Why do people hate Cam Newton?

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3N16MA said:
Then why so much hate for him this season if he supposedly matured and learned? Seems that the hate was coming from fans of teams that are not even rivals of the Panthers. It also seemed to stem from his on field actions and not conforming to QB norms (whatever that is).
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Because he demolished teams in a show boaty fashion. It's bad enough watching your team lose. But then you have a guy dancing on your corpse and taking sideline photos, I can understand why that would get under people's skin.

I don't care about the celebrations and all that. I'm all for it. If you can't stop him then you'll have to deal with it. Now that he's on the otherside of it, he's come off like a child.
 
Wait, to those who are calling cam immature? Have yall personally met him to know the type of person he is? Or is celebrating something that's all of a sudden immature in a sport?
 
Ronin said:
Because he demolished teams in a show boaty fashion. It's bad enough watching your team lose. But then you have a guy dancing on your corpse and taking sideline photos, I can understand why that would get under people's skin.

I don't care about the celebrations and all that. I'm all for it. If you can't stop him then you'll have to deal with it. Now that he's on the otherside of it, he's come off like a child.
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I think its just emotion, its not as complicated as you make it. I for one am happy to watch sports not played by white robots for once.
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
Wait, to those who are calling cam immature? Have yall personally met him to know the type of person he is? Or is celebrating something that's all of a sudden immature in a sport?
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The celebrating isn't the immature part. That's just kind of arrogant.

The immature part is walking out of the press conference pouting like a baby because your team lost.
 
He's admittedly a guy that wears his emotions on his sleeve. When his team is losing, it makes people think he's sulking and pouty, when he's winning, it makes people think he's cocky and arrogant. There's no winning because he's not conforming to preconceived standards of what an athlete should or shouldn't act like and then people start to make judgements on a person's character based on the 60 minutes every week you see them. It's stupid. You don't know Cam Newton just like you don't know if Peyton is really classy or if that's just a really good act. No clue why this matters so much to people.
 
plop said:
The hate has always been there. You're just hearing more about it now because their amazing season made headlines all year. More time in the public eye leads to more praise and more scorn.
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I follow the NFL pretty closely and I know that Cam rubs some people the wrong way. However the hate was nowhere at the level it is now. Seems that a very good Panthers team and a MVP season put him on the national stage. Fans who didn't pay attention before finally gave him attention and didn't like what they saw.

I try not to but during the season if you skimmed through the comments on any story related to Cam you could almost smell the hate for the guy. It ran deep and there was a tone that made it more than fans simply being rivals of the panthers are not liking what he said.
 
Rhythmic said:
So this is getting posted all over twitter right now.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2010/02/08/manning-beats-unhappy-hasty-retreat.html


Manning outright walking away before the game was over and not getting the type of hate Newton is now but even having the report or sympathize with him.

Coincidence?
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People let the narratives drive their perceptions. The narrative tells us that Peyton is just an awe shucks classy guy so nobody is looking to pick apart everything he does after a loss.
 
Ronin said:
Because he demolished teams in a show boaty fashion. It's bad enough watching your team lose. But then you have a guy dancing on your corpse and taking sideline photos, I can understand why that would get under people's skin.

I don't care about the celebrations and all that. I'm all for it. If you can't stop him then you'll have to deal with it. Now that he's on the otherside of it, he's come off like a child.
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He's the guy tea bagging you after every quick scope he gets on you, talking shit in the game lobby as his team wins 5 straight matches against you. Then in match #6 you hit him with a dose of his own medicine, slapping your teabag on his chin as your team goes up by 20 kills, then he rage quits before the match ends.

Who likes that guy?
 
Zen_Arcade said:
The celebrating isn't the immature part. That's just kind of arrogant.

The immature part is walking out of the press conference pouting like a baby because your team lost.
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I agree that him walking off was over the top but I don't find that to be immature. He wasn't acting like a baby imo. He was fucking stressed out and all of it will have to be set upon the leader of the team. Could he had handled it better? Sure....

I just don't agree that immature is the word. He answered the questions and he walked off. What does anyone expect him to say? He held his peace to the players on the field and while it is apart of the job doing the press conferences, he answered what he needed to.
 
