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[CO_Andy]

Whenever i pick-up a magazine unrelated to core gaming (like PC World, News Week), i usually find an article inside promoting the PSP (and nothing on the DS).

Do these editors even play games? They're always praising the PSP's features, but could barely go in-depth to the system's games.

I guess this explains the profitable UMD market here.

 

[drohne]

because the ds is a technological disaster? even the touchscreen is as crude and unresponsive as touchscreens come.

 

[Mrbob]

You answered your own question in your thread title.

 

[Scrow]

because PSP is more a tech gadget then it is a game machine. vice-versa for DS

 

[GitarooMan]

I think the DS hardware is pretty dated. The touchscreen is a unique addition for games, but it's not like touchscreen technology in general hasn't been around for awhile. PSP is just newer and more powerful, hence more interesting to tech people.

And no, I don't think they play many games, they're more interested in the system technology

 

[borghe]

because "techies" are more interested in emulators, watching movies and listening to music. the more multi-faceted a device is is more important to the techie crowd than what it has. Even though the DS game lineup is fairly considered well ahead of the PSP, the fact that you can watch movies and listen to music is more important to that crowd. Nevermind the fact that they usually have half a dozen devices that can do all of that stuff to an even better degree than the PSP.

they're more interested in the system technology

a very eloquent way to say what I was trying to. the games do not matter to the techie crowd.

 

[TheGrue]

I think it is because the PSP has an easy way to get code running on the device with the ability to plug the thing directly to a ocmputer and store programs on the memory card, all with no extra money spent. With the DS, you need to buy equipment to get it hooked up to the computer and therefore people don't develop for it as much.

Which device do I play more? The DS hands down.

 

[Ceb]

because "techies" are more interested in emulators, watching movies and listening to music.

Equally good games, better graphics and sound, emulators, movies and music > good games, touch screen.

For the record, I own and like both, but the DS is rather unexciting as a piece of electronics.

 

[Paladin69]

...even the touchscreen is as crude and unresponsive as touchscreens come.

stupid much?

 

[xavean1]

even the touchscreen is as crude and unresponsive as touchscreens come.

I've used newer PDAs and the experience is exactly the same as with the DS (albeit the DS is likely running at a lower, per-pixel display).

So what are you talking about?

 

[littlewig]

stupid much?

Paladin for the win!

 

[Kai Dracon]

because the ds is a technological disaster? even the touchscreen is as crude and unresponsive as touchscreens come.

Trolling tip of the day: outright lies are poor form. Please press start to continue from the last checkpoint.

 

[shuri]

It's also underpowered. Yes A 15$ passme can hack the DS and make it play commercial roms and homebrew, but techies dont really care much about doing coding with the DS since its so underpowered and not really fun to work with.

The PSP has cool toys like the wireless media player being worked on, while the DS has uuh.. a half working snes emulator and uhh.. shitty ports of freeware games

Who gives a fuck?

 

[drohne]

my pda is an ancient hand-me-down, and its touchscreen requires less stylus pressure and is clearly higher-resolution (i don't mean the resolution of the display; i mean how finely it records penstrokes). i know nintendo builds cheap handhelds, but i'm still surprised they used such a cheap touchscreen. doesn't bode well for revolution.

 

[Razoric]

my pda is an ancient hand-me-down, and its touchscreen requires less stylus pressure and is clearly higher-resolution (i don't mean the resolution of the display; i mean how finely it records penstrokes). i know nintendo builds cheap handhelds, but i'm still surprised they used such a cheap touchscreen. doesn't bode well for revolution.

oh shit

 

[drohne]

everyone who owns a ds is playing castlevania, right? you know how it makes you write your name at the beginning? post visual evidence of anything better than blocky baby-scrawl and i'll concede. :lol

 

[xavean1]

my pda is an ancient hand-me-down, and its touchscreen requires less stylus pressure and is clearly higher-resolution (i don't mean the resolution of the display; i mean how finely it records penstrokes). i know nintendo builds cheap handhelds, but i'm still surprised they used such a cheap touchscreen. doesn't bode well for revolution.

The resolution of the touchscreen works perfectily for the DS functionality. I'd like to know of one game that's hindered because the touchscreen isn't more precise.

And what does this even have to do with the Revolution?? Every single place has reported good things about it, saying how ultra precise it is.

