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Why Is Suicide So Stigmatized?

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Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
So I have what I guess they call suicidal ideation.

I never understood why suicide is considered such a stigma? Now, I can understand if you have a family you need to take care of and in that way I can see it as kind of selfish so I'll agree with that.

But if you're just a lone person and you want to kill yourself, I don't see what the problem is? Especially if you feel or if you know most people don't want you around or find you a burden.

What is the big deal of taking one's own life? I really think some people should just call it quits if there's nothing else they have in life. There's people in poverty, with no friends, no family and nobody to care for them. So why can you living on if that's the case? Why do people think this is so selfish?
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I’m generally in favor of euthanasia. I would prefer to choose when I depart and to do it pain free. I think it makes sense to have a waiting period to minimize momentary or impulsive decisions.
Hello there.

I'm not sure what the difference is. Both qualifies as suicide but maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
 

DKehoe

Gold Member
It's a complex question. If you're suffering from an incurable condition, like terminal cancer, that makes life unbearably painful, then I believe there is a case for euthanasia. However, if the source of your suffering is treatable—whether it's a medical condition or a social issue like poverty—there is still potential for your life to improve, and ending it prematurely would be tragic.
 
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Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
See, the truth is I really despise myself. I hate myself more than probably other people hate me.

Do I want to call it quits? The truth is I really don't because I'm too scared to. I don't know what comes after this life so it frightens me. So the chances of me offing myself are slim but fuck damn I really do hate living.

It's a real conundrum. I really just don't know what to do. I live life everyday and in constant depression.

And before anybody asks, yes I am receiving psychiatric help. I'm on antidepressants and anti-anxiety and seeing a therapist. None of this is doing me any good.

I end up spending the holidays alone because nobody gives a shit. Nobody fucking cares. They know I feel like shit but they just blow it off. You can tell they just don't care. So why should I?
 

Quasicat

Member
I see it from both sides…and I think it really depends on why they do it. I had a friend in high school that randomly started having a ton of migraines…and he was absolutely miserable. After a couple of years, he took his life and nobody really blamed him for it. Even when I spoke to his dad, he was sad that it happened, but there was no anger towards him. A former student of mine took her life in college and it was because of the mounting debt she was starting with loans and credit cards. She was afraid her parents would find out and took her own life.

Now one could not be avoided and one could. I think the stigmatization of suicide is based on the reasons, as illustrated above. I wish my former student had reached out to someone asking for advice as her situation was manageable, but my friend from high school had tried and could not find a solution.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
See, the truth is I really despise myself. I hate myself more than probably other people hate me.

Do I want to call it quits? The truth is I really don't because I'm too scared to. I don't know what comes after this life so it frightens me. So the chances of me offing myself are slim but fuck damn I really do hate living.

It's a real conundrum. I really just don't know what to do. I live life everyday and in constant depression.

And before anybody asks, yes I am receiving psychiatric help. I'm on antidepressants and anti-anxiety and seeing a therapist. None of this is doing me any good.

I end up spending the holidays alone because nobody gives a shit. Nobody fucking cares. They know I feel like shit but they just blow it off. You can tell they just don't care. So why should I?
I guarantee you people here care, including me. I can't offer psychiatric help because I'm not qualified to do so, but what I can say is if you're feeling down and want to chat you can always DM me and just because it may feel like people out there don't care, I guarantee there are people out there who do and/or will. You just have to find those people. There is a lot to live for and life can turn on a dime. Happiness is never too far around the corner, I've seen people in really bad situations and in a really bad place completely turn things around who are so happy. Hang in there.
 

Hugare

Member
To quote Tyrion Lannister:

"Death is so final, but life is full of possibilities"
Exactly

See, the truth is I really despise myself. I hate myself more than probably other people hate me.

Do I want to call it quits? The truth is I really don't because I'm too scared to. I don't know what comes after this life so it frightens me. So the chances of me offing myself are slim but fuck damn I really do hate living.

