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miyuru

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Ok, so me and my gf broke up this year for school, since she goes to school on the other side of the country. So yeah, we're broken up, but a little while ago on MSN she told me she sat "beside this hot australian guy". And then tonight in an email, she tells me how someone in another house apparently thinks she's hot, and then she further clarified how she's not going out with one of her better friends in Toronto, but I never really suspected, I mean just friends, I have friends too.

Just, GOD (Napoleon Dynamite reference :D), why is she telling me this stuff? It's annoying. It feels like she's rubbing it in my face or some shit.
 

miyuru

Member
lol...

I guess it's not a big deal, like technically we're broken up so I shouldn't care, but it's only been like 2 weeks, and we were going out for 1.5 years, so I'm over her, but obviously not completely. Just, I don't understand WHY she's telling me these things. Maybe it makes her feel better about herself, like whatever, why can't she be sensitive enough to realise who she's telling?
 

hXc_thugg

Member
Really though, man, you should just tell her about all the fun and exciting things that are happening to you. If none of that is occuring, tell her about a really cool fantasy life and pretend like it's all really true.
 

miyuru

Member
Ill Saint: It's so obvious, but I don't know how to phrase it properly so she doesn't get too upset...you'd think she'd get the idea after I told her how I was upset when she told me about that Australian guy.

hXc_thugg: I don't want to fight back like that, I don't want to retaliate at all, I just want to play it cool, so things don't get out of hand.

GIRLS ARE SO STUPID
 

Datawhore

on the 15th floor
She's not trying to rub it in your face. She's trying to make the transition from intimacy to "being friends" and she's testing out the water with these provocative claims.

If you don't freak out, then she'll think you're cool with her dating other guys, and just being friends.

If you do freak out, she'll realize that you don't want her to see other people and she'll probably get upset with you, call you childish, insecure, etc.

Either way, you're probably fucked.
 

fart

Savant
tell her how much you've been enjoying anonymous and promiscuous sex with men! yah, eat that biznitch!
 

miyuru

Member
Datawhore said:
She's not trying to rub it in your face. She's trying to make the transition from intimacy to "being friends" and she's testing out the water with these provocative claims.

If you don't freak out, then she'll think you're cool with her dating other guys, and just being friends.

If you do freak out, she'll realize that you don't want her to see other people and she'll probably get upset with you, call you childish, insecure, etc.

Either way, you're probably fucked.

Godammit. I wish she was just selective about what she'd say, if she ends up with someone else in the future, that's cool, WHATEVER, I just want to get out of this relationship already, I feel like it'll never end, even though it already ended arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

And she ended her email with a "kiss on the cheek". WHY does she torture me!
 

miyuru

Member
norinrad21 said:
She's trying to tell you to let it go, someone else is filling her, maybe you should move on too

I asked her if that's what she was trying to say when she told me about the Aussie, but she said it wasn't, and she said she felt bad after saying that.

fart said:
tell her how much you've been enjoying anonymous and promiscuous sex with men! yah, eat that biznitch!

Sometimes I think being gay would be ultimate comeback :lol
 

Ill Saint

Member
miyuru said:
Ill Saint: It's so obvious, but I don't know how to phrase it properly so she doesn't get too upset...you'd think she'd get the idea after I told her how I was upset when she told me about that Australian guy.

I dunno man, personally speaking, I've just got to the point where I won't let girls toy with my emotions. I don't see why anyone needs to deal with that. Either ignore it or just tell her nicely that you're happy she's moved on but to keep the details to herself.
 

Datawhore

on the 15th floor
miyuru said:
And she ended her email with a "kiss on the cheek". WHY does she torture me!

Sounds like she's going to string you along and use you as a crutch for when her new relationships aren't working out.

Had a fight with the new boyfriend? I know, I'll just call miyuru to feel better about myself and fuck with his emotions.
 

miyuru

Member
Ill Saint said:
I dunno man, personally speaking, I've just got to the point where I won't let girls toy with my emotions. I don't see why anyone needs to deal with that. Either ignore it or just tell her nicely that you're happy she's moved on but to keep the details to herself.

And you guys know what the worst part is? And I swear, this applies to most if not all girls:

You tell them what they're doing, and they're too ignorant to step back and realise what they're doing! It's because they think they're just being themselves or whatever, but really, subconsciously, they're being pricks. But of course, their train of thought doesn't travel that far into their brains.

Anger management = GAF.

Datawhore said:
Sounds like she's going to string you along and use you as a crutch for when her new relationships aren't working out.

Had a fight with the new boyfriend? I know, I'll just call miyuru to feel better about myself and fuck with his emotions.

