in "survival horror" games was trying to navigate from savepoint to savepoint with very limited ammo. But as far as I can tell, the ammo isn't going to be limited and it is going to be another one of those plodding "Hit QuickSave every 30 seconds affairs"....so there goes a couple major tenets of the genre.
The scares will come from....you guessed it....."OMG NORMAL-MAPPED ZOMBIE THRU TEH WINDOW!"
The scares will come from....you guessed it....."OMG NORMAL-MAPPED ZOMBIE THRU TEH WINDOW!"
Actually, from the videos I've seen, it really is a lot more involved. They seem to use a lot of techniques with the engine to scare you in new and different ways that just weren't possible on other engines. Also, I believe a lot of the enemies are harder to take down than in old DOOMs.
But games like Serious Sam still prove that it can be done.... that game is just a fun time killer and co-op is the shit. There's a place for both types of game IMO. I should clarify that the reason I have less anticipation for Doom 3 than something like Half Life 2 is becuase I'm not a fan of horror settings.
It's base on graphic hype, because supposely, all ID games brings new graphics effects that would raise the bar for years to come. That's the reason why so many companies are willing to paid for their game engine. Also, you can safely say that ID is the reason why Opengl is still around.
BlackSalad
Member
Not to get more off track here but I say anyone who isn't going to play this game just because its "hyped on graphics" or "not like doom 2" is just hurting themselves. Doom 3 had a lot to live up and I don't think ID would even think about releasing a title that isn't going to be as groundbreaking and entertaining. THose persons are definatly going to be missing out on a great game.
And I think the main selling point for doom 3 isn't the graphics, but probably just because its a sequal to doom.
/rant
And I think the main selling point for doom 3 isn't the graphics, but probably just because its a sequal to doom.
/rant
CrimsonSkies
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From everything I've seen in the game in regards to trailers and gameplay footage. What's exactly not to like? Great audio, great graphics, and FPS gameplay. It's the full package.
SA-X said:
uh. All of ids games have fantastic gameplay.
Except for the old old old old stuff.
Hovertank 3D? first 3D pc game... but it SUCKED.
Commander Keen? Classic. (except for Keen Dreams)
Catacombs 3D? the very beginnings of the wolf3d engine but i thought it sucked
Wolf3D? Classic.
Doom 1/2? Classic.
Quake? Classic.
Quake 2? Classic.
Quake 3? Classic. (Best DM Evar? Yup!)
Doom 3? I can guarantee you it will become yet another accolade on id's decked out list already.
SA-X said:
In 1993 and 1994, Nothing and I mean absolutely nothing came close to Doom or Wolf3D. Everything else was mindless and repetitive in comparison.
SA-X said:
There is no single fps game that can match the pure fun, exhiliration or polish as Quake, let alone Quake 2 or the master of them all, Quake 3. Not a single one. There have been some that have come close, but always fall short of reaching the goal.
id's never really had awesome gameplay to me...not to say their games are bad, I played a lot of Q3A, but...something like the original HL or Deus Ex, now there was an *experience*. Then again those are both primarily 1P games. I hope Doom 3 has awesome gameplay but I really doubt it.
As far as I'm recall, every FPS was basically just a re-tread of Doom until Jedi Knight and Half-Life came along. Quake was just Doom without the gigantic enemy hordes....cold, empty levels with "Find the Key/Switch" types of objectives. Beyond the novelty of playing in full-on 3D, Quake and Quake 2 were more-or-less mediocre because they lost the adrenaline thrills of Doom but never had any kind of entertaining, cerebral challenges.
The concern is that id has not yet demonstrated an ability to deliver at the new high watermark created by titles like Half-Life and Halo.
The concern is that id has not yet demonstrated an ability to deliver at the new high watermark created by titles like Half-Life and Halo.
Quake's advancements were more-or-less technical shit that didn't make a difference. Physics didn't result in a game that played much different from Doom, and particles are just graphical stuff to begin with.
Half-Life is built on id's engine (I don't see what that's got to do with anything), but I think most everyone agrees that it was really able to do something in the genre that hadn't been done before.
Half-Life is built on id's engine (I don't see what that's got to do with anything), but I think most everyone agrees that it was really able to do something in the genre that hadn't been done before.
Yup. And with HL2 and Halo 2 coming out this fall, people aren't going to want to burn $50 on a game that plays like a big tech demo in comparison. Well, the non graphics whores anyway.border said:
I would love it if Doom 3 turns out to be awesome, but I think people have every right to be skeptical at this point.
Mike Works
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I liked Quake 2's single player. I still remember seeing sparks shooting out of the crashed space ship.
Granted it wasn't as good as the multiplayer experience, but discounting the game's one player mode on account of the excellent multiplayer mode is foolish. Granted, if you truly felt the single player campain was average or mundane, that would be acceptable criticism.
Granted it wasn't as good as the multiplayer experience, but discounting the game's one player mode on account of the excellent multiplayer mode is foolish. Granted, if you truly felt the single player campain was average or mundane, that would be acceptable criticism.
Late Stage Marxist
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id rocks. If anything, their multiplayer-centric Q3 is the most repetitive of all their games. I'm looking forward to more single-player goodness. I highly recommend going back and playing jdoom on Ultra-Violence difficulty. Doom had lots of tension.