It's a real conundrum. I really just don't know what to do. I live life everyday and in constant depression.

And before anybody asks, yes I am receiving psychiatric help. I'm on antidepressants and anti-anxiety and seeing a therapist. None of this is doing me any good.

I end up spending the holidays alone because nobody gives a shit. Nobody fucking cares. They know I feel like shit but they just blow it off. You can tell they just don't care. So why should I?
No matter how shit your life is, there's always, always chance of better days.

Depression is a disease, so if it's curable, keep fighting it. It's not like terminal cancer where all hope is lost. If therapy isn't working, try a new therapist. Meds arent working, get new ones.

Dont waste a bunch of good days that you would end up living by terminating yourself before experiencing them
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
Also I think I can offer this advice even though I'm not a therapist:

Ask yourself what would make you happy. Whether it's new friends, a romantic relationship, a certain type of career, starting a new hobby or activity, traveling to a specific place, etc. Whatever that is. And dedicate your energy toward pursuing that. The pursuit of what you desire in itself makes life worth living. It's one of the great things about life. Working toward a goal. Seeing it on the horizon and the hunger to achieve it. Knowing most things are in fact possible.
 

NecrosaroIII

Ultimate DQ Fan
You dont belong to yourself, OP. There are people that need and love you, even if you think there isnt.

You have to live for them
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
You dont belong to yourself, OP. There are people that need and love you, even if you think there isnt.

You have to live for them
Live for who? Who do I have to live for? Nobody gives a fuck about me so what's the point. I'm not saying I'm going to kill myself. But I mean what's the point? What's the point for other people I should say?
 

wigsplittin4fun

Neo Member
The fact that complete strangers are telling you that they care are would be willing to talk to you anytime ( myself included) should show you that people care. If a complete stranger cares even if a little bit ; how do you think the people around you must feel? Btw I was diagnosed with spinal cancer 2 years ago and was in so much pain I wanted to die. I begged god to kill me every night. I got in chemo, had spinal surgery; had to re learn to walk again but now I’m doing better than I was before I had cancer. What I’m saying is things never stay the same. It may be great now for some but they will face hardship and it may be hard for some but things will 100% get better and the cycle will continue. I hope things get better for you. Just keep fighting until they do.
 

rm082e

Member
So I have what I guess they call suicidal ideation.

I never understood why suicide is considered such a stigma? Now, I can understand if you have a family you need to take care of and in that way I can see it as kind of selfish so I'll agree with that.

But if you're just a lone person and you want to kill yourself, I don't see what the problem is? Especially if you feel or if you know most people don't want you around or find you a burden.

What is the big deal of taking one's own life? I really think some people should just call it quits if there's nothing else they have in life. There's people in poverty, with no friends, no family and nobody to care for them. So why can you living on if that's the case? Why do people think this is so selfish?

At least from what I've seen, it's the people who have family - particularly kids who really leave people angry and upset. I lost two people to suicide in 2023. One was a co-worker who had two younger kids. My memory of him now is just a ball of frustration and resentment for what he did to his wife and kids. I've dealt with some minor depression before, so I understand he was very far down a spiral and probably couldn't have brought himself to ask for help. But it's something I can't forgive. He had the most important job to do and he bailed.

The other was a guy I went to school with. He never married, never had kids, lived alone and had no ties. I felt bad for his parents and sister, but I don't have the same feelings of resentment towards him that I do with my co-worker. I wish everyone the best, but in his case, I guess I understand it more.
 

T8SC

Member
(insert text here)

Because he wont read, listen or change. In 3 months we'll have another one of these.
 

Nydius

Gold Member
I don’t mean to sound uncaring because suicide is a sensitive topic but as soon as I saw the thread I knew who the author was before finishing the title. This is the third fourth Darkmakaimura pity post in the last four or five days and is a regular occurrence around here every so many months.

