why is PVC so casually produced while everyone talks about how cancerous it is?

triplestation

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all this common shit is made with pvc

but you google pvc and everyone is talking shit about it

wtf
 
You probably have to ingest it in order for it to be cancerous or some stupid shit like that. Otherwise it'd make no sense since it's literally all around us.
 
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RoboFu said:
The Asbestos that is bad is insulation that is made of fibers that can get in the air. It is also not plastic but a naturally occurring mineral.
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You miss my point, we put it in everything not that long ago, because it was seen as a wonder substance, now we can do fuck all about it, we just have to leave it a lot of the time
 
It's not PVC but the phthalates used to soften it that are dangerous if you decide to make it part of your daily diet.
 
convenience <--- ⚖️ ---> future world's problems

Wouldn't wanna be part of the future's world.
In the end, earth wins. Whatever species is dominant then, earth does not care.

Sometimes I wonder if every civilization in space encounters (and succumbs to) these same problems.
 
Literally anything could do damage if not handled correctly, but eating that stuff stays in your stomach longer (kids, pets etc.) it's a great time to create stuff.
 
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You got any source ?.

Is it toxic to just touch or do you actually need to Ingest it ?
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i don't know

first time here reading that it has to be ingested to be bad

but nowhere else mentions it

i love the smell of shoes

and gasoline
 
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I have PVC's. They were detected in an EKG. I was very surprised to hear that I have them. Before I started taking 25mg of Metoprolol daily, I had 27,000 extra in 24 hours. With the med I have 16-17,000 extra in 24 hours. The cardiologist is still mildly concerned but pleased to see the decrease. He would rather see the numbers decreased to 10,000 in 24 hours. I was told that I may need further treatment from a electrophysiologist - medication or an ablation. Of course, my first reaction is to treat this naturally to avoid the alternative. I have heard that a gluten-free diet may help. I have also heard that Yoga or Tai Chi may prove beneficial. So, these are most likely my next steps. We'll see what happens.
 
INCUBASE said:
asbestos was no different til recently
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Asbestos thing is mostly scarefakenews based on lung disease not actually on cancer rates which were mostly horseshit science. And to get lung disease you need to work with asbestos without mask but you can get this way any lung disease working with almost any mineral.

Stupid mold in your kitchen has more chance to kill you by contracting sepsis than asbestos ever could and i am yet to see anyone cleaning their kitchens to metal every day.

For sure though a lot of people earned pretty penny by either removing asbestos or replacing it with something else.
 
Virtually everything manufactured is based on:

- Organics (shit that can be grown and eaten or used for clothes)
- Petroleum (energy and leads to making plastic)
- Plastic
- Metal
- Wood
- Concrete/stone/ceramic

You get rid of plastic and half the stuff in your house from shelves, video game console, packaging and food containers would need to be shifted to another source material.
 
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They don't even ban cigarettes yet. Just go look at a smokers house. Walls caked in yellow goop and their lungs filled with black tar.

Cigarettes and obesity are bigger things to worry about for now.
 
StreetsofBeige said:
Virtually everything manufactured is based on:

- Organics (shit that can be grown and eaten or used for clothes)
- Petroleum (energy and leads to making plastic)
- Plastic
- Metal
- Wood
- Concrete/stone/ceramic

You get rid of plastic and half the stuff in your house from shelves, video game console, packaging and food containers would need to be shifted to another source material.
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Yep, and lets not forget how many lives plastics have saved. The current medical industry and medical device industry would completely collapse without plastics. So many of our tools, procedures, devices and lifesaving measures rely on their unique properties.
 
Is it really that shocking?

We live in a world where cigarettes are legal and food with cancerous chemicals are fed to the masses.
 
INCUBASE said:
You miss my point, we put it in everything not that long ago, because it was seen as a wonder substance, now we can do fuck all about it, we just have to leave it a lot of the time
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The reason we have to leave it a lot of the time because asbestos is actually fairly safe in it's intended applications, The people who were(and are, Asbestos is still being used today in certain applications where it remains the best material) at risk to asbestos were the workers who installed it every day of their lives.

If you don't break it up and make it airborne, basically 0 risk, if you have rare and sporadic contact with it, the risk is small.

If you worked with it every day in an era before the risk was fully understood without proper PPE, the risk is high.

Similar with PVC, as with almost every substance. The dose makes the poison, and the realistic dose in most cases for the common applications of PVC is 0, unless you eat sewer pipe and electrical insulation or burn it and inhale the smoke.
 
iamblades said:
The reason we have to leave it a lot of the time because asbestos is actually fairly safe in it's intended applications, The people who were(and are, Asbestos is still being used today in certain applications where it remains the best material) at risk to asbestos were the workers who installed it every day of their lives.

If you don't break it up and make it airborne, basically 0 risk, if you have rare and sporadic contact with it, the risk is small.

If you worked with it every day in an era before the risk was fully understood without proper PPE, the risk is high.

Similar with PVC, as with almost every substance. The dose makes the poison, and the realistic dose in most cases for the common applications of PVC is 0, unless you eat sewer pipe and electrical insulation or burn it and inhale the smoke.
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Just contributing to the discussion.

www.reuters.com

J&J knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder

Johnson & Johnson says its Baby Powder is safe. But Reuters found its talc was sometimes tainted with asbestos, a fact it kept from regulators and the public.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

www.nytimes.com

Johnson & Johnson to End Talc-Based Baby Powder Sales in North America (Published 2020)

The company has faced thousands of lawsuits from cancer patients who claim that its talc was contaminated with asbestos, a known carcinogen, and that the company knew of the risks.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

www.forbes.com

Johnson & Johnson To Pay $100 Million In Baby Powder Settlement

Last year, the company recalled 33,000 bottles of baby powder after trace amounts of asbestos were found.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com

Never blindly trust a company/the industry even when they 100% guarantee the safety of something they sell. They used to sell blankets made with this stuff. The fiber that came out of it enters your lungs, making scars and causing fibrosis and cancer.
 
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