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[EverydayBeast]

Of course expectations should be low it's one of the things that makes gaming as a hobby fun.

 

[Guilty_AI]

I mean, what CAN you do aside from not buying nor playing them? You have every right to complain if you bought something faulty, but its not like you don't have the means to avoid such headaches in the future.

Im sorry for this post but im very mad , i need a hug

 

[Mr Reasonable]

I paid fucking money that i earned to play proper games

Which games did you buy, out of interest?

 

[Represent.]

The apologists are the fucking worst.

Like a fucking plague of people who just accept anything some shitty dev throws at them.

COMPLAIN more. They will hear it.

 

[LazyParrot]

if you order a tv and when the tv has a faulty screen and the salesman would say "Just deal with , move on , stop crying , you wanted a working tv ? next time lower ur expectations "

Not sure if that comparison works. It's not the hardware that's broken. PCs and consoles, while expensive, generally work just fine. It's the games that suck, and the guy who sold you your computer can't do anything about that.

 

[SlimeGooGoo]

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[Skifi28]

We don't have to, but it's still highly recommended for health related reasons. Have high expectations at your own risk, you have been warned.

 

[RoboFu]

There's a big problem with over promising and under delivering but it's not all the developers fault.

Games need funding, to get funding you need a salesman with a sales pitch. Even with first party games to get a budget.
That's when problem starts. They sale a crazy dream game with a crazy deadline.
Then you get work scope creep and all that fun stuff. Higher ups wanting to add new marketing bullet points as it goes.
And the budget gets so big that no one wants to say no to anything.

But that's why you have great experienced producers. Nintendo and Sony have great producers. Everyone else seems to lack in that area.

 

[March Climber]

a job must be something that you enjoy doing

There's a giant list of jobs out there that suck and/or are high stress, but they pay well.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I'm not lowering expectations. Below are some of the best games of recent years that dedicated development resources to art direction, story, interesting characters, music, gameplay etc... over photo realistic graphical features that are so costly to development that the rest of the game is a steaming pile of messy poo. Many of the high budget blockbusters feel hollow and forgetful.

 

[ReBurn]

I don't lower my expectations. I also don't buy games day 1. It's not tough to manage.

 

[flying_sq]

Wait at least 6 months to buy a game. It sucks sometimes, but it is what it is

 

[StereoVsn]

I'm not lowering expectations. Below are some of the best games of recent years that dedicated development resources to art direction, story, interesting characters, music, gameplay etc... over photo realistic graphical features that are so costly to development that the rest of the game is a steaming pile of messy poo. Many of the high budget blockbusters feel hollow and forgetful.

Elden Ring ran (and still runs) pretty badly on even beefy PCs with a lot of hitches and stuttering.

Didn't they release RT with no DLSS or even FSR 2.0 options? It's actually a very apt product to include in this thread. A great game marred by terrible performance. Mind you, that got better with patches, but it's still not that great.

 

[MLSabre]

These days I rarely, if ever, buy games Day 1 anymore. Most games nowadays almost certainly will come with a long list of bugs that makes playing them more of a chore than entertaining, which is the point of why we buy them, is it not? Couple with the exorbitant price tag (Canada sucks with that) does a lot to make me be very specific with my purchases.

Think it's about time you raise your standard OP and take the highroad when the product does not meet your standards. It's not worth your time, money, and frustration.

 

[Dr. Wilkinson]

It's 2023. No one should be pre-ordering a game, ever

 

[Ozzie666]

There was a time when PC games were and after thought in terms of console games being ported over. They are more of a thought now but executed badly. It's better than it used to be. Hopefully it improves. They still aren't taking PC development as seriously as they should. Maybe the profits aren't there yet.

 

[ZehDon]

Don't pre-order. Ever.
Wait for fan reviews.
Avoid things that aren't to your quality standards.
Be patient.

Following the above, I've avoided virtually every major catastrophe of the last few years and saved more than a few a dollars. Back in the 80s, the entire video game market crashed because it became saturated with low quality products that eroded customer confidence. The "Nintendo Seal of Quality" is what resuscitated the entire market. We're seeing a flood of low quality games that are clearly not ready for launch but were launched anyway. If you want change, stop buying them.

 

[NickFire]

It's 2023. No one should be pre-ordering a game, ever

Too rigid IMO. If the pub allows an early review date and the reviews are excellent, I'm willing to consider preorder bonuses. That's about it though.

 

[pramod]

Easy. I dont buy nor am i interested in over-hyped, big budget AAA games.

So i havent really been disappointed in the games ive purchased.

 

[Loomy]

Don't lower your expectation. Spend your money on things you believe deserve it.

 

[phant0m]

answer is simple: you don't.
you just have to wait and buy them later, cheaper, and fixed.

i also recommend playing at least the first hour of a game (if not longer) before you come here, reddit, or elsewhere for discussion. no reviews, no OTs, no impressions. it's pretty astounding how much others' opinions can cloud your own before you've even put the disc in.