If you genuinely have suicidal ideations, no one here is going to be able to help. That is something you need to seek immediate medical help for. The forums aren’t a substitute for therapy.

People here have repeatedly told you over the course of the last several months that you need professional help, yet all you do is make excuses, claim you’re “getting help”, disappear into other threads for a bit, then come back here and post more attention seeking drama threads. All this does is make people not believe you, at best, or begin to resent you, at worst.

As to your question, suicide is stigmatized because life is a gift. I’ll leave out my religious leanings because even if you don’t believe in God, I think everyone can agree that living is a gift. Death is final and suicide is often a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Being that it’s still the holiday season, I suggest you watch the unedited version of It’s a Wonderful Life if you truly believe your life has had no impact on others. But do that after you go to the hospital because if you’re having genuine suicidal thoughts, that’s where you need to be right now.
 
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ShadowNate

Member
Please check for and make use of any helplines for help with suicidal thoughts immediately.

And also seek proper professional help.

The forums, even with the best of intentions, will not be able to help you.
 

KyoZz

Tag, you're it.
See, the truth is I really despise myself. I hate myself more than probably other people hate me.

Do I want to call it quits? The truth is I really don't because I'm too scared to. I don't know what comes after this life so it frightens me. So the chances of me offing myself are slim but fuck damn I really do hate living.

It's a real conundrum. I really just don't know what to do. I live life everyday and in constant depression.

And before anybody asks, yes I am receiving psychiatric help. I'm on antidepressants and anti-anxiety and seeing a therapist. None of this is doing me any good.

I end up spending the holidays alone because nobody gives a shit. Nobody fucking cares. They know I feel like shit but they just blow it off. You can tell they just don't care. So why should I?
Live for who? Who do I have to live for? Nobody gives a fuck about me so what's the point. I'm not saying I'm going to kill myself. But I mean what's the point? What's the point for other people I should say?
You need to stop living for other and start to live for yourself. Life can be hard, but know that you are not alone. As other have said, you can DM me if you want to talk.
Or even better, create a group chat with a few members. While it wont replace the help of professional know that I can hear everything without judgment, and sometimes having someone to talk is just what you need.

Stay strong!
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Step 1 - Get rid of the tranny, they don’t care about you.

Step 2 - Get a job, you’ll meet new people this way and start being useful in society.
A job works wonders.

Make money, stop leaching off taxpayers, and also keeps a person busy so they dont drink, do drugs or stalk their trans roommate at home all day.

By the time I go back to work end of next week, I'll be off for almost 3 weeks. And I'm already bored. I even did a bit of random WFH at lunch so it doesnt pile up more when I'm back. For people who sit around all day not working for years, what the hell do they do all day?
 

The Cockatrice

I'm retarded?
Im really worried about OP and his threads. You should seek some help or at the very least go to a gym, make some gym bro friends and youll have something to latch on if games aint doing it for you anymore. Hell, not just gym, any similar sports activity.
 

FunkMiller

Member
So I have what I guess they call suicidal ideation.

I never understood why suicide is considered such a stigma? Now, I can understand if you have a family you need to take care of and in that way I can see it as kind of selfish so I'll agree with that.

But if you're just a lone person and you want to kill yourself, I don't see what the problem is? Especially if you feel or if you know most people don't want you around or find you a burden.

What is the big deal of taking one's own life? I really think some people should just call it quits if there's nothing else they have in life. There's people in poverty, with no friends, no family and nobody to care for them. So why can you living on if that's the case? Why do people think this is so selfish?

You need professional help. Not a bunch of bozos on a video games forum.

Call this line:

https://988lifeline.org/

998 Toll Free

The people that have to deal with suicides will thank you for seeking proper help before you contemplate anything else.
 
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RagnarokIV

Battlebus imprisoning me \m/ >.< \m/
“Death would be a release next to this travesty.”

You did not survive the gay bender ladysoyboy, Darkmakaimura. I have only spared you from total dissolution.