God I hope not. I doubt it, I really do, but yeah like I said, subconsciously!!!
 
ConfusingJazz said:
next time she ims you, say a girl just came in, and you have to go to insert preferred sexual reference here
Even better turn MSN off/offline etc. When she then asks why you are never online you boast of your new found freedom.
 

nitewulf

Member
girls are pretty stupid with things like that. i never got why they play these mind games either. make up your own stories, be creative.
 

Ill Saint

Member
miyuru said:
And you guys know what the worst part is? And I swear, this applies to most if not all girls:

You tell them what they're doing, and they're too ignorant to step back and realise what they're doing! It's because they think they're just being themselves or whatever, but really, subconsciously, they're being pricks. But of course, their train of thought doesn't travel that far into their brains.

Anger management = GAF.



God I hope not. I doubt it, I really do, but yeah like I said, subconsciously!!!

They're well aware, but they do it anyway. I just can't put up with crap like that from girls anymore. If they start the headfuckery and then play the innocent game, I just drop all contact. Life's too short.
 

miyuru

Member
Fresh Prince said:
Even better turn MSN off/offline etc. When she then asks why you are never online you boast of your new found freedom.

Haha, I'm usually not home anyway, always out, though when I come home, I actually *do* want to talk to her. She's really cool, I like talking to her, so that's why I don't really want to let things get out of hand out of something small like this (it's small right?). But the downside then is that I can't tell her she's being a moron.

:-\

I'm losing this battle :lol

Ill Saint said:
They're well aware, but they do it anyway. I just can't put up with crap like that from girls anymore. If they start the headfuckery and then play the innocent game, I just drop all contact. Life's too short.

This reminds me of this girl I know. My friend was about to down some beers with his buddy, and the girl (who's against drinking) was saying "NO! DON'T DRINK IT!!" and my friend ended up not drinking that night (they're good friends :-\). Anyway the next day my friend and the girl were going to work out and then he gets a call on his cell from the girl - "Hey, I can't make it, I'm going drinking".

OMGWTF (johntv where are you!!!)
 
I asked her if that's what she was trying to say when she told me about the Aussie, but she said it wasn't, and she said she felt bad after saying that.

Which says it all, she feels bad, because she knows she's been doing something and enjoying it too, she only sort of feels guilty because she knows how much you'd be hurt by it knowing she's been letting some guy in behind your back. Anyway eventually she'd say FU and continue to fuck the aussie.

Better move on dude, waiting to find out what she's really up to would hurt you in the end and we could end up with another 7page thread on here when that happens.
 

Datawhore

on the 15th floor
It's not subconscious - they know exactly what they're doing! And they're much better at it than we are.

If it persists, tell her to quit the games or just cut her off, cold turkey style.

I've never been able to remain close friends with an ex-girlfriend afterwards, unless we had previously been good friends. It's just too messed up. Cold turkey is the best solution.
 

miyuru

Member
Datawhore said:
It's not subconscious - they know exactly what they're doing! And they're much better at it than we are.

If it persists, tell her to quit the games or just cut her off, cold turkey style.

I've never been able to remain close friends with an ex-girlfriend afterwards, unless we had previously been good friends. It's just too messed up. Cold turkey is the best solution.

norinrad21 said:
Better move on dude, waiting to find out what she's really up to would hurt you in the end and we could end up with another 7page thread on here when that happens.

I think I'm at fault then somewhat, since I've been holding back on meeting girls and stuff, because I know it'd upset her (sorta like how she's bragging more or less about her life). I've been holding back so she'd be cool. So it's like, I make a sacrifice, and she takes the alternate route and just hurts me back.

Not cool. And guys aren't bad at mindgames, we're simply too mature to play them.
 

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
As my friends would say, she is trying to "ACT COOL!." Tell her to shut up and be done with the woman. Tell her your name isn't Milton Bradley, so you don't feel like playing games. Then snap your fingers 3.5 times.
 

LakeEarth

Member
Error Macro said:
Cut off all forms of communication with her. It's best in the long run. Oh, and the short run too.

Exactly, women do this ALL the time. Tell her to not talk about that kind of things. If she complains, block her. If she does it again, block her.
 
one of my ex-gf's used to do that. i blocked her in april. haven't talked to her since.. well, actually i saw her once, and she said, "i haven't seen you online in awhile?"

"yeah, i get on late. u must not be on."

stupid, dumb bitch.
 

Mama Smurf

My penis is still intact.
Girls love their mind games. I once really liked a girl and she really liked me, but both of us were complete idiots and had no idea how the other one felt. Eventually we dated (it was shit), but for years she kept telling me about these guys she'd meet who she liked and stuff. Apparently there were no guys she was trying to make me jealous. Yeah, I was jealous...I was jealous because clearly she liked these guys and not me.

