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Whole New PS3 information!!!

We'll know more about MGS4 and some more in five days. My guess is that this is real, but Sony is going to drop a bomb with information and videos. They surprised the hell out of us at E3, so anything can happen. I will tell you Sony's strategy really works - MS is going to have to show me some good exclusive titles except GoW to make me go through with my purchase this Fall.

I like GR3, but being third party I'd expect it on PS3. I love GoW, but it's only one game. Sony has some excellent first parties on their side (Team ICO!!), and the console just screams style.

It all comes down to one thing - if Rare can deliver because I don't give a rat's ass about Halo. There simply won't be any difference in third party games, so the first party games will make a difference.

Rare is the only one that currently matters to me. PD0 better be amazing, or I'm waiting.
 
Interesting thread - for what it's worth, the writing sounds exactly like PSM...OXM-style fanboy drivel with the facts thrown in for fun. :D

Now...
GTA 4: Rebuilt from the Ground Up

The next GTA game is going to look really good. Actually, maybe that should be feel really good. It's a no-brainer that on the most powerful games console yet, one of our favorite series will have better graphics. But, base on developer Rockstar North's technical research, GTA4 will be more about immersion than just mere eye candy.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will bring GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Speciafially, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game's city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more deatailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to eb able to pour more textures, more oject variety, and tons of details (such as discareded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that's less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts mroe like they would in the real world on every level.

PRAISE JEBUS

MGS 4 Becomes a War Zone

One source has described the game to PSM as "a cross between Rambo and Black Hawk Down," with Solid Snake plunged into the middle of a high-intesntiy urban war zone where artillery is taking out cover all aroudn him and AI controlled "sidekicks" fight alongside him as if they were actual human-controlled characters. The new 3D camera will paly a big role in surviving the fight quarters and constantly changing cover.
Kojima has an update on teh game planned for TGS.

PRAISE JEBUS PART DEUX
 
I don't believe this fake article at all.
90% of this stuff will turn out to be true but it's all due to carefull studying of info already out there.
 
why are people so suprised about having a 3D camera in MGS4? We've known since e3 that they upgraded and added a fully 3D, behind the back camera to the series for Subsistence, why would they then go back to the primitive, limiting, terrible ass overhead camera for part 4?

and GTA4 sounds fucking awesome. Keep the single player experience though, none of that MMORPG shit.
 
Oh my fucking Gawd, I hope it's true about a New Ghouls N Ghosts for PS3

...... but my first thought was, PSM heard about the new GnG (for PSP) and assumed it was for PS3.
 
Wollan said:
I don't believe this fake article at all.
90% of this stuff will turn out to be true but it's all due to carefull studying of info already out there.

I agree.... sort of. I don't think the article is necessarily a fake, but none of the info (except the GTA thing) is really that "new", just compiled really nicely together.
 
Calidor said:
Holy shit, PS3 is a monster :lol

It is like a monster, in that everything that we known about it comes secondhand via rumors and legends that are probably all made up.

I mean, WTF? People are all up in arms about the "Xbox3DO," but someone posts some vague and unsubstantiated stuff about the PS3 and suddenly people are like "OMG teh next gen is HERE" and "$500 seems reasonable," even though we still haven't seen any real games on it, or have any solid information about the final hardware. I'm not saying it won't be impressive, because I have no way of knowing. But I'd like to see a bit more (or anything at all, even) firsthand before I get impressed.

People sure apply their skepticism selectively around here.
 
Ben Sones said:
It is like a monster, in that everything that we known about it comes secondhand via rumors and legends that are probably all made up.

I mean, WTF? People are all up in arms about the "Xbox3DO," but someone posts some vague and unsubstantiated stuff about the PS3 and suddenly people are like "OMG teh next gen is HERE" and "$500 seems reasonable," even though we still haven't seen any real games on it, or have any solid information about the final hardware. I'm not saying it won't be impressive, because I have no way of knowing. But I'd like to see a bit more (or anything at all, even) firsthand before I get impressed.

People sure apply their skepticism selectively around here.

Whats up junior?

FYI, the ps3, even if it launches at 2000 dollars w/ no games for 3 yrs will be the greatest next gen console, period.

Ok, so lets talk about MGS4 n GTA4 again. WOOOOHHEEEEEE. Can't wait till this thing launches. One console future babyyyy :D
 
Azrael said:
I don't think Sony will charge subscription fees. From what can be pieced together, the PS3 will have a uniform online interface like Live for things like login, friends list and messaging. However, unlike Live, Sony's not going to provide the infrastructure, and publishers will be responsible for running their own servers for online games. How they pay for it will be up to them. MMOs will have fees, and at least some 3rd parties like EA will surely charge fees to play their games online on PS3. Others won't charge online gaming fees, but will try to make their money back through microtransactions for content downloads, and from increased sales for having online play.