“I would choose oblivion over this existence”

The choice is not yours.

The birth of a trans abomination traps the essence of life. It is this soul that haunts the corpse you ‘simp’ in. And that, Darkmakaimura, is the demise of you. There is no balance. The gender of the trans remain trapped. I can not spin they/them in the wheel of fate. They/them can not complete their destinies.

Redeem yourself. Or if you prefer, avenge yourself. Settle your dispute with ladysoyboy poofter. Destroy Him/her. Free their souls and let the wheel of fate churn again. Use your hatred to reave their souls... I can make it possible.
Become my soul reaver, my angel of death…
 
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Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
You need professional help. Not a bunch of bozos on a video games forum.

Call this line:

https://988lifeline.org/

998 Toll Free

The people that have to deal with suicides will thank you for seeking proper help before you contemplate anything else.
Back in october, I did call 988. I actually called them twice because I was having a nervous breakdown because somebody hacked into my bank account twice and as a result I lost it.

People here seem to think I'm not pursuing mental health. I've been seeing a psychiatrist for 2 years. Actually two psychiatrists because the first one I didn't like. And I'm talking to a therapist on a weekly basis.
 
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FunkMiller

Member
Back in october, I did call 988. I actually called them twice because I was having a nervous breakdown because somebody hacked into my bank account twice and as a result I lost it.

And what was the advice they offered?

There is also: 1 (800) 273-TALK. You could try that.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
And what was the advice they offered?

There is also: 1 (800) 273-TALK. You could try that.
They were extremely nice, I'll give them that. In the long run it didn't help. I'm actually waiting on a case giver/manager but there's a waiting list for that. Supposedly they're going to help me out with additional things like resources.
 
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FunkMiller

Member
They were extremely nice, I'll give them that. In the long run it didn't help. I'm actually waiting on a case giver/manager but there's a waiting list for that. Supposedly they're going to help me out with additional things like resources.

Okay. That's good. Sounds like you are getting some help. If you want an argument against suicide it's that it's always selfish, no matter who does it. Because people are always affected by it. Those that have to deal with the aftermath especially. If you want to do right by others, maintain the help you are getting.
 

Darkmakaimura

Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Okay. That's good. Sounds like you are getting some help. If you want an argument against suicide it's that it's always selfish, no matter who does it. Because people are always affected by it. Those that have to deal with the aftermath especially. If you want to do right by others, maintain the help you are getting.
I can almost assure you I'm not, I repeat I am not, going to commit suicide. I'm actually too afraid to.

I think it was a line in Star Trek the Next Generation, where Beverly Crusher said about somebody that they are too afraid to live but too afraid to die. That's pretty much me.

Edit: it was that episode where they thawed out people from the 20th or 21st century.
 
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ÆMNE22A!C

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
Okay. That's good. Sounds like you are getting some help. If you want an argument against suicide it's that it's always selfish, no matter who does it. Because people are always affected by it. Those that have to deal with the aftermath especially. If you want to do right by others, maintain the help you are getting.

Seems you don't have any first hand experience at all. Selfish eh?
 

ÆMNE22A!C

NO PAIN TRANCE CONTINUE
4 decades of extreme demons and suggesting a call will solve anything and if not you're selfish ffs

My sweet summer child.
 
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Azelover

Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Don't do it. It doesn't get better from here, trust me. Especially if you do that.

Just keep on living and trying. Hard times don't last forever unless you let it.
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
I heard this song today:

Googled it and saw a video. Not understanding how some kids want to end it because they’re not straight is crazy. Even at the end of the video it shows life moving on, but as a kid you don’t see it moving on.

You may think this way now, but what about family members? What about a niece or nephew who wants to end it now just because they got bullied or they’re gay? That’s why I am against unaliving yourself. It’s not going to make things better for the people around you and there’s no coming back from it. You just aren’t holding onto a better future for yourself or you can’t see one.
 
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