The Beard said:
He's the guy tea bagging you after every quick scope he gets on you, talking shit in the game lobby as his team wins 5 straight matches against you. Then in match #6 you hit him with a dose of his own medicine, slapping your teabag on his chin as your team goes up by 20 kills, then he rage quits before the match ends.

Who likes that guy?
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ahahahaha
well said
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
I agree that him walking off was over the top but I don't find that to be immature. He wasn't acting like a baby imo. He was fucking stressed out and all of it will have to be set upon the leader of the team. Could he had handled it better? Sure....

I just don't agree that immature is the word. He answered the questions and he walked off. What does anyone expect him to say? He held his peace to the players on the field and while it is apart of the job doing the press conferences, he answered what he needed to.
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It carries over from the sidelines too. This goes back early in his career. Even when a team is losing, the QB is going around doing the leader thing trying to fire his guys up and keep them in the game. Cam throws a towel over his head and pouts by himself on the bench.

Then there's part where he's literally rolling around on the ground throwing a tantrum.
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
I agree that him walking off was over the top but I don't find that to be immature. He wasn't acting like a baby imo. He was fucking stressed out and all of it will have to be set upon the leader of the team. Could he had handled it better? Sure....

I just don't agree that immature is the word. He answered the questions and he walked off. What does anyone expect him to say? He held his peace to the players on the field and while it is apart of the job doing the press conferences, he answered what he needed to.
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He didn't really answer the questions. He gave really short answers like a kid who got in trouble. Half the time he just shook his head. Out of maybe 10 questions, he answered one with any sort of effort.

There is always a team who has to sit in the seat he's in after the Super Bowl. Pretty much all of them actually try to do their job and talk to the press, and the vast majority of them never even get close to walking out of the room less than two minutes in. Not being able to lose, suck it up, and take your lumps without literally walking away from the situation is pretty immature.
 
Ronin said:
It carries over from the sidelines too. This goes back early in his career. Even when a team is losing, the QB is going around doing the leader thing trying to fire his guys up and keep them in the game. Cam throws a towel over his head and pouts by himself on the bench.

Then there's part where he's literally rolling around on the ground throwing a tantrum.
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Why does he have to do "the leader thing" that you've already decided is how all QBs should act based on nothing? Do Cam's teammates hate him? Do they think he needs to act differently? He's the same guy who pouted, by his own admission, and this year he was able to go 15-1 and make it to the Super Bowl. Could it be that all that pouting and body language reading people like you try and do is just bullshit and the reality is that this year he and his teammates simply played better than they have in the past?
 
Quotes from here
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw


Peyton Manning didn't shake hands with New Orleans Saints players after his Indianapolis Colts lost 31-17 in Super Bowl XLIV. Apparently some think this is a sign of poor sportsmanship from the NFL's greatest player. It's not.
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It's not a sign of bad sportsmanship? Oh OK then.


Walking off the field without congratulating Drew Brees may go against our misguided notion of what sportsmanship should be, but it wasn't at all disrespectful or bitter. It shows how much Peyton Manning wanted to win the game. And who can argue about that?"
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Not a poor sport just was about how much he wanted to win. Unlike Newton who left a presser that was set up right next to the winning teams presser and he had to listen to all the reporters take cheap shots at him.
 
Rhythmic said:
Quotes from here
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=NYDailyNewsTw




It's not a sign of bad sportsmanship? Oh OK then.




Not a poor sport just was about how much he wanted to win. Unlike Newton who left a presser that was set up right next to the winning teams presser and he had to listen to all the reporters take cheap shots him.
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Perfect example of the media telling people how to feel and people eating it up. "Peyton can't be disrespectful! He's Peyton Manning! He's a good ol' wholesome boy! But Cam? he dances when his team is winning so clearly everything he does must be taken as a sign of poor sportsmanship and disrespect! Grow up, boy!"
 
