Why do people hate Cam Newton?
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Megalosaro
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True story about cam.
Every Sunday this season, my company was shipping him a new pair of beats. We were curious as to why he would get a new pair every week. Beats took it super seriously too.
Every Sunday this season, my company was shipping him a new pair of beats. We were curious as to why he would get a new pair every week. Beats took it super seriously too.
entremet
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Isn't he a sponsored athlete?
Megalosaro
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Yup, butv even so, you would think a few different pairs would suffice
He probably kept dropping them and was too afraid to pick them up
It has nothing to do with obvious displayed racism, it's how our cultural eye focuses on blacks compared to whites, and how that inherently begets different responses.
Again, racism doesn't have to intentional.
Michael F. Assbender
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So basically anyone who hates Newton for being a showboating asshole and a sore loser is racist? What ignorant, myopic horse shit.
I've hated Johnny Manziel since forever for the same reasons. Am I just subconsciously racist against everyone?
you're pretty much in the KKK if you hate a showboating (black) asshole
your manziel hate must just be ... secondary, i dont know
psynergylover
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Cam Newtons words this green bay Packer fan was dangling it at the entrance of the Panthers. as cam said "It's no disrespect to nobody. It's just more of a respect to the stadium. We all know gangs, we all know territories, we all know businesses ... you're not about to sit up here and sell a Whopper at a McDonald's." we could say that this Packer fans was trying to get a rise out of the Panthers players and he did...at the cost of $500
the Second incident was widley overblown because some disgruntle fan wrote a letter to cam for "dis-respecting the 12 man flag" we don't even know if the person Cam took the flag from was even a seahawks fan, for all we know it was left on the ground after seahawks fans left after their team lost and there's no fan admitting his flag was stolen like the green bay packers fan story
these stories are nowhere near cam acting like an asshole to the fans...and two isn't SEVERAL times
PanicFreak
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Cam took a serious gut check yesterday. Instead of having a slice of humble pie, he was force-fed the whole damn pie by that brutal Broncos D.
The silver lining of this whole experience is that Cam will come back next season more focused and hungrier than ever. He will not quit until he wins the Super Bowl.
The thing is that it may be his only shot. If you told people in 1985 that Dan Marino would only ever play in one Super Bowl, they would laugh you out of the room.
GeordieMark
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People hate him because he is good, same reason most successful athletes have their fair share of haters, especially if they also have a bit of arrogance about them.
AstroZombie
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That.Does.Not.Fit.The.Racism.Narrative.
Mad Season
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his reactions and actions at the superbowl should now force this thread to be closed. The guy needs to grow up.
I didn't say everyone, as there are legit college and nfl rivals. But you comparing a girlfriend beating, drug and alcohol abusing, affluent showboating white dude, to a black guy who smiles and dances when he does well in a game, and pouts when he loses. Not calling you a racist, but you might be thinking a bit like one.
Netherscourge
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I don't hate him. I just think he's an immature human being.
ryutaro's mama
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/1...n-carolina-panthers-defends-walking-reporters
So Cam owes being a sore loser (he acknowledges he is one) and people still crush him.
I have no fucking idea what people want from him at this point. Like I said before, at least I know this is who he is, warts and all. I have no interest in a guy that "says all the right things" and is essentially a PR robot.
I gained more respect for Cam for not walking this shit back like most athletes do. Dude basically said, yeah I was salty and it is who I am. Deal with it.
So Cam owes being a sore loser (he acknowledges he is one) and people still crush him.
I have no fucking idea what people want from him at this point. Like I said before, at least I know this is who he is, warts and all. I have no interest in a guy that "says all the right things" and is essentially a PR robot.
I gained more respect for Cam for not walking this shit back like most athletes do. Dude basically said, yeah I was salty and it is who I am. Deal with it.
CurlyHairedMonster
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Impressed you still managed to imply racism, nicely done.
I've hated Manziel since was in college for all the same reasons as the previous poster and we didn't know he was a drug and alcohol abusing, girlfriend beater. Now lets you you imply I'm thinking like a racist.
Locked Out
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That explains the universal love for Brady.
It's too bad they don't make band aids for feelings.
He reveled in upsetting people. It's natural that people would revel in his tears.
ryutaro's mama
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If you watched the video/read the article, you would have seen he isn't asking for one.
But nice try at trying to be funny.
A for effort.
And he said, specifically to those people, he isn't changing. He doesn't give a fuck it would seem. He's owning it all, for good and bad.
Why do you feel the need to exaggerate to make your point? Does it not stand strong on its own? This is not semantics.
I hope to god he doesn't The last two days have been way too much fun.