 

[AniHawk]

everyone who owns a ds is playing castlevania, right? you know how it makes you write your name at the beginning? post visual evidence of anything better than blocky chicken-scrawl and i'll concede. :lol

You dumbass. Now we're going to have a 3 page thread of nothing but crappy pictures trying to prove you wrong.

Wait a minute, now I get it.

 

[xavean1]

everyone who owns a ds is playing castlevania, right? you know how it makes you write your name at the beginning? post visual evidence of anything better than blocky baby-scrawl and i'll concede. :lol

You can either switch between a fine line or a larger line of writing. When you do the fine line, its ultra precise. Why is it still blocky? Because of the resolution of the DS's screen itself.

 

[Triumph]

You dumbass. Now we're going to have a 3 page thread of nothing but crappy pictures trying to prove you wrong.

Wait a minute, now I get it.

Indeed, the force has become strong with you young AniHawk...

 

[borghe]

Equally good games, better graphics and sound, emulators, movies and music > good games, touch screen.

For the record, I own and like both, but the DS is rather unexciting as a piece of electronics.

HIGHLY debatable. PSP is literally a portable playstation. if you were tired of the franchises on the PS2 you will be tired of them on the PSP.

DS is entirely new for the most part. Yoshi, Feel the Magic, Kirby, Trauma Center, Meteos, Animal Crossing (4 player online version that is), and of course, all hail the dogs. entirely new games and entirely new ways of playing the games.

PSP has some good games, but equally is hardly a word I would use to compare the two.

 

[IJoel]

Maybe techies don't care about obsolete technology.

 

[Triumph]

Nintendo's products are well made. I dropped my ds and there are no scratches, no dents, no mess.

Well made but ancient tech. You're missing the point(of course you WANT to miss the point, but that's another story).

 

[DarkAngelYuna]

So, wheres the pictures? Everyone seems to afraid to post their name pics :lol

 

[Kai Dracon]

..You're not serious?

Kaijima I've been wondering for the longest time, what is your avatar? I see Kimari from FFX when I look at it.

It's a personal characterization - my own sprite art. I've been meanting to make more sprite-style icons. Gotta get around to it.

 

[MoxManiac]

I can't comment on the touchscreen comment, but the DS is woefully underpowered, like the GBA was.

 

[GitarooMan]

HIGHLY debatable. PSP is literally a portable playstation. if you were tired of the franchises on the PS2 you will be tired of them on the PSP.

DS is entirely new for the most part. Yoshi, Feel the Magic, Kirby, Trauma Center, Meteos, Animal Crossing (4 player online version that is), and of course, all hail the dogs. entirely new games and entirely new ways of playing the games.

PSP has some good games, but equally is hardly a word I would use to compare the two.

I don't want to start some big PSP vs. DS debate, but I tend to disagree with the common consensus that DS blows away PSP game wise. One easy example is in racing, in which the DS doesn't have anything worthwhile yet

Here my DS and PSP games

DS
Meteos
Spider-Man 2
Mario
Nanostray
Castlevania
Trauma Center

PSP
Ridge Racer
Lumines
Wipeout
Medievil
Darkstalkers
Death Jr.
Namco Collection

These are obviously not all the good games for each system (IMO Kirby is the most glaring omission from my DS collection), but in my mind they are pretty equal. I think because the PSP had such a good launch and hasn't had much since sort of shades it. As you said, though, taste plays a role. Portable Ridge Racer and Medievil interests me as much as a unique game like Trauma Center. I just think the "lack of quality games on PSP vs. DS" is a little overstated.

 

[Deku]

So, wheres the pictures? Everyone seems to afraid to post their name pics :lol

I think they are waiting for drohne to post a picture of his PSP's touchscreen sensitity.

I just think the "lack of quality games on PSP vs. DS" is a little overstated.

Part of it has to do with expectations as well. DS in the last month has racked up several major game announcements while all I hear from the PSP side is people croaking about GTA: LCS as the savoir.

I can't help but be reminded of the N64 era when I laughed at the N64 owners who kept going on and on about Zelda while I was playing my FF7. The roles have reversed.

 

[Zer0]

I think they are waiting for drohne to post a picture of his PSP's touchscreen sensitity.


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how fucking original!!!

 

[Koshiro]

Who cares? Just play the awesome games and let the good times roll. I swear if everyone took that approach instead of bowing to popularity and what's 'in', the world would be a better place.

