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but what is it all about, what are the origins, forthwith!
Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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IceDoesntHelp
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Just go to the last page and search up "secret" comes up 57 times (;
GameplayWhore
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so nothing eh
#8969, Plantronics (headset company) hiring for possible Wii U peripheral development
That's really it. And I'm having trouble finding a good quality but cheap kilt to buy that suits me perfectly. So altogether a pretty blah day.
edit: Oh, and Tom (it was Tom, right?) pointed out that the killerfreaks.com website is particularly cool nowadays. That's not news, but it was to me.
-Pyromaniac-
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hmm if a secret makes a sound on the internets is it a secret anymore?
you'll find one sooner or later, believe.
Dreamwriter
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Unfortunately, the name Wii is here to stay. I mean, Wii has sold far more units than the NES in its lifetime, and the NES was so popular Nintendo's followup console was "Super NES". Then they dropped NES from the name when they went 64-bit, and the system flopped. Nintendo ain't gonna make that mistake again.
shadyspace
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Oh God we're going to be buying Wiis until we're all dead.
The N64 flopped?
GameplayWhore
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It stopped getting first place, at least.
It's shocking because everyone I knew and their grandma had one.
Oh well, I loved it. And their slogan too.
"Get N or get out"
Nintendo needs another badass slogan like that for the Wii U.
shadyspace
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Same here. The only kids I knew that had PS1s were kids who were rich enough to afford it and a N64. Everyone else had just a N64. I had no idea the PS1 was the winner of that gen until years later.
Dreamwriter
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Well, relatively speaking. Less than 33 million units sold, compared to the SNES' 49 million and the PS1's 100 million. Of course Gamecube was only around 21 million...
Same here! In college, everyone I knew had a 64. I knew a few with Playstations, but the social aspect around their consoles was sparse compared to the liveliness around the 64. People would meet to play 64 games, but I never heard about get-togethers to play a PS1 game..
shadyspace
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"You can only have two people play together? Lame!"
Dreamwriter
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GameplayWhore
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That was in part a chasm in social circles. The first two PlayStations had *immense* casual appeal, and that kind of player isn't usually into gaming get togethers.
Same here. More people had Saturns than PS1s.
shadyspace
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Nobody had that thing.
I have some friends who still get together for a night of Perfect Dark or Goldeneye from time to time.
Haha..
I'd love to see a scientific survey done of console company loyalists regarding their views on a litany of gaming industry and game design issues. The differences in fundamental opinion would be fascinating.
Dreamwriter
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Yeah, those old Nintendo hardcore gamers weren't necessarily playing the same games, since the Playstation was what brought gaming to the mainstream audience. Sports games were big on the Playstation, so you'd have people getting together to watch football, and then play football on their PSX afterwards. Although the PSX with its long lifetime and huge library did get every genre, and I remember gaming get togethers where we would play Puzzle Fighter and fighting games and stuff.
Goes to show what I know; I've never seen one of those.
(Then again, I confess to being incredibly ignorant of a lot of non-Nintendo/non-PC gaming items. I just don't care.
)GameplayWhore
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Goes to show what I know; I've never seen one of those.
(Then again, I confess to being incredibly ignorant of a lot of non-Nintendo/non-PC gaming items. I just don't care.
I had the equivalent thing for the Turbografx. It allowed up to *five* players. Nintendon't do that even now!
