I tried buying Shovel Knight on my WiiU and realized my gamepad's AC adapter was busted. No big deal, I turn on my WiiU with my pro controller and go to the eShop. Lo and behold, I try to buy Shovel Knight before I'm greeted with a screen that tells me to enter my payment info with my Gamepad. wat. I realize almost everyone with a WiiU has the gamepad, but this is still a stupid, mindless restriction. What's the point of it? Security? Why not block the number as you enter it on the screen? I guess it's reason #1505 why Nintendo is still ass-backwards on certain aspects of their online system UI.
Why can't I enter my credit card info without a WiiU gamepad?
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Coffee Dog
Banned
How is the Wii U's UI even remotely related to online?
The UI requires the game pad in certain areas and that's stupid, but framing it as some kind of problem endemic of their online policies seems like more than a small leap.
The UI requires the game pad in certain areas and that's stupid, but framing it as some kind of problem endemic of their online policies seems like more than a small leap.
Whatever you wanna call it. Don't get caught up on semantics.
shadyspace
Banned
Can you buy eshop games with a web browser now?
TheMoon
Member
100% of Wii U owners = "almost everyone"
Yes, but only first party titles, only for Wii U, and only in North America.
Supermanisdead
Member
its just another one of the bullshit forced gamepad sections of the UI. no reason to do it, but try to justify the peripheral.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Is it a peripheral if it is both included and mandatory?
Jawmuncher
Member
They want you to think its a added security measure.
Almost everyone?
I have no idea how this relates to the topic.
But it's likely just an interface oversight compounded by the fact that not many people are navigating those forms without the gamepad. In fact many of Wii U's interfaces have been updated to support non-gamepad controllers in various system updates.
I personally wish they'd just throw in GCN controller support for Warawara plaza. Can't be too hard even if it's for one game.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
How long has your gamepad AC adapter been broken/how did it break?
You think typing would be better done without the gamepad?
ArcaneFreeze
Member
Its like they want you to use the primary controller of the system. Shocking. The Pro Controller is supposed to be the side controller, not the main one. Thats why WiiUs ship with gamepads and not pro controllers. I know its a really hard concept for people to wrap their head around.
No clue how it broke or for how long. I've been mostly using my Pro controller whenever I turned on my WiiU.
Is it the adapter or just the plug?
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
This is such a bizarre thread. You can complain about it (it would make sense for the pro to allow you to perform all system menu options), but there's nothing wrong with Nintendo's assumption that EVERY Wii U owner has a working gamepad. Whether that's true or not (mainly if you broke yours or the charger), it's a perfectly valid assumption to design the UI around
Princess Viola
Member
how in the hell is the standard controller that comes included with every console a "peripheral"
Adapter. The tip is slightly deformed and can't fit it in the gamepad. I tried reshaping with a sharp object and managed to make it fit, but it's still not charging.
TheMoon
Member
because OP doesn't like it, apparently^^
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
This reminds me of the headphone jack thread where just because the OP prefers the pro controller, the fact that every standard Wii U controller (gamepad) has a headphone jack is somewhat negated
I just don't get why they have to make such a basic menu functionality locked behind it. They knew people were gonna use other controllers to navigate the console, so why lock it to the gamepad? There's other ways to justify gamepad use.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
I don't think it's unreasonable of the OP for wanting to enter his credit card info with something other than the gamepad, but as others have said, it's not so much on an "online" issue as it is a general oversight.
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
*shrugs*
They just didn't get around to it, I guess. They're probably busier working on stability than whether people don't want to/can't use their gamepads lol
I don't think that's a good reason.
stan423321
Member
They didn't.
Nintendo realized really too late that someone may want to not use the GamePad; perhaps Wii U would be something completely different if they got it earlier. The other controllers were initially meant primarily for compatibility with Wii and multiplayer titles.
They have ended up throwing in basic functionality for other controllers where it was easiest to do later in OS history (basic eShop support? 5.1.0). But they have skipped the problematic parts so far. Yes, CC info screen is sort of problematic. It was programmed separately specifically with the idea of your CC number not showing on TV. This is not a priority for Nintendo to fix, honestly.