 

[Scrow]

I can't comment on the touchscreen comment, but the DS is woefully underpowered, like the GBA was.

bzuh?






well this thread is going down an expected and predictable path. the usual faces throwing a line out, looking for a bite. (see below)

 

[Triumph]

I think they are waiting for drohne to post a picture of his PSP's touchscreen sensitity.

WAY TO MISS THE BOAT

I'm also waiting for all the DS owners to post a picture of playing emus on the DS, or watching movies, or listening to mp3s... oh wait. Yeah.

 

[drohne]

nintendo means to infantilize you: you can drop your ds with impunity, but writing your name becomes a struggle. grow up and buy a psp. it breaks when you drop it and you can't put your fat gummy fingers all over the screen. but it filters textures.

i was going to start a new game of castlevania, write "this touchscreen sucks" in the name entry box, and take a picture for you. i even went and got my digicam. but the plan fell through because i couldn't write it legibly. AAAHHHHHH

 

[borghe]

WAY TO MISS THE BOAT

I'm also waiting for all the DS owners to post a picture of playing emus on the DS, or watching movies, or listening to mp3s... oh wait. Yeah.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/play_yan_micro/
http://nintendo-ds.dcemu.co.uk/

 

[Drinky Crow]

Because the DS hardware is painfully archaic and about as interesting as banging two rocks together to a fan of technology?

I own 9 PSP games and 3 DS games, so the DS is pretty much a wash for decent gaming, too. How you fruits can start flipping your bulging babyfat little wrists over crap like Animal Crossing totally blows my mind. Have you considered asking your doctor for manual assistance in forcing your (presumed) testicles to descend?

 

[Scrow]

WAY TO MISS THE BOAT

I'm also waiting for all the DS owners to post a picture of playing emus on the DS, or watching movies, or listening to mp3s... oh wait. Yeah.

oh the irony :lol

 

[IJoel]

nintendo means to infantilize us: we can drop our ds'es with impunity, but writing our names becomes a struggle. grow up and buy a psp. it breaks when you drop it and you can't put your fat gummy fingers all over the screen. but it filters textures.

i was going to start a new game of castlevania, write "this touchscreen sucks" in the name entry box, and take a picture for all of you. i even went and got my digicam. but the plan fell through because i couldn't write it legibly. AAAHHHHHHH

:lol

 

[Pimpwerx]

The DS is an underpowered POS. It's the equivalent of releasing a DC next year to compete with the PS3 and 360. It doesn't even pretend to push the envelope, relying on a gimmick more than anything. That said, the Japanese love them dogs and brain training. PEACE.

 

[Deku]

WAY TO MISS THE BOAT
.

What boat a sinking one?

I'm also waiting for all the DS owners to post a picture of playing emus on the DS, or watching movies, or listening to mp3s... oh wait. Yeah

Play-yan? And they can listen to MP3s and watch videos on the micro too, which is about four times smaller and actually portable.

I think several posters here have that. Don't make an ass of yourself man.

BTW, what's that fat man doing. What happened to your chavez avatar?

 

[White Man]

my pda is an ancient hand-me-down, and its touchscreen requires less stylus pressure and is clearly higher-resolution (i don't mean the resolution of the display; i mean how finely it records penstrokes). i know nintendo builds cheap handhelds, but i'm still surprised they used such a cheap touchscreen. doesn't bode well for revolution.

My PDA is also a couple years old, and the touch screen is much more responsive than my DS. My DS also has more dead/stuck pixels than my PSP. The past couple weeks have brought out some awesome games, though.

 

[Kai Dracon]

The funny thing about the DS hardware, is that it happens to retail for a hundred bucks (now a hundred and twenty bucks) less than the PSP. And I'm willing to bet Ninteno has a larger profit margin on manufacturing than Sony does on the PSP - is Sony even breaking even yet?

The comments that the DS is horribly underpowered, seem to be only comparing the two for polygon performance. I can't believe anyone who hasn't played 2D or 2.5D games on the DS for any length of time can't see that it's both way more powerful than the GBA, and pretty formidable for 2D stuff on its own. As for the 3D, I have to say - so it's a noticably improved PSOne with a lot of the benefits of the N64 hardware. Nanostray shows just how good that can look and it's still a first-gen game. Nintendogs also looks pretty damn good however you slice it. The truth of the matter, is that a lot of PSP games only end up looking *slightly* better than 3D on the DS - I was honestly disappointed by Burnout Legends, finding it in a lot of ways very bad by PSP's best standards.