Honestly, this idea of telling you there's guys who like you and you like as an incentive to make you admit you like them as beyind me.

As for your thing, she probably just wants to tell you these sort of things before you get the chance to tell her. An ex of mine used to tell me things right after we broke up like, "I made out with 5 guys tonight" ...yey? Why would she tell me that, she broke up with me, it's not like she needed to prove she moved on. Oh and she was like 19 at the time, it was like the pathetic boasts you might make when you're 14.
 

mrmyth

Member
Sorry guys, but the broad isn't doing anything wrong this time.

Simply put, if you and an Ex agree to be friends after the breakup, the girl is going to take that at face value. They expect to be friends. We expect to maintain contact until such time as when we can
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Hit it again.

She's acting like you are any other friend. That's what she expects from you now.
 

Dilbert

Member
miyuru said:
Ok, so me and my gf broke up this year for school, since she goes to school on the other side of the country. So yeah, we're broken up, but a little while ago on MSN she told me she sat "beside this hot australian guy". And then tonight in an email, she tells me how someone in another house apparently thinks she's hot, and then she further clarified how she's not going out with one of her better friends in Toronto, but I never really suspected, I mean just friends, I have friends too.

Just, GOD (Napoleon Dynamite reference :D), why is she telling me this stuff? It's annoying. It feels like she's rubbing it in my face or some shit.
A couple of things. First, you are BROKEN UP. If she wants to date every guy in her dorm, it's her right. If memory serves, you made a post about the breakup decision earlier this year, and my advice then is the same as my advice now: Move on.

Although she could be playing mind games with you just for the sake of playing mind games, I suspect that something else is going on:

1) She is looking for information. She mentions guys...and expects you to talk about girls you've been hanging out with or dating.

2) She is using the code word "friend" to tell you that she's already dating other people, thereby encouraging you to do the same. In my younger and more interesting days, "friend" was almost always code for something else...girls speak that language too.

3) She is testing the bounds of your friendship. It's hard to reassert boundaries when you were previously much closer. In a way, she might WANT you to be obviously upset or annoyed at something she says so she understands what she can/cannot talk about with you in your new role as "friend."

In reality, it's probably a mix of all three. I strongly encourage you to move on, meet new girls, and get your date on. There really is no such thing as "breaking up for school" with an expectation of getting back together seriously in the future...although you may manage to score some reunion sex this summer if you can navigate the "friend maze."

Good luck...
 

miyuru

Member
:lol I didn't know it was that popular

Anyway I guess I'll ask her right now why she even bothers telling me that kinda stuff. Even with my usual friends...I don't need to hear that kinda stuff, like I just don't care, why tell me? So it's the same for her.

If she keeps blabbing, I suppose I'll take some decisive action.
 

Wellington

BAAAALLLINNN'
miyuru said:
Ok, so me and my gf broke up this year for school, since she goes to school on the other side of the country. So yeah, we're broken up, but a little while ago on MSN she told me she sat "beside this hot australian guy". And then tonight in an email, she tells me how someone in another house apparently thinks she's hot, and then she further clarified how she's not going out with one of her better friends in Toronto, but I never really suspected, I mean just friends, I have friends too.

Just, GOD (Napoleon Dynamite reference :D), why is she telling me this stuff? It's annoying. It feels like she's rubbing it in my face or some shit.


I read about a quarter of the topic and stopped, 'cause it made no sense. Here is the deal:

She is hurt, she wants to see how much she meant to you and maybe in the process hurt you a bit, she airs her dirty laundry. That's it.

I've been there, done that. Take her off MSN, she's all the way across the country, stop trying to be her friend. Think of it this way.... 4 million chicks on manhattan island alone!
 

Dujour

Banned
Tell her I said you're hot. Two can play at that. Goodness, what an insecure moron. She's just trying to crush you from a distance. Call me Belle.
 

J2 Cool

Member
Eh, i know you think there's no good to be found in this but there is. 1.5 years is a long time and 2 weeks after a 6 month relationship I was still upset. The thing is stuff doesn't stay the same. Things change. It's not something to frown upon. There's about a billion elements to your life and each one is constantly changing. Everything while it happens feels like it will never end. A wait for a driver's license, dating some girl, being lonely. But eventually it does. The day comes for what you've waited, your relationship dissappears, you find someone new. It could be depressing to think sometimes but I realize it's for the better.