Talking to the media doesn't do anything for the players. Interviews are for the media's benefit. And Cam doesn't work in the team's PR department.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
Why does he have to do "the leader thing" that you've already decided is how all QBs should act based on nothing? Do Cam's teammates hate him? Do they think he needs to act differently? He's the same guy who pouted, by his own admission, and this year he was able to go 15-1 and make it to the Super Bowl. Could it be that all that pouting and body language reading people like you try and do is just bullshit and the reality is that this year he and his teammates simply played better than they have in the past?
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I'm not saying he has to do all of that. I'm just saying when you see a grown man behaving exactly like my 6 year old nephew, it's easy to see why people could view him as immature
 
Ronin said:
I'm not saying he has to do all of that. I'm just saying when you see a grown man behaving exactly like my 6 year old nephew, it's easy to see why people could view him as immature
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I'm saying you see what you want to see. You've made your judgement about him already, based on a few moments when he experienced a very public disappointment and didn't handle it up to your standards.
 
The Beard said:
He's the guy tea bagging you after every quick scope he gets on you, talking shit in the game lobby as his team wins 5 straight matches against you. Then in match #6 you hit him with a dose of his own medicine, slapping your teabag on his chin as your team goes up by 20 kills, then he rage quits before the match ends.

Who likes that guy?
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This is exactly how I explained it to a friend of mine who doesn't really watch football
 
I love the people that compare Cam's reaction after losing the SB to Russell Wilson's. First off, for better or worse, at least I know it's Cam I'm seeing last night, warts and all. With Wilson, it's some meticulously planned persona he has created to make himself marketable to everyone. I have no idea who the real Russell Wilson is which is fine is you want a guy that "says all the right things" and is an extension PR piece for the team.

Second, and more important, Russell had already won a SB the previous year. This wasn't his first dance so while painful, it ain't the same.

Lastly, no two people are alike so comparing their reactions in crisis is a worthless exercise. For the record, I don't want all the QBs in the league to be cliché spewing robots. I like variety.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
I love the people that compare Cam's reaction after losing the SB to Russell Wilson's. First off, for better or worse, at least I know it's Cam I'm seeing last night, warts and all. With Wilson, it's some meticulously planned persona he has created to make himself marketable to everyone. I have no idea who the real Russell Wilson is which is fine is you want a guy that "says all the right things" and is an extension PR piece for the team.

Second, and more important, Russell had already won a SB the previous year. This wasn't his first dance so while painful, it ain't the same.

Lastly, no two people are alike so comparing their reactions in crisis is a worthless exercise. For the record, I don't want all the QBs in the league to be cliché spewing robots. I like variety.
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They are two different people. They act differently. It doesn't have to mean that one way of doing things is right and the other is wrong. The one thing I hate about sports media and sports fandom these days is how people feel the need to make declarative statements based on singular moments. Like people want to decide what kind of person Cam Newton is based on how he reacted on what is probably the worst day of his life (at least professionally) and because he didn't act the way others did.
 
The Beard said:
He's the guy tea bagging you after every quick scope he gets on you, talking shit in the game lobby as his team wins 5 straight matches against you. Then in match #6 you hit him with a dose of his own medicine, slapping your teabag on his chin as your team goes up by 20 kills, then he rage quits before the match ends.

Who likes that guy?
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Yep
 
Ninja Scooter said:
They are two different people. They act differently. It doesn't have to mean that one way of doing things is right and the other is wrong. The one thing I hate about sports media and sports fandom these days is how people feel the need to make declarative statements based on singular moments. Like people want to decide what kind of person Cam Newton is based on how he reacted on what is probably the worst day of his life (at least professionally) and because he didn't act the way others did.
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I honestly don't know what they wanted from him last night. Did they want to see him broken, about to cry and swearing he learned his lesson about being celebratory? Did they want him to smile and spit out a bunch of tired clichés and say he expected to get back there again? Did they want him to skip the presser all together? I don't get it.

I thought he looked like a real person with real emotion over losing the biggest game of his life. The person that he needed to be cordial to on the field, he was. He didn't owe the press or the public anything beyond that.
 
ryutaro's mama said:
I honestly don't know what they wanted from him last night. Did they want to see him broken, about to cry and swearing he learned his lesson about being celebratory? Did they want him to smile and spit out a bunch of tired clichés and say he expected to get back there again? Did they want him to skip the presser all together? I don't get it.