As for being "cheap", it's funny that the other night I was just pondering how well-made the DS felt to me in an overall sense. Its industrial design, etc. Playing Castlevania, the first really hardcore 2D action game, has given me a new respect for the quality of the pad and buttons on the DS - as far as I can tell, they're absolutely great. Christ awmighty, I WISH the PSP had a D-pad as good as the DS has. (Disclaimer: I can see how folks with physically larger hands and meaty fingers could have trouble with the DS's face buttons.)

Note: I own a PSP as well

As far as the touch screen goes, as far as I can tell the damn thing is perfectly responsive and very sensitive. Playing Kirby for ungodly hours proved this to me - there is however no way around the fact that the DS' screen resolution is lower than the PSP and other high-end PDA devices. It just ain't the digitizing overlay's fault that there are big pixels.

 

[Drinky Crow]

Kaijima, I ain't seeing the improved 2D power -- all I see is some extra 3D effects tossed in, but even that is crippled by the SNES-era resolution. The PSP is the machine I want for 2D.

I can't see how you aren't impressed by Burnout: Legends -- my head lashes back and my hair gets all Christopher Lloyd from Back to the Future when I fire it up -- but hey: I find the DS 3D utterly intolerable and it seems some of you like them big ol' 4-bit fist-sized unfiltered texels, so what do I know?

 

[Triumph]

What boat a sinking one?



Play-yan? And they can listen to MP3s and watch videos on the micro too, which is about four times smaller and actually portable.

I think several posters here have that. Don't make an ass of yourself man.

BTW, what's that fat man doing. What happened to your chavez avatar?

Well, that just goes to show you that ignorance really is bliss. I didn't know any of that, but I was really happy. Finding it out made me sad; then I realized that the quality of the playing/viewing/listening experience was likely to be shitty compared to the PSP, and now I am happy again. The circle of life!

That fat man is Chris Farley as Matt Foley, Motivational Speaker. He's living in a van, down by the river. His wife kicked him out because he liked Nintendo.

 

[Xrenity]

because the ds is a technological disaster? even the touchscreen is as crude and unresponsive as touchscreens come.

Lol, you didn't play it right?
And if you did, it was at a store somewhere.

am I right!?

 

[Musashi Wins!]

I don't understand what the games debate has to do with the question. Or touch sceen sensitivity either.

It's just not that interesting/expandable from a tech perspective unless you're a game maker. I'm not sure it's as interesting as some make it out to be from that perspective either, but if it keeps up the 2D gba train, yay!

 

[Arluss]

So far I've enjoyed my DS more than my PSP.

That said I find the PSP very useful for internet browsing when I don't feel like being at my computer. Also web comics. The mp3 player in it is not to my liking though. I'm gonna keep my iPod.

But, as far as games are concerned, I've enjoyed my DS. I just need to pick up new games for it over my PS2 which has been getting more love lately.

 

[drohne]

watching kaijima talk himself into the belief that the ds is nearly as powerful as psp is pretty scary. but on the other hand that's one of the few kaijima posts that lacks a creepy pro-furry subtext. OH I WENT THERE.

 

[MoxManiac]

Are you trying to argue that the GBA -wasn't- underpowered right out of the gate? The resolution was low, and no dedicated sound chip, so a lot of games sounded horrible. I love the GBA's library, and have a ton of games for it, but the hardware was anything but revolutionary or impressive.

 

[the year 20XX]

watching kaijima talk himself into the belief that the ds is nearly as powerful as psp is pretty scary. but on the other hand that's one of the few kaijima posts that lacks a creepy pro-furry subtext. OH I WENT THERE.

Okay, your earlier post in this thread about the touch screen was kinda 'meh', but you have totally redeemed yourself. A++++ WOULD READ POST FROM AGAIN

 

[bumpkin]

everyone who owns a ds is playing castlevania, right? you know how it makes you write your name at the beginning? post visual evidence of anything better than blocky baby-scrawl and i'll concede. :lol

I found Castlevania's writing thing far better than Polarium's; Now *that* was shitty utilization! I didn't find it to be any worse than my fiance's Dell Axim.