I think about my ex now and the empty feeling she used to fill but somehow I still smile because I realize this will eventually end and I'll even look back on now and smile at the simplicity. You keep fond memories of the past but realize that this moment today is just as important because it's going to go away. You should know that the jealousy and burning you get from hearing this will be replaced by something new. You don't even need to question if it will ever come, it's inevitable. It's a feeling, not a description and comparison to what you had. I thought for the longest time that this one girl will never be topped and if it is or isnt doesnt really matter. Things are just different and realizing that your life is going to change everyday for the better in some aspects make it easy to swallow the last thing.

Something like a girl really blinds you the greatness of everyday's little things because you hold on so strong when like i said its inevitable. Though then again you keep that in mind and who knows, you stumble upon something that will never leave you. Take relationships for the good they are and they can never upset you. Go into new ones open minded and looking to just smile everday. Stuff like this passes.

Oh, and yeah, girls are bitches. :) Let's see the things my ex told me after we broke up. Well, we broke up and became friends with benefits bad that was the stupidest thing I could do. She'd constantly tell me about hot guys. Said one guy in gym class is one of the top 5 hottest guys she'd ever seen in person. Then she even got real interested in this one guy, all the time making out with me often, but wanting to get with him. She'd tell me "oh, i dont want a relationship, I just want him". She cried about him not being interested to me. Finally I'm the one who had her make the first move with him. I told her to write a note and what to write. Ended up he had a gf he loved very much.

Then there was me getting upset about her showing like 5-6 guys her tits at a party. From the top view she pulled her bra down and showed the nips to whoever wanted to see em. I wasn't even there and don't hang out with her friends. She even let a guy she just met that night to cup a feel cause he looked cute. It made me feel gross being that the girl i thought I loved was this. She says its her body and was though she doesnt say it she's trying to be wild and exciting while I was disgusted. Just felt she was worth more than that and the things I did for her to become what we were ammounted up to more than cheap fun. I thought it was more than that but the fondness of the fun and memories we had i realized are the most important thing. The sexual stuff was just an element to my life then.

But to continue with details she goes back to doing stuff with me but never committing again. Then supposedly she starts kissing this other guy she told me about about while she still had been making out with me. Never got more sexual than making out as she was torn. Eventually he started doing the same thing to her. Making out with multiple girls and her also. She got pissed and she gives up on him. Thing was while she halted sexual stuff with me, he fingered her and when I asked that night what happened she lied. All came out though after she got pissed at him. That made me feel better. Funny thing is I helped her say "I love you" again for the first time since when we dated, because she was scared to say it again but really did love this new guy she's been with 3 months now. So through all that I rest real easy with everything. She wasn't meant for more than what she was those 6 months and Im fine with that. It's the details and the mess they make that kills you. Gotta ignore that because its just not important. I had fun the time we were together and that is important and the fact that I could laugh the things she does now compared to when I was too involved
 
She's trying to rape your brains from the inside out.

Actually, what the hell else would you talk about?

Advice: Avoid/Ignore completely for a few weeks/months/whatever. Then if you do talk to her again it'd be as a friend and not someone still latched on and paranoid about how she uses syntax and what that could possibly mean. It's worked for me.
 

miyuru

Member
I just talked to her, and I feel much better. No mindgames or anything, I just told her straight up how I felt, and she started feeling really shitty about it, and then I started feeling bad, and now I'm good, and she still feels shitty.

I feel sort of guilty right *now*, but when I look back she should've thought a little more about what she was telling me I think. I don't know, whatever, things are good now.
 

Dujour

Banned
Don't feel guilty, not one bit. I used to know someone like that, and trust me, she wasn't oblivious to your feelings before you told her.
 

miyuru

Member
I hear that. I'm trying to...most people say I'm too nice of a person. I don't mean to brag or anything. It's just, it sounds so pompous for me to say "yes I was right and she was wrong". At least to my ears...I just needed a vent session...but I suppose you're right Sera, but it's ok now.

J2: Thanks for the awesome post. I agree with you totally, your philosophy sounds a lot like mine - things change, and you'll move on. While something may be pressing at the moment, once it's over, it's over, and you'll move on with your life. Those who are successful will be able to step back and see the true reality of every situation, it's true importance, it's implications on the rest of your life. Most things are just trivial, and I'm cool with most things. But relationships are different, because at the time, they're everything to you. You don't know how much effect they'll have over the rest of your life - will you marry this girl, or end up with someone else? You don't know, so it's hard to say that really, you'll look back on it in the future and laugh, because someday you'll meet a girl you'll live the rest of your life with, or perhaps you've already met her - you just, don't, know.