Nintendo I believe will offer a closed service like X-Box Live but make it free, figuring that there are enough fanboys out there who will pay $20 to download Famicom and Gameboy games to pay for it.


i agree with that :)
 
Izzy said:

Hm. LOL @ "PSP WTF?" on the cover. It's been a while since I got a subscription for PSM during the PSX days, but man it sure has come a long way. A long way to crap.

No matter, I guess it's true.

Which means... either PSM has got this info wrong, or they didn't. But I doubt very much that they'd get a story as big as GTA4 on PS3 with such and such engine wrong. DCharlie seems to disagree. You seem to disagree with DCharlie. Who do I believe?
 
ONE CONSOLE FUTURE FOR THE WIN!


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Nice... how will be PS3 Castlevania? do you think Igarashi is managing this?

Curse of Darkness looks fun, but Iga team doen´t seem the best one to get the most of the graphical resources of a machine.

It would be awesome a high def 2D Castlevania. But I am not going to fool myself.
 
Now that we know the info is true, let's take a look at the most interesting bits, again:

PSM's information came from developers. Some on the record, some off.

....particularly when it comes to ease of development for the system: how it compares to PS2, and more importantly, Xbox 360. "The *****ing this round sounds opposite of the last. Both are friendly, but the PS3 may actually be friendlier," reports one of out PS2 and Xbox 360 development sources, who wished to remain anonymous. "People are finding that the [xbox] 360 has some stupid bottlenecks."


The latest on PS3's power
"Once we have final hardware for both next-gen systems, we'll have a much better idea of how they caompare, but the general consensus right now is that the PS3 is considerably more powerful than the X360 across the board," said another source. "It's important to get a good idea of which is the most powerful soon, since multi-platform games will need to be either ported down from PS3 to 360 or vice-versa."

Madden NFL football developer Tiburon has had PS3 dev hardware longer than almost any other U.S. developer. Rockstar North has had stable kits since at least August 2005.

GTA 4: Rebuilt from the Ground Up

The next GTA game is going to look really good. Actually, maybe that should be feel really good. It's a no-brainer that on the most powerful games console yet, one of our favorite series will have better graphics. But, base on developer Rockstar North's technical research, GTA4 will be more about immersion than just mere eye candy.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will bring GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Speciafially, they're going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game's city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more deatailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to eb able to pour more textures, more oject variety, and tons of details (such as discareded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that's less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts mroe like they would in the real world on every level.

MGS 4 Becomes a War Zone

One source has described the game to PSM as "a cross between Rambo and Black Hawk Down," with Solid Snake plunged into the middle of a high-intesntiy urban war zone where artillery is taking out cover all aroudn him and AI controlled "sidekicks" fight alongside him as if they were actual human-controlled characters. The new 3D camera will paly a big role in surviving the fight quarters and constantly changing cover.
Kojima has an update on teh game planned for TGS.

The PS3 Game Lineup So Far

Activision
Spider-Man 3

Bandai
Mobile Suit Gundam

EA
NFSU 3
Madden NFL 2007
Medal of Honor
NBA Live 2007
Fight Night Round 3
Def Jam 3
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007
New SSX
New Burnout

Majesco
The Darkness

Buena Vista Interactive
Pirates of the caribbean: dead man's chest

Capcom
Return of a "beloved fighting franchise" ( Super Street Fighter?)
New Ghouls N' Ghosts
DMC 4
RE 5

Rockstar
GTA 4
Western-themed action game (likely Red Dead Revolver 2)

Sony
New Team ICO project ( !!! )
Genji 2
Warhawk
I-8
The Getaway 3
Killzone 3
GT 5
New Hot Shots Golf
MotorStorm
Eyedentify
Heavenly Sword
Formula One 2007
New Wipeout
Sony Online Entertainment
Marvel comics MMORPG
Untitled Fantasy MMORPG

Namco
Tekken 6
Ridge Racer 6

Eidos
Tomb raider Next-gen

Lucas Arts
Star Wars: Clone Wars
indiana Jones (launch with new movie)

Konami
MGS4
next gen Suikoden
Castlevania

Midway
UT 2007
Mortal Kombat
Stranglehold

Atair
Test Drive Unlimited

THQ
New WWE Project

Sega
Fifth Phantom Saga
Sonic The Hedgehog
Condemned: Criminal Origans

Tecmo
Fatal Frame 4

Ubisoft
Prince of Persia 4
Killing Day

Koei
Ni-oh

Also in developemnt...
Dark Secotr, Dirty Harry, Battle Angel, Alita, Project Avalon, Endless Saga, Lair, Possession, Death Jr., Metronome, Psychopath, FF XIII, Alan Wake

Believe it or not?