The band aid would be for his defense force.
People crush him because being a sore loser whether self admitted or not is a fucking terrible look when you continually endlessly clown about when you're winning. It might be who he is, but if you know you're a terrible loser you might just want to think about dialing it back a bit when you're winning because that's something which is far easier to control than the negative emotions which come with losing.
But hey "he's just having fun out there" until he's not. You want to act the clown when you're on top it's hardly surprising people are going to get on you when you become a moody prat when you don't win. I'm not exactly sure why that seems to be a reach for some folk.
I doubt Newton really cares
psynergylover
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please elaborate:
you have one instance of Cam(or another player) taking down an opponents fan banner at the entrance of their stadium where they come out to the field
and another instance were a random Seahawks "12th man" flag was given to Cam and he threw it....
yeah....someone call the cops...
ryutaro's mama
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It's not a defense force. It's common sense. It's pointing out a fact, you would know if you went to that link.
Green Bay is having the "Cam Lost The Super Bowl" Super Bowl victory parade this week along with Seattle it would seem.
Have fun, fellas.
I followed the interview live, thanks for the second hand link though!
It's more a "Cam is who we thought he is" parade. He has admitted it, why can't you?
ryutaro's mama
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But that is who he is. He is likely not gonna dial it back, at all. He is gonna continue dabbing and if he makes it back to the SB and wins, he will rub it in everyone's face. I can at least respect he isn't some phony persona spewing cliches. Would I have handled things that way? Probably not but I'm not Cam.
He never made a contract with me that he would be gracious to the media in defeat. He congratulated the person, imo, he needed to--Peyton Manning. He didn't owe me some contrite reaction to failing to win the Super Bowl.
You think he needs to learn some lesson. He, doesn't seem to give a fuck what you (or any of his critics) think with his remarks today.
Um, have you even read what I posted? I said him being a real human being is refreshing, warts and all. What more need be said?
Cam was a pretty big disappointment both on and off the field on Sunday. I didn't catch a lot of Panthers games this year but it seemed like same old Cam during the Super Bowl.
On the topic: Again, I don't think that many people "hated" Cam before the Super Bowl (seemed like he was almost universally beloved) but he's getting some heat (deservedly so) for not walking the walk during the Super Bowl.
I don't think his post game or subsequent interviews are doing him any favors, either. It's fine if he's unapologetic but doesn't make him look any less childish for doing so.
On the topic: Again, I don't think that many people "hated" Cam before the Super Bowl (seemed like he was almost universally beloved) but he's getting some heat (deservedly so) for not walking the walk during the Super Bowl.
I don't think his post game or subsequent interviews are doing him any favors, either. It's fine if he's unapologetic but doesn't make him look any less childish for doing so.
He celebrates when he's winning. He is upset when he's losing. I don't see the problem. Who cares if he was too upset to feed the media the answers they wanted to hear post-game? It's so silly how people hold it against him for being upset about losing just because he can be "cocky" about winning. The fact that people care so much about that is suspect.
Which is fine, because we can't wait for the 2nd helping of "Cam Newton Hates Losing."
why are you seemingly incapable of understanding what hyperbole is
also, you would be hard-pressed to find more than two people that would call it an exaggeration to have peyton stomp on a fan's flag in a purely hypothetical scenario where his behavior otherwise mirrors newton's
(it is semantics)
Zen_Arcade
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It's really not. That's pretty much a natural reaction and why being a sore loser is seen as a negative trait. Sportsmanship is seen as a pretty important trait. There are even awards for it in (I'm pretty sure) every professional sports league in America. It's why there are penalties in Football for excessive celebration and unsportsmanlike conduct. I don't think we have to sit here and pretend that it's odd that people don't like poor sports.
Like, he admitted himself that he's a sore loser. Which is obviously a pretty negative trait. Yet you're surprised that people call out or dislike him for his negative trait.
Someone else made a perfect analogy earlier about the dude who talks shit in online games when he's winning and then whines and leaves the room as soon as he gets his ass handed to him. It's not even a phenomenon exclusive to sports or pro sports. People generally don't like it when people can dish it out but can't take it.
ryutaro's mama
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So, let's for the sake of argument, that Cam wins a SB.
We you be there to accept that or will you turn your TV off?
What I mean is, are you a good winner (when Cam fails) and sore loser (if he succeeds)?
Zen_Arcade
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I wanted Cam to win the Super Bowl. The Panthers were a much more interesting team than Denver, and Peyton is a boring ass QB, especially at this point in his career.
People can dislike the actions of someone and still appreciate their athletic prowess and abilities.