Maybe try it with the cradle, also less risky since u aren't directly connecting an expensive gamepad to a plug u just reshaped.
Supermanisdead
Member
clearly yes for the OP. i mean beisdes a handful of games, its mostly a pointless thing. OP has been using his wii u for a while without even being able to charge the controller, yet a really basic function is tied exclusively to the gamepad for no discernable reason.
The reason is its 1000x easier to type with the gamepad.
They didn't actively choose to lock it to justify the gamepad. They just didn't actively choose to build out a new UI (time + effort + bug checking) for a controller very few people will be browsing the eshop with, because the % of cases where this might pose a problem is absolutely minuscule.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I can still remember the days when you had to use the GamePad to do anything at all on the eShop. A bit disappointing they left some corners unturned in adding support tor the Pro Controller.
If the OP has a 3DS with the same NNID linked they could add funds from the 3DS...unless you need a Gamepad to purchase games off the eShop or something, those confirmation screens won't tap themselves...
If the OP has a 3DS with the same NNID linked they could add funds from the 3DS...unless you need a Gamepad to purchase games off the eShop or something, those confirmation screens won't tap themselves...
Spieler Eins
Member
Because the system was clearly designed by chimpanzees. My AC adapter was also dead last year and it's astonishing that such a minor hindrance can kill so many basic functions, requiring you to send the fucker in to Nintendo, while on every normal system you could just grab your second controller.
Build a new UI??? Why is what I'm asking such a huge investment? Unless I'm completely ignorant of how these fixes work, why is it such an insane thing to ask for? It's not even that big of a deal, it's just dumb. I bet AC adapters and gamepads break occasionally, and people want to still use some aspects of the UI without having to pay for a new adapter or repairs.
Aren't gamepad chargers like $10?
Nobody fucking gives a shit that's why? To throw any staff at this at all would be god damn stupid.
Nobody fucking gives a shit that's why? To throw any staff at this at all would be god damn stupid.
SerTapTap
Member
That's not a good reason to REQUIRE it. Just let the controller buttons move a cursor on the keyboard like every other console, I think some inputs on Wii U even let you do it already. They also specifically enabled the eshop to be used via the pro controller but other random shit still doesn't work, that's clearly a problem.
Okay, I'll rephrase. I don't expect them to fix it now. It's still a dumb decision to include something like this in the first place.
It's a huge investment compared to the minuscule benefit.
Nintendo expect you to replace your gamepad if it is broken, it's a fundamental part of the system. Making the (reasonable) expectation that everyone has one allows them to focus on building out one interface.
ArcaneFreeze
Member
Because out of 8million console owners probably not even .01% of them have the same complaints as you. They're not gonna waste they're time on something so miniscule when they expect everyone to use the controller that 100% of WiiU owners get when buying the system.
wat
Yeah, dumb decision to assume that a Wii U owner has the gamepad - which was shipped with every single console.
But at least they didn't release any games that require the primary controller of the console. That would be the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
That's like releasing games on the PS4, that require the DualShock 4. Why would anyone do such a thing???
Mysterious
Banned
I could use the Classic Controller and a wireless keyboard as an input on the Wii in lieu of the Wii Remote. So...
Spieler Eins
Member
A controller breaking is not some alien concept only a miniscule of people encounters. lol. Updating the console to be a normally functioning machine shouldn't be a waste of money to such a big publisher. Considering that both the main controller and the adapter are completely unique should actually make it even more mandatory to have it work in such a case. Unfortunately, no real thought went into the concept of the WiiU, so you end up with this mess.
I don't think anyone needs to justify it. It's not like Nintendo said "yeah, we're not doing that" if anything adding additional controller support over time is a vote that they do think giving users options is worthwhile. It's just not something they have gotten to (and may never), and while one could argue it may not be a tremendous effort they need to both identify and prioritize it with all other features because the resources to improve things is not unlimited.
I'm fairly certain it is aside from a core component of the system being broken there is literally no reason you would type it in otherwise. There are 0 use cases where this makes sense.