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Why is this forum gradually turning into SA?
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sonarrat said:
"So do I."
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Nah, this place will just turn into a relationship & medical advice forum first. :lol
I, too, have pushed for the Awfulization of the forums. Not so much that I want to directly emulate it, but its one of the most popular forums on ther internet and, comparitvely, manages its herd pretty well. If GAF could reach the same popularity-to-idiocy ration, it'd be nice. They have a sort of "tempered freedom" going on there that I'd like to see here, though. People are allowed to do stupid shit for the sake of doing stupid shit, but the ones who are REALLY retarded usually get banned or justly chastized within the community.
FrenchMovieTheme
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the H is O. you know what i'm talking about ladies
if this forum was truely like SA 99% of you (the people posting in this thread maybe even me) would be banned.
SA has some good things going for it, their gaming community is much more interested in actual gaming than we are, but who cares! Gaming age isnt about gaming, its about fanboy wars. GAF is like perpetual recess.
And thats why i love you guys
SA has some good things going for it, their gaming community is much more interested in actual gaming than we are, but who cares! Gaming age isnt about gaming, its about fanboy wars. GAF is like perpetual recess.
And thats why i love you guys
Mike Works
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I think it's the exact opposite. The OT forum may harbor some people with opinions you don't agree with, hornyness factors or of 14 year olds, and stupid threads asking stupid questions about average real life situations, sure.Mrbob said:
But at least they don't fucking argue about videogame company's profit margins in an act of "pride".
I still love videogames. I enjoy fucking around with 15 other people online in Halo 2, I enjoy relaxing Sunday morning and going fishing in Animal Crossing, and I crave the rush of smashing a rival car into an oncoming pillar in Burnout 3.
But good God, I used to be one of those idiots who cared about the sales of Nintendo's games. I used to be one of those guys who prepared himself to either put on a brave slant or a smarmy face when clicking on daily japanese sales threads.
And then I just gradually realized how fucking stupid and pathetic people like that are. I can understand having a vested interest in it if you're involved in the industry, ie a programmer, or even something like a videogame magazine or website editor. And even if you're not in the industry, and you just love videogames as a hobby like me, I can understand curiously checking up on that sort of thing.
But getting into arguments over it in order to defend your company, or even worse, attack another one? It's just so fucking stupid.
This is why I tend to stay away from the Gaming Forum more often than not, because if I regularly read those 5 page threads, I'd end up banning a lot more than sales discussion.
As for the whole SA thing, even though my quote was not taken out of context by Hitokage, I'd like to reiterate that I do not want to turn this place into SA. But since I have power on this forum and none at SA, there are certain aspects of GAF that I think could be improved if they mirrored SA. I feel the same way about SA in relation to GAF. I don't want to turn this place into SA though, because there'd be no fucking point. I'd much prefer to have 2 different boards that I thoroughly enjoy than 2 identical ones.
I'd argue that post with hundred and hundreds of users over the sex of Seraftifa (However you spell his/her name) trumps anything done on the Gaming Forum. I read like 15 posts and gave up. The actual caring over the topic at hand was one of the craziest things I've ever read. The whole GAF- WE know drama, I mean, come the fuck on. But whatever floats the OT boat. I mainly stick to sports related threads on OT for a reason. I digress for now because any more argument over the topic isn't worth it as it'll probably result in my banning with a bunch of OT lemmings with nothing contructive to add to the topic at hand going, "OMG LOOOLLL HAHA THAT IS SO FUNNY." I'm really not trying to start any type of fight. There just seems to be an aura of superiority from many (NOT ALL) OT users that gets really annoying. If I'm trying to paint a picture that the Gaming Forum is in any way superior, I don't mean that. I'm just trying to mention that the two forums really aren't that far apart. You can get some good news info in the Gaming Forum as well.
Sales threads do get crazy. But I equate it in a way to liking a sports team. You got sports radio, sports websites, callers always calling in and users always posting on these websites like they are armchair CEOs. Videogames really aren't that different in that aspect. Except in the case of videogames you actually have a vested investment in the hardware you buy. I agree it can get overboard at times though.
Sales threads do get crazy. But I equate it in a way to liking a sports team. You got sports radio, sports websites, callers always calling in and users always posting on these websites like they are armchair CEOs. Videogames really aren't that different in that aspect. Except in the case of videogames you actually have a vested investment in the hardware you buy. I agree it can get overboard at times though.
Mike Works
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I highly disagree. Someone who's repeatedly demeaned real people/guys on this forum with her posts turns out to be a big fat liar all this time? It's entertaining. Resident Evil 4 doesn't sell as well as some Square Enix franchise during the span of 24 hours in Japan? I guess you could find that entertaining. But I don't.Mrbob said:
There are still aspects of gaming and threads in the Gaming forum that are filled with drama that I find entertaining. The whole EA/Take Two stuff for instance. I don't find arguing/discussing that sort of this stupid or nerdy at all. It's very interesting from a business and sports fan's viewpoint. Then there was the whole Megaton stuff.
No one considers what happened with Serafitia to be high brow discussion or entertainment. It's just basically the equivolent of finding out that one of your buddies from your group of friends wears panties. You're gonna fucking rag on him when you find out. But when you go out to a bar later that night, and the NASDAQ bar is scrolling at the bottom of CNN, are you going to get into a heated argument over the stock market price battle between Nickel and Copper? Fuck no. The OT is a place that can give you a lot of things. Advice in tons of different areas for one. But the entertainment factor is ever prevailant, JUST LIKE the Gaming Forum. Some people just find stuff like a prominent, sharp tongued poster being outed as a fraud more entertaining that a press conference in Paris being a let down.