It was pretty much a win win for me. Either the Panthers won and the actual football story was better, or the Broncos won and I got to see the guy with the cocky personality pout like a baby when he lost. I've seen dozens of cocky players win Championships and I never turned off the TV and pouted when they won.
as funny as it would be i am not suggesting cam newton be detained by police for desecrating the posters and flags of fans
i just dislike him for it
i similarly don't like aaron rodgers, clay matthews, johnny manziel, and numerous other nfl players
i am allowed to do so
If there are any Alabama players on the team, I'll be glad for them and ignore Cam.
Goro Majima
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Wait what?
Green Bay doesn't have a rivalry with the Panthers. It may come across that way because Green Bay fan culture tends to really frown upon poor sportsmanship.
psynergylover
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true, I can't tell you who to like and dislike, but I was referring to the links that you provided the makes Cam look like an "asshole" both of the links you provided were hardly warranted any reaction and not the "several times" you said in your previous post.
again; he or another player tore down a banner from the opposing teams fan over their entrance and he threw a random seahawks "12th man" flag...those are just weak man.... did you even read the links you provided?
I don't really dislike him, although couldn't help but enjoy the beating his team took. His sulking on the sidelines with no attempt to actually communicate with team mates to improve things and stropping at 'late' hits, followed by the not diving on the ball served for an entertaining night whilst we watched two shit offences and a fantastic defence.
(Not to discredit the Broncos, that defence was incredible to watch but the overthrows, penalties, drops on both side of the ball was fucking painful along with the garbage niners turf).
Cam is a cool guy, I don't like him but he has been fun to watch and pretty cool giving the ball to kids when he scores but I can see why people dislike him. I'm not american but I find it hard to believe most of it is because he is black like some suggested but he does take a torrent of racist abuse on social media sadly.
(Not to discredit the Broncos, that defence was incredible to watch but the overthrows, penalties, drops on both side of the ball was fucking painful along with the garbage niners turf).
Cam is a cool guy, I don't like him but he has been fun to watch and pretty cool giving the ball to kids when he scores but I can see why people dislike him. I'm not american but I find it hard to believe most of it is because he is black like some suggested but he does take a torrent of racist abuse on social media sadly.
I understand hyperbole perfectly well. I also understand that an argument that needs to be expressed with hyperbole is a weak one. This is not semantics because we are not having some argument about definitions or whatever. You're trying to argue a point by illustrating a false image. Using an image of Peyton stealing food from starving children would be hyperbole too, so why not use that as well! Who needs to give a true comparison when you can use hyperbole!
He gave respect to Peyton and the Broncos. That analogy doesn't work. You're acting as he has to extend that same respect to the whole world.
Zen_Arcade
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Within the realm of sports, considering the history of the league and his obligations, he pretty much does. He still looks like a sore sport when he can't sit there and deal with the same questions that every Super Bowl losing team has to deal with.
Being a sore loser extends past simply congratulating the other team. I don't even know why you're arguing the point that Cam is a sore loser when he admits it himself.
ryutaro's mama
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Two Words isn't disputing whether or not he is a sore loser. He, like me, is saying he didn't owe us the viewers, anything.
I didn't say anything about whether he is or isn't a sore loser. I'm saying it's strange how people care so much as if they're the ones that won and he won't give them the proper respect for it. He lost and was upset. He's likely upset at himself and especially his teammates for not playing well. If that makes him not in the mood to answer media questions, I don't care and I don't think others should either.
Ol No Bones
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I would like him a lot if he played for my team.
Also, he (for the most part) is a winner and I am a loser. Losers like to watch winners lose. It makes us feel better about ourselves. I thought Carolina would definitely win so I rooted against him cause winners need to lose.
Last time I won in an athletic event was a hoola hoop contest in 5th grade. I also forced the fumble that led to our football team winning the city championship in 6th grade but fucking Raul got all the credit for it cause he's the one that ran it back for a touchdown. Damnit Raul.. The coaches didn't even notice that I stripped the ball. My life has been full of Raul's. I do something great but their is always a fucking Raul there to get the praise. I hate it.
Also, he (for the most part) is a winner and I am a loser. Losers like to watch winners lose. It makes us feel better about ourselves. I thought Carolina would definitely win so I rooted against him cause winners need to lose.
Last time I won in an athletic event was a hoola hoop contest in 5th grade. I also forced the fumble that led to our football team winning the city championship in 6th grade but fucking Raul got all the credit for it cause he's the one that ran it back for a touchdown. Damnit Raul.. The coaches didn't even notice that I stripped the ball. My life has been full of Raul's. I do something great but their is always a fucking Raul there to get the praise. I hate it.
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