Are the graphics in Sony's E3 game trailers really what PS3 games will look like, or were they just tyring to steal the competition's thunder? Well, the turth is, it's mostly the former with a little bit of the latter mixed in.

The most questions have been raised about the validity of the Killzone PS3 "footage." Most observers were quick to call it pre-rendered CG. Hawk-eyed online chatters found evidence of polygon clipping and other hallmarks of real game footage in frame-by-frame sleuthing. One of our sources has this take: "They will get close to that [the E3 footage], but you will notice that it will simply feel different and some things will not look as good,' they said. However, they were quick to point out: "That was on hardware kicking out frames every five seconds; it was a guestimate to promised perforance. I am sure it is running great now on the lastes dev kit with some sacrifice to the final quality."


Oh, one more thing:

Red Cloak said:
Red_Cloak> hey
<MiG> uh, hey
<Red_Cloak> http://forums.gaming-age.com/showth...85&page=2&pp=50
<Red_Cloak> break the news to them, the Marvel MMORPG is being deved by MS
<Red_Cloak> so.... that 'psm news' is faked
<Red_Cloak> same goes with suidoken v being a ps3 title
<Red_Cloak> it's ps2
<MiG> and uh, who are you
<Red_Cloak> dr bungholio
<Red_Cloak> seriously, they think it's fake, but no one has noticed that marvel portion of the post
<Red_Cloak> that would be like everquest going to the xbox
<Red_Cloak> tell em 'dr bungholio' sent ya
<Red_Cloak> you posting it?
<MiG> I'll just copy, paste this :/
<Red_Cloak> k lol

:lol
 
Amir0x said:
Hm. LOL @ "PSP WTF?" on the cover. It's been a while since I got a subscription for PSM during the PSX days, but man it sure has come a long way. A long way to crap.

No matter, I guess it's true.

Which means... either PSM has got this info wrong, or they didn't. But I doubt very much that they'd get a story as big as GTA4 on PS3 with such and such engine wrong. DCharlie seems to disagree. You seem to disagree with DCharlie. Who do I believe?

LOL. Dcharlie disagrees with about every other positive ps3 news and tries to conjure up doubt by making statements like "can't wait to see reactions at E3, TGS.... You guys just wait and see, the real next gen block busters have yet to be determined…” He also veils his obvious MS bias by stopping himself short of praising MS, just continuously doubting sony. Oh and dont' froget he buys all the systems which to him = no bias lol. Get real man, I own the ps2 and the xbox... but im sure as hell honest about being in the sony camp :)

He sings the same monotone tune all the time. Ignore. :D
 
Izzy said:
Now that we know the info is true, let's take a look at the most interesting bits, again:

No we don't. We only know PSM reported it. PSM reports and the truth aren't necessarily one and the same ;)

Unless you want to confirm some things yourself..:P
 
Doube D said:
LOL. Dcharlie disagrees with about every other positive ps3 news and tries to conjure up doubt by making statements like "can't wait to see reactions at E3, TGS....

I also have the impression that Dcharlie is more about what he'd like than what he knows.
 
gofreak said:
No we don't. We only know PSM reported it. PSM reports and the truth aren't necessarily one and the same ;)

Unless you want to confirm some things yourself..:P

I gave you a huge hint for one game in this thread alone. :D
 
gofreak said:
No we don't. We only know PSM reported it. PSM reports and the truth aren't necessarily one and the same ;)

Unless you want to confirm some things yourself..:P

It's a hell of a lot more confirmation than anything on ign, gamespot, 1up, or GA itself. So if you aren't going to take what they say as confirmation, then you should also consider everything else reported by these internet sites as vapor ware. The point is, if a print mag confirms it in its editorial pages (not the rumor sections), its confirmed (minor exceptions and errors aside). Sure, projects can be changed at a later date but as of the publication date, it’s the real deal. :)
 
Doube D said:
LOL. Dcharlie disagrees with about every other positive ps3 news and tries to conjure up doubt by making statements like "can't wait to see reactions at E3, TGS.... You guys just wait and see, the real next gen block busters have yet to be determined…” He also veils his obvious MS bias by stopping himself short of praising MS, just continuously doubting sony. Oh and dont' froget he buys all the systems which to him = no bias lol. Get real man, I own the ps2 and the xbox... but im sure as hell honest about being in the sony camp :)

He sings the same monotone tune all the time. Ignore. :D

Don't slander DCharlie, man. He may prefer MS systems, but he's truthful and good people. I think Izzy is cool too, and I believe him too. So it's a matter of sources - one is right, one is wrong. These people are cool, though.
 
GRAND THEFT AUTO 4 - WHERE IS IT GOING?