See, now that's bullshit, because the Gaming Forum strives on just as much, if not MORE drama than the OT forum.
As opposed to what, generalizing? Yeah, that's extremely constructive.
Yeah, I can't wait to call into that videogame radio channel to give my opinion on Ubi Soft's performance. I feel the Canadian government really came through in the stretch! PLAYOFFS BABY, E3 IN MAY!
Is it so difficult, in both forums, to avoid the stupid topics? My problem is that many begin relatively intelligently and then a few posters turn them into mind-numbing shit (primarily in the Gaming Forum).
Actually, the members here are more reasonable when talking about almost anything besides videogames, and they're often better versed.drohne said:
Because you're extremely one-dimensional. At least, that's what I've found.Mrbob said:
Not to mention that the "We know drama" tag isn't a source of pride, but HUMILITY. It's a mockery of the fact that there's drama in OT at all.Mike Works said:
Mr. Bob, I generally like you and find you to be an agreeable poster. But you're dead wrong about the relative worth of the gaming and OT forums.
Sure, lately there have been some stupid(by ot standards, even) threads in the ol' OT. I blame Matlock, and you should too! But probably 9 out of 10 threads in the gaming forum is useless. And of the posters that do most of their posting the gaming forum, probably 1 in 15 is worth anything(thanks whoever tagged Jonnyram!). Reading the gaming forum makes me hate videogames and the people who allegedly play them. I don't know how some of the more level headed(or even hot headed) mods don't totally flip out and just ban the entire gaming forum. Browsing it is like trying to find a lump of gold in an ocean of shit.
Edit: Also, to Federman: you really don't have room to talk after your whole "modship" drama debacle.
Sure, lately there have been some stupid(by ot standards, even) threads in the ol' OT. I blame Matlock, and you should too! But probably 9 out of 10 threads in the gaming forum is useless. And of the posters that do most of their posting the gaming forum, probably 1 in 15 is worth anything(thanks whoever tagged Jonnyram!). Reading the gaming forum makes me hate videogames and the people who allegedly play them. I don't know how some of the more level headed(or even hot headed) mods don't totally flip out and just ban the entire gaming forum. Browsing it is like trying to find a lump of gold in an ocean of shit.
Edit: Also, to Federman: you really don't have room to talk after your whole "modship" drama debacle.
Mike Works
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One of Raoul's sentences really struck me, suddenly allowing me to concisely summarize the reasoning for my preference.
Reading the Gaming Forum makes me hate videogames too. Reading the Off Topic Forum makes me laugh.
Of course there are variable for both statements. 'Official' threads for big games like Resident Evil 4, Halo 2, Pikmin 2, etc are usually great, as they talk about the game and why the game is fun. And then the big announcement threads are usually worth reading just because of the big announcement. And there stupid threads in the OT, which falls under the Matlock doctorine...
But yeah, that really does sum it up quite nicely.
This is one of SA's areas that I had considered for GAF implemention, but decided against even bothering raising the issue with the other admins. While having a dollar amount put on accounts would make MY job here a lot easier, it would hurt the forum. We have inbetween 3 and 4 thousand users here. Which is a lot, but I'd say less than 2 thousand of them actually post. Maybe less than 1? With a staff of 15 people, we can control that. SA has something ridiculous like 30k, so they need that fear of losing money looming over everyone's head to keep them in check. If GA really grew in userbase a lot, I'd reconsider it, but for now, no.
Reading the Gaming Forum makes me hate videogames too. Reading the Off Topic Forum makes me laugh.
Of course there are variable for both statements. 'Official' threads for big games like Resident Evil 4, Halo 2, Pikmin 2, etc are usually great, as they talk about the game and why the game is fun. And then the big announcement threads are usually worth reading just because of the big announcement. And there stupid threads in the OT, which falls under the Matlock doctorine...
But yeah, that really does sum it up quite nicely.
No no no no no, you'd really be surprised how much charging $10 USD per account changes the way people post. I post MUCH differently on SA than I do here because I don't enjoy wasting my money, and I consider getting banned from an internet forum for arguing with someone I've never met and thus losing 15 bucks in the process to fall under the waste of money category.belgurdo said:
This is one of SA's areas that I had considered for GAF implemention, but decided against even bothering raising the issue with the other admins. While having a dollar amount put on accounts would make MY job here a lot easier, it would hurt the forum. We have inbetween 3 and 4 thousand users here. Which is a lot, but I'd say less than 2 thousand of them actually post. Maybe less than 1? With a staff of 15 people, we can control that. SA has something ridiculous like 30k, so they need that fear of losing money looming over everyone's head to keep them in check. If GA really grew in userbase a lot, I'd reconsider it, but for now, no.
actually the whole tradition of lamenting the forum's stupidity is deeply irritating. and is generally undertaken by stupid people. and is adopted by new members with greater and greater alacrity; people are "sick of gaf" practically as soon as they've started posting. if you're going to complain about how lame the forum is, your posts should be demonstrably better than the lameness they occur in. so obviously i'm not qualified.
gaf's entertainment value is probably inseparable from its stupidity anyway.
gaf's entertainment value is probably inseparable from its stupidity anyway.
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