I bet Die Hard could beat BulletstormWhimsical Phil said:Perhaps a better question would be, "Why isn't Jaws eating the boat?"
Or maybe, "Why isn't Die Hard jumping through the window?"
I bet Die Hard could beat BulletstormWhimsical Phil said:Perhaps a better question would be, "Why isn't Jaws eating the boat?"
Or maybe, "Why isn't Die Hard jumping through the window?"
Not sure if you got the memo or not but the poor suffered plenty under Reagan. He helped play his part in breaking union backs as well.Chichikov said:I wonder where the moral outrage is.
People talk in graphs and economic theories, but this country used to have a moral fiber, people used to talk about what's right, not only what's profitable.
So how the fuck do Wall Street and banks blow up the world's economy and it's the poor and working class who pay the price?
Even Reagan put financial crooks in jail.
The largest transfer of wealth from working and middle class to the top 10% took place while all this is happening. You see how the rich got richer yet middle and working class pay have not kept up with the cost of living since the 70s? Well, thats how they are paying the price. Not to mention we bailed them out with our tax dollars and in turn they get million dollar bonuses. This country has a real problem in terms of income inequality, education and economic factors. People need to wake up and smell the effing coffee, we are at war.Ulairi said:And how are the poor and the middle class paying the price?
bounchfx said:it feels like:
steal/lose billions of dollars = slap on the wrist
6 days late for rent payment = you're fucked
And we're done here. Seriously, anyone that thinks this is a Capitalistic Democracy is delusional. Plutocracy is here, they just haven't figured out how to get rid of our right to vote.... YET. And when they do, along with the financial crisis happening, I would simply ask the rich to look at France in 1789. "Let them eat cake." Eat a bullet.Spire said:Rich people don't go to jail in a plutocracy silly.
Assumptions are like a-holes...DennisK4 said:Because America loves rich people.
And every american thinks that one day he will be one of those rich people. And when he is one of those rich people he doesn't want to have to worry about going to prison.
Buckethead said:Assumptions are like a-holes...
DennisK4 said:Because America loves rich people.
And every american thinks that one day he will be one of those rich people. And when he is one of those rich people he doesn't want to have to worry about going to prison.
timetokill said:We are fast approaching the breaking point. The economy is in shambles, and there is nothing that can legally be done to resolve the issue. The President will not help us. Congress will not help us. As the article says, the government is the corporation is the government. By increasing the power of government, we have only increased the power of the wealthy.
There is literally nothing that can be changed until we come to a revolution. I'm talking French Revolution kind of stuff. Everything has been corrupted to the point where the only answer will soon be a violent uprising.
Let me quote the thread title for you: "Why Isn't Wall Street in Jail?"FStop7 said:This is silly and ignores the involvement of non-Americans in the financial absurdity of the past several years.
Who in Iceland, Ireland, or Greece has gone to jail?
Really? I mean... really? How are your public schools, public hospitals, infrastructure, and purchasing power going?Ulairi said:And how are the poor and the middle class paying the price?
timetokill said:We are fast approaching the breaking point. The economy is in shambles, and there is nothing that can legally be done to resolve the issue. The President will not help us. Congress will not help us. As the article says, the government is the corporation is the government. By increasing the power of government, we have only increased the power of the wealthy.
There is literally nothing that can be changed until we come to a revolution. I'm talking French Revolution kind of stuff. Everything has been corrupted to the point where the only answer will soon be a violent uprising.
Gene Sharp is the world's foremost expert on non-violent revolution. His work has been translated into more than 30 languages, his books slipped across borders and hidden from secret policemen all over the world.
For decades now, people living under authoritarian regimes have made a pilgrimage to Gene Sharp for advice. His writing has helped millions of people around the world achieve their freedom without violence. "As soon as you choose to fight with violence you're choosing to fight against your opponents best weapons and you have to be smarter than that," he insists.
ggnoobIGN said:I don't think any of that is illegal. Just extremely risky and stupid.