Izzy, what have you heard on the subject matter, and what position do you hold in the gaming industry to put some credibility to your info?

DCharlie, what have you heard on the subject matter, and what position do you hold in the gaming industry to put some credibility to your info?


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Gaijin To Ronin said:
Nice... how will be PS3 Castlevania? do you think Igarashi is managing this?

If Kojima has his way David Jaffe would be in charge of the next Castlevania and unless Iga decides to make it 2D thats what I'd want as well.
 
Amir0x said:
Don't slander DCharlie, man. He may prefer MS systems, but he's truthful and good people. I think Izzy is cool too, and I believe him too. So it's a matter of sources - one is right, one is wrong. These people are cool, though.

Awww, nice words - I agree completely. ;)

OT - check this post, Amirox. You just might like it. :)
 
Izzy said:
I gave you a huge hint for one game in this thread alone. :D

Haha, well I'll thank you for it, and take it under due consideration. I hope you are right :)

Doube D said:
It's a hell of a lot more confirmation than anything on ign, gamespot, 1up, or GA itself. So if you aren't going to take what they say as confirmation, then you should also consider everything else reported by these internet sites as vapor ware.

I'd prefer to retain a conservative scepticism. The thing is, these other sites don't report on PS3 "exclusives" with anything near the speculative/rumour slant as PSM, or with the same frequency. Like I said earlier, not a month can go by without some PSM PS3 "exclusive" - I'm just suspicious of that.

I'm naturally conservative with things like this though, so don't mind me :)
 
Elios83 said:
I also have the impression that Dcharlie is more about what he'd like than what he knows.

I've been saying this for quite a while now. The sad thing is he doesn't consider himself to be a fanboy. :P
 
jett said:
I've been saying for quite a while not. The sad thing is he doesn't consider himself to be a fanboy.

in the past dc charlie was a everythingsony hataz,thats is what i remember some time ago,but now he is more "civilized" :lol

by the way ,who is the guy on dccharlie avatar´s?
 
i feel great knowing i get to play next-gen POP, RE, MGS, PES, GTA on my PS3. feels great, wow go ps3 :D :lol

now the only thing we need now is silent hill.
 
Zer0 said:
in the past dc charlie was a everythingsony hataz,thats is what i remember some time ago,but now he is more "civilized" :lol

by the way ,who is the guy on dccharlie avatar´s?

Looks like the dude from smallville.
 
DCharlie is a really nice poster. You can agree or disagree, but he is worth listening with attention (and he doen´t hate Sony :P).

I will give credit to PSM. The reports doen´t seem anything incredible at all. All is quite logical and in line of what is expected to be PS3. And well, apart of Makamura, that is quite a surprise, and some more, there are lot of titles in that list that we knew already or could have guessed.

Who is developing Alita? anyone knows?
 
I can't wait for Silent Hill 5.

The developers said that the plot in SH5 was what was supposed to be SH3 but they delayed it due to some fans demanding continuation on SH1. They also said it was the most nasty and barrier braking of them all.

Now in PS3 graphics. :D
 
DCharlie doesn't hate Sony. He's been burnt by their stuff recently, but thats about it.

He just wants a good strong fight, and for companies to not fuck up royally. He's clearly fed up with Sony winning so strongly and yet still making mistakes.

Maybe MS can make Sony sharpen their act? Who knows.
 
mrklaw said:
DCharlie doesn't hate Sony. He's been burnt by their stuff recently, but thats about it.

He just wants a good strong fight, and for companies to not fuck up royally. He's clearly fed up with Sony winning so strongly and yet still making mistakes.

Maybe MS can make Sony sharpen their act? Who knows.

Well their act is pretty damn sharp..well so far at least with PS3.

I remember DCharlie explaining before, roughly, that after seeing how Sony operates from the inside, he couldn't fathom how they were leading the market and was worried they were asleep at the wheel. Or something to that effect.

But sofar from I've see of PS3 and their strategy and how they've introduced it, I don't think anything could be further from the truth. Their strategy isn't perfect, I'm sure we'll see flaws emerge as things get closer to being "real", but they certainly don't seem complacent and they're looking and acting very much like they're in control. Let's see if they keep that going. Competition, and MS has been good for them, and I think they appreciate the concept of continuous improvement even if they are at the top of the market.
 
Wollan said:
The developers said that the plot in SH5 was what was supposed to be SH3 but they delayed it due to some fans demanding continuation on SH1. They also said it was the most nasty and barrier braking of them all.

Now in PS3 graphics. :D
holy shit. i hope SH5 turns out to be as good as the first three. 4 sucked, although the soundtrack rocks. i'm listening to it right now.

yamaoka is easily one of the best composers in the business.
 
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