I thought he looked like a real person with real emotion over losing the biggest game of his life. The person that he needed to be cordial to on the field, he was. He didn't owe the press or the public anything beyond that.
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They got what they wanted, which was something they could turn into a story and use play fools like a fiddle and rile them up over something so meaningless. The same people saying that Cam should have just done what everyone else does and give a bunch of non-answers at the presser are the same people that probably wouldn't tune in to a press conference unless something sensational or scandalous happens.
 
Although I didn't like Cam Newton getting up and leaving in the middle of the presser, it's freaking understandable. He just lost the biggest game of his career, played terrible in it, and had to deal with questions of him not trying to recover that football. This is not just a special case, a lot of NFL players act the same way, this whole debate is freaking nonsense.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
I'm saying you see what you want to see. You've made your judgement about him already, based on a few moments when he experienced a very public disappointment and didn't handle it up to your standards.
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And you've guzzled the "heart on his sleeve" nonsense.

Fans love emotional players.

This guy was black, super emotional and was the most popular athlete on the planet while he was doing it.

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And this guy was black, super emotional and was the most popular athlete on the planet while he was doing it.

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On the flip side, fans typicall hate this type stuff

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Showboating and emotional are not the same thing. Cam comes off as a showboaty bad winner/sore loser and no matter how much you and others want to try say its just a race thing because he's not acting like other white QBs won't make it so.

The Beard said:
He's the guy tea bagging you after every quick scope he gets on you, talking shit in the game lobby as his team wins 5 straight matches against you. Then in match #6 you hit him with a dose of his own medicine, slapping your teabag on his chin as your team goes up by 20 kills, then he rage quits before the match ends.

Who likes that guy?
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Lol, this is perfect example.
 
This is all people arguing over a difference of opinion.

There is a group of people who value in sports one should be respectful, gracious, professional and "sportsmanlike." Hell there are awards for it. You can still like someone to be competitive but if it crosses these boundaries it will lead to dislike.

There is another group of people who value in sports one should be fiery, competitive, emotional and are willing to overlook the negative side of that if this competitiveness causes it (arrogance and immaturity, looking like you are rubbing it in and stomping on your opponents.)
 
AyaisMUsikWhore said:
Wait, to those who are calling cam immature? Have yall personally met him to know the type of person he is? Or is celebrating something that's all of a sudden immature in a sport?
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do you know all the people youve criticized personally? cmon man

i'd probably feel the same and possibly act the same as cam did at that presser. sometimes you just dont wanna deal with that media bs. they say he didn't "act professional" while theyre pushing people out the way for some photos and crammin mics in peoples faces to give shitty questions to bait certain emotions.

to quote some tool in regards to some media folk: "i will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down"
 
LizardKing said:
This is all people arguing over a difference of opinion.

There is a group of people who value in sports one should be respectful, gracious, professional and "sportsmanlike." Hell there are awards for it. You can still like someone to be competitive but if it crosses these boundaries it will lead to dislike.

There is another group of people who value in sports one should be fiery, competitive, emotional and are willing to overlook the negative side of that if this competitiveness causes it (arrogance and immaturity, looking like you are rubbing it in and stomping on your opponents.)
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There's also people who believe (rightfully so I think) that a lot of the dislike for Newton is rooted in white supremacy and a racist preference for black men to be dominated by white men. So there's more than just different understandings of sportsmanship at issue here.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
I'm saying you see what you want to see. You've made your judgement about him already, based on a few moments when he experienced a very public disappointment and didn't handle it up to your standards.
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I saw him constantly doing the moronic Superman routine when his team had no chance of winning. I saw exactly what he wanted me to see.
 
Damn. That article exposed the fuck out of manning.

I never heard of any of those settlements. Just goes to show you how the media will only tell you what they want you to hear.
 
Bad_Boy said:
Damn. That article exposed the fuck out of manning.

I never heard of any of those settlements. Just goes to show you how the media will only tell you what they want you to hear.
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Yeah because Peyton Manning being a gigantic asshole was football's best kept secret until someone unearthed a 6 year old Fox News article this morning.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
I'm not offended at all. I'm not the one trying to put him in his place.
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I'm not offended by his idiocy. I just don't like it. I do love his game though and I love how he involves the kids in the crowd when he can. He needs to stop celebrating like a dope when his team is getting destroyed. But then again, it's always fun when a player does that and then a player on the other team owns them by pointing to the scoreboard.
 
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