Equus Bellator Apex said:It's not like they were selling drugs.
teh_pwn said:This really needs to be emphasized to people if we're ever going to fix this country. McCain vs Obama was purely political theater. The actual policies would only have differed slightly with civil rights, not at all with foreign policy and financial policy. The country is broken.
Ulairi said:Maybe, because it's really hard to prosecute and get a conviction? State and Federal attorneys would love to have b-roll of some guy from wall street doing the perp walk. Must. Be. Conspiracy.
Flying_Phoenix said:People don't want to leave their comfort zone. Most people are too preoccupied with their iPhone, jacking off to Maxim, or watching "The Bad Girls Club" to give a crap.
Soleil rouge said:Well said.
Media and popular culture are designed, IMO, to keep your attention away from more important affairs, while not being too obvious. It could be that the 40 hour work week and US work culture in general is also meant to keep people much too preoccupied with their jobs to get into politics of this nature.
Soleil rouge said:Well said.
Media and popular culture are designed, IMO, to keep your attention away from more important affairs, while not being too obvious. It could be that the 40 hour work week and US work culture in general is also meant to keep people much too preoccupied with their jobs to get into politics of this nature.
For the most part they were the scammees, not the scammers.FStop7 said:Who in Iceland, Ireland, or Greece has gone to jail?
One way or another it will.afternoon delight said:The problem will not be fixed in our lifetimes, and I doubt people will ever figure it out. It's a shame too.
We coulda been a contender! But instead, we're relegated to these times.
Flying_Phoenix said:The problem with this is that nobody fucking cares. People don't want to leave their comfort zone. Most people are too preoccupied with their iPhone, jacking off to Maxim, or watching "The Bad Girls Club" to give a crap. And those that do, well there isn't really a movement or group strong enough to make people think there is a realistic way to do these things.So the government, businessmen, and the super-wealthy will continue to push society just enough to the point that the people will be obedient. But really it's just a matter of time before these people push to far. History has shown this is how government, social justice, and well humanity in general evolves.
That was the one on Magnetar (the company) right? My econ professor played it for us. It's worth one's time to listen to that one.andycapps said:This American Life had a great podcast on the Subprime loan fiasco some months back. Great podcast, one of their best, IMO.
ahoyhoy said:We won't question this shit until we can't update our Facebooks and Twitters on our cheap iPhone's while eating a $5 Big Fuckkin' Taco Bell box.
It's Brave New World shit. We're so happy with the crap they give us we don't notice how they're controlling our every action.
bu bu bu bu bu but we must look forward, not backward.XMonkey said:It's disgusting. Even worse is how Obama thinks it's alright to turn a blind eye.
TheUsual said:That was the one on Magnetar (the company) right? My econ professor played it for us. It's worth one's time to listen to that one.
polyh3dron said:bu bu bu bu bu but we must look forward, not backward.
ClosingADoor said:It really is amazing how one can go to sleep knowing they have fucked over millions of people and ruined tons of lives.
loltimetokill said:There is literally nothing that can be changed until we come to a revolution. I'm talking French Revolution kind of stuff. Everything has been corrupted to the point where the only answer will soon be a violent uprising.
Upwards, not forwards... and always twirling, twirling, TWIRLING TO FREEDOM!polyh3dron said:bu bu bu bu bu but we must look forward, not backward.
Doubt that will happen. Corruption is rampant. Officials are too worried about their political future and aspirations. And the public is complacent.Hari Seldon said:I think the States need to start exercising some power. Most states are going bankrupt and they cannot print money. It is time to exercise some constitutional power and ram some amendments down the throat of the feds: I would like to see as a minimum an ammendment for 1. term limits and 2. forcing congress to recluse themselves on votes where they own a financial stake (stock)
Also on my wish list is a nationally elected corruption official that enforces corruption standards on congress.
The states can do this without the feds having a say if they have the balls.
the reasonable thing to do would be to riot in the streets and murder all rich people and government officialsheliosRAzi said:Doubt that will happen. Corruption is rampant. Officials are too worried about their political future and aspirations. And the public is complacent.
Cyan said:For the most part they were the scammees, not the scammers.