And sometimes, I feel like, after this long, I could spend the rest of my life with this girl. Other times, when I'm focussing on her "faults" (in my eyes), I don't think I could at all. and that I should just move on. So breaking up now will show me how much she really does mean to me, and right now, she means a lot ot me.
 

Leon

Junior Member
Any girl who doesn't realize the awkwardness of "HEY EX-BF OF 1.5 YEARS THAT STILL CARES FOR ME I MET THIS HOT AUSSIE YESTERDAY!" herself should be desperately avoided. Or given a fresher pair of diapers.

Analogy : My ex-gf of 1.5 years simply told me she might hook up with some guy 2 weeks after we broke up. She gave me the space and time to get over it (still didn't happen) because she realized the consequences of what she was saying. If she hadn't and started rambling on about the details, I would have told her to stop. But she was considering my feelings throughout, and did it very gently. You have no reason to feel bad. If a girl doesn't think, you make her think, especially when it affects you in that way. Don't beat yourself up.
 

miyuru

Member
Leon said:
You have no reason to feel bad. If a girl doesn't think, you make her think, especially when it affects you in that way. Don't beat yourself up.

Thanks man, I really needed to hear that.
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
J2 Cool said:
Eh, i know you think there's no good to be found in this but there is. 1.5 years is a long time and 2 weeks after a 6 month relationship I was still upset. The thing is stuff doesn't stay the same. Things change. It's not something to frown upon. There's about a billion elements to your life and each one is constantly changing. Everything while it happens feels like it will never end. A wait for a driver's license, dating some girl, being lonely. But eventually it does. The day comes for what you've waited, your relationship dissappears, you find someone new. It could be depressing to think sometimes but I realize it's for the better.

I think about my ex now and the empty feeling she used to fill but somehow I still smile because I realize this will eventually end and I'll even look back on now and smile at the simplicity. You keep fond memories of the past but realize that this moment today is just as important because it's going to go away. You should know that the jealousy and burning you get from hearing this will be replaced by something new. You don't even need to question if it will ever come, it's inevitable. It's a feeling, not a description and comparison to what you had. I thought for the longest time that this one girl will never be topped and if it is or isnt doesnt really matter. Things are just different and realizing that your life is going to change everyday for the better in some aspects make it easy to swallow the last thing.

Something like a girl really blinds you the greatness of everyday's little things because you hold on so strong when like i said its inevitable. Though then again you keep that in mind and who knows, you stumble upon something that will never leave you. Take relationships for the good they are and they can never upset you. Go into new ones open minded and looking to just smile everday. Stuff like this passes.

Oh, and yeah, girls are bitches. :) Let's see the things my ex told me after we broke up. Well, we broke up and became friends with benefits bad that was the stupidest thing I could do. She'd constantly tell me about hot guys. Said one guy in gym class is one of the top 5 hottest guys she'd ever seen in person. Then she even got real interested in this one guy, all the time making out with me often, but wanting to get with him. She'd tell me "oh, i dont want a relationship, I just want him". She cried about him not being interested to me. Finally I'm the one who had her make the first move with him. I told her to write a note and what to write. Ended up he had a gf he loved very much.

Then there was me getting upset about her showing like 5-6 guys her tits at a party. From the top view she pulled her bra down and showed the nips to whoever wanted to see em. I wasn't even there and don't hang out with her friends. She even let a guy she just met that night to cup a feel cause he looked cute. It made me feel gross being that the girl i thought I loved was this. She says its her body and was though she doesnt say it she's trying to be wild and exciting while I was disgusted. Just felt she was worth more than that and the things I did for her to become what we were ammounted up to more than cheap fun. I thought it was more than that but the fondness of the fun and memories we had i realized are the most important thing. The sexual stuff was just an element to my life then.

But to continue with details she goes back to doing stuff with me but never committing again. Then supposedly she starts kissing this other guy she told me about about while she still had been making out with me. Never got more sexual than making out as she was torn. Eventually he started doing the same thing to her. Making out with multiple girls and her also. She got pissed and she gives up on him. Thing was while she halted sexual stuff with me, he fingered her and when I asked that night what happened she lied. All came out though after she got pissed at him. That made me feel better. Funny thing is I helped her say "I love you" again for the first time since when we dated, because she was scared to say it again but really did love this new guy she's been with 3 months now. So through all that I rest real easy with everything. She wasn't meant for more than what she was those 6 months and Im fine with that. It's the details and the mess they make that kills you. Gotta ignore that because its just not important. I had fun the time we were together and that is important and the fact that I could laugh the things she does now compared to when I was too involved
That started off as some great words of wisdom.....then got kind of depressing...
 
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