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Why is it considered transphobic to not want to date somebody who is trans?
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They can, but if they choose the wrong person despite your warnings and then use you as a tool for whining 24/7 while having no intention of listening to you and ending their relationship they can also do something else.
*Random off-topic Rant*
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Amory
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I don't think even most trans people would say it's transphobic to not want to date a trans person. At that point you're blatantly assuming that humans can just pick who they're romantically attracted to, and those who can't are bigots. Idk if that's the hill to die on.
I guess for some trans people, if your #1 objective at all times is to be recognized as your assumed gender by the rest of society, you would have to consider it transphobic for other people to not want to date you for being trans. Otherwise your dating life is restricted to "people who are cool with dating a trans person" rather than "people who want to date you as a man/woman". To not want to date a trans man/woman is to recognize that trans men/women are different from biological men/women. And to some trans people that would be unacceptable.
For me personally I will of course use a trans persons chosen pronouns and I try to treat everyone I meet with the same respect. I have yet to meet a trans person for whom that wasn't sufficient to work with or otherwise interact with.
But at my core, do I see a trans female as fundamentally the same as a biological female, to the point where I'd date or marry either interchangeably? No.
I guess for some trans people, if your #1 objective at all times is to be recognized as your assumed gender by the rest of society, you would have to consider it transphobic for other people to not want to date you for being trans. Otherwise your dating life is restricted to "people who are cool with dating a trans person" rather than "people who want to date you as a man/woman". To not want to date a trans man/woman is to recognize that trans men/women are different from biological men/women. And to some trans people that would be unacceptable.
For me personally I will of course use a trans persons chosen pronouns and I try to treat everyone I meet with the same respect. I have yet to meet a trans person for whom that wasn't sufficient to work with or otherwise interact with.
But at my core, do I see a trans female as fundamentally the same as a biological female, to the point where I'd date or marry either interchangeably? No.
Ailynn
Faith - Hope - Love
Not that I had any choice, but I'm transgender...or what was originally called transsexual. My condition is a birth defect brought on by prenatal exposure to Diethylstilbestrol. I suppose I'm what some people now call "trans-medicalist", because I subscribe to the idea that being transgender usually involves gender dysphoria. It sure did for me, at least before I underwent hormone replacement therapy and surgery.
That said...is it "transphobic" if someone doesn't want to date me? Should I be angry if someone isn't attracted to me strictly because I'm trans?
No way!
It's ridiculous to think so. No one has the right to attraction from anyone. Really, it just screams embarrassingly narcissistic entitlement to think otherwise.
That said...is it "transphobic" if someone doesn't want to date me? Should I be angry if someone isn't attracted to me strictly because I'm trans?
No way!
It's ridiculous to think so. No one has the right to attraction from anyone. Really, it just screams embarrassingly narcissistic entitlement to think otherwise.
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CAB_Life
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This is currently a huge issue in the LGBT community—especially when it comes to lesbians (you tell a gay man he needs to get used to “mangina” and the result is a nigh universal fuck off). It’s predominantly centred around delusions and narcissism and the presumption that everyone else sees you as your gender (or should, by social compulsion) and therefor should be attracted to you as if you were said gender. Even though in real life attraction doesn‘t work that way, and a person who’s considered ”beautiful” to one, can be repugnant to another. Then we add the echo chamber of social media in the mix and we’re left with a volatile and destructive scenario where blue-haired bearded “transbians” are trying to bully gay women for sex or aggressively colonizing their spaces.
I should note that there are genuine gender dysphoric people (trans) and they should most certainly be treated with care, respect and understanding. But there’s a huge swath of autogynopheliacs that are mingled in with the movement, too, and they’re ruining it for everyone involved.
I should note that there are genuine gender dysphoric people (trans) and they should most certainly be treated with care, respect and understanding. But there’s a huge swath of autogynopheliacs that are mingled in with the movement, too, and they’re ruining it for everyone involved.
captainraincoat
Banned
It’s called being an idiot
Just because someone has a different view on something does not make them a nazi/transphobic ect....part of what makes people great is they have different life experiences and the ones that cast the stones usually don’t have this.
a certain purple forum is full of these idiots
Just because someone has a different view on something does not make them a nazi/transphobic ect....part of what makes people great is they have different life experiences and the ones that cast the stones usually don’t have this.
a certain purple forum is full of these idiots
Dacon
Banned
No, there's definitely idiots who just parrot this shit without thinking about what they're saying because people have convinced them it's the right thing to do.
To be honest this is only really a problem for people who either over-share personal stuff or people who define themselves by their sexuality and talk about it all the time.
I mean, how and where and when is this question coming up and why isn't the answer "my sex life, gender identity and preferences are none of your fucking business"?
Would you date a trans person?
"Depends on the person. It's none of your business actually."
The whole thing is like a form of "cancel baiting" or ban baiting or something.
You find a person who is very very openly a lesbian and never shuts the hell up about it and you openly bait them into saying that they don't want cock. Then you berate them for transphobia.
If people kept that kind of shit quiet then there would never be an issue.
I am too old for this shit and also married for years so it doesn't affect me.
If I ever found myself in that situation though I'd just be ready with really really personal insults if I ever had to reject a transwoman.
"He agreed to go on a date with me but when he found out I was trans he went cold."
No bitch. I liked you but your shitty sense of humour and fucking boring personality put me off. Also maybe consider mints.
Easy.
I never understand how people find themselves wrapped up in these dramas. Just keep your orientation to yourself mostly and tell people that shit is none of their business.
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Foamy
Unconfirmed Member
Every women who doesn't want to fuck me is a lesbian.
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ruvikx
Banned
Calling them "idiots" is too kind, i.e. it suggests there's no real harmful intent, just idiocy.
Based on the past decade of radical leftist cancel culture & their constant attacks on normalcy, I'd say they're pretty freaking deliberate in their intent to cause harm.
DigitalScars
Member
I'm probably going to sound like a right dick here but they are not real women.
Don't get me wrong if going through thr change makes them happy and makes them feel comfortable in their own skin more power to them and I'd be respectful but they are not real woman. They cannot give me children.
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Dacon
Banned
I'm not talking about leftists or radicals dude. I'm talking about normal people who have been duped into thinking this nonsense is moral.
ruvikx
Banned
Those so-called "normal people" you mention just happen to be... leftists or radicals. Both generally go hand in hand, i.e. transgender activism (certainly when it's about the topic of guilt-forcing heterosexuals to date transgenders) is an SJW thing.
I don't believe there's a single real "normal person" in the world who'd be okay with this.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Not one of those fucking idiots would date a trans person, either.
Schrödinger's cat
Banned
Of course, we're already skipping over the first fallacy present in the OP's question (not accusing OP here) which is the use of the term "phobic" and "phobia" when projecting a judgement onto others.
Per dictionary definition:
"A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation."
Of course 'trans' is not the only word that 'phobic' and 'phobia' get attached to in this way, but the dishonest framing is the same. People employing such terms to justify their own positions whilst dismissing the positions of others are corrupting language for sensationalism - and allowing it to become weaponised.
Ironically, it's such people that are creating the issue due to intolerance of others - yet they rely on their projection of intolerance to bluster their targets and their critics into acquiescence.
Hence the term "crybully".
Per dictionary definition:
"A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation."
Of course 'trans' is not the only word that 'phobic' and 'phobia' get attached to in this way, but the dishonest framing is the same. People employing such terms to justify their own positions whilst dismissing the positions of others are corrupting language for sensationalism - and allowing it to become weaponised.
Ironically, it's such people that are creating the issue due to intolerance of others - yet they rely on their projection of intolerance to bluster their targets and their critics into acquiescence.
Hence the term "crybully".
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Real, normal people don't think this way. Internet people are often not real, and almost never normal. Stick to the former.
Mohonky
Member
I suppose a counter to that point is; not all women with female reproductive organs can give you a child, does that mean they aren't real woman?
I'm not judging (either with my previous post or this one), just pointing it out.
Personally, I couldnt date someone who was transgender. There is still an something within me that does not find it something I can be attracted to, but then theres plenty of women who Im not attracted to either.
quickwhips
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Because your racist! #cancelhim sex is sex why do you care how hideous the thing sucking on your wang is?
and 3 others
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GreyHorace
Member
Welp. Now you've done it. They're gonna demand Robocop be banned because of that meme.
Super Mario
Banned
There are two worlds:
- The SJW internet of fake issues
- The real world
Aside from a few crazies, no one in the real world is mad at you for not wanting to date a trans person.
- The SJW internet of fake issues
- The real world
Aside from a few crazies, no one in the real world is mad at you for not wanting to date a trans person.
GeorgPrime
Banned
If someone calls it "Transphobic" because your personal taste differs from theirs, thats the moment you ignore that person and tell that person to fuck off. xD
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belmarduk
Member
Asking questions about transgenders is transphobic. That will be a six month ban, sir.
KiNeMz
Banned
Heeeeeelllpppp0 meeeeeeeeee
Cockles & Whelks
Banned
JK has your back.
Although I'm really hoping she gets revenge on Radcliffe when they come to make the Harry Potter sequels and has Harry turning up as a Trans woman.
if you think about it, after mouthing off, he can't really turn it down now.
Although I'm really hoping she gets revenge on Radcliffe when they come to make the Harry Potter sequels and has Harry turning up as a Trans woman.
if you think about it, after mouthing off, he can't really turn it down now.
Fbh
Member
It isn't. It's just the usual SJW/Woke trend of getting more and more extreme in what they call "...phobic" .... "...ist".
15 years ago a racist was someone who was antagonistic towards specific people based on their race.
But in 2020, you are apparently also a racist if you expect people to be on time.
It's the same with transphobic. It has gone from an actual hatred of trans people to just being anyone who says they wouldn'd date a trans person, or anyone who suggest a trans woman isn't 100% identical to a biological woman.
They've expanded and overused these terms so much that they have made them loose any meaning or gravity.
15 years ago a racist was someone who was antagonistic towards specific people based on their race.
But in 2020, you are apparently also a racist if you expect people to be on time.
It's the same with transphobic. It has gone from an actual hatred of trans people to just being anyone who says they wouldn'd date a trans person, or anyone who suggest a trans woman isn't 100% identical to a biological woman.
They've expanded and overused these terms so much that they have made them loose any meaning or gravity.
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Johnny Silver
Banned
Does a transwoman have the "baby maker"? People marry because they want the satisfaction of creating a family and someone that will outlive them, they want heritage.
Does a transwoman have the x chromossome at the end?
Does a transwoman have the body type of a real woman, no matter how many medical interventions he goes through?
If no, then it's not a wonder that they don't have the same value as a real woman.
Goro Majima
Kitty Genovese Member
People who shame others for that also don’t have the best interests of trans individuals at heart.
Everyone, including trans people, deserve to be loved wholly and unconditionally in a relationship and not because you’re being made to feel that way to appease a particular movement or score feel good points.
GamingKaiju
Member
No absolutely not.
Coming at this from a hetro stand point, if you are dating a girl then you testing the waters for compatibility, sexual attraction, mutual understanding and a potential future that could include children is it Transphobic to want any future children that share you and your partners dna, no I don't think it is transphobic.
Coming at this from a hetro stand point, if you are dating a girl then you testing the waters for compatibility, sexual attraction, mutual understanding and a potential future that could include children is it Transphobic to want any future children that share you and your partners dna, no I don't think it is transphobic.
Richard Packer
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Stiflers Mom
Banned
Who is that?
Looks like a weeb.
Komatsu
Member
The vast, overwhelming majority of LGBT people won’t shame you for your dating preferences, whatever these may be. Those who think otherwise either have never met a trans person in their entire lives or are spending too much time on tumblr.
There are crazies, of course, but that is the case with every single community under the sun, from birdwatchers to the Amish.
There are crazies, of course, but that is the case with every single community under the sun, from birdwatchers to the Amish.
Richard Packer
Member
The brigadier general of VirginGaf.
The Bloody-Nine
Member
Micro aggressions are so problematic.
KiNeMz
Banned
Stop taking all the assistance medication and where do you lay naturally? Only a rare amount of people will fall in a place where they dont know. Also a rare amount will fall in an area where they think it does not fit. But what is worrying these days is people thinking that the slight sense of attention to the opposite sex is somewhat an indication that they are trans and are living in the wrong sexed body.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Don't listen to internet trannies who are constantly in hysterics about every imagined slight and "microaggression." No one picks who they're attracted to. If you don't want to fuck trannies, don't fuck trannies. If some tranny tries to force you to fuck them, we have a word for that. It's called rape, and it's a crime.
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Deleted member 17706
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It's just intolerance from people who think they can force others to indulge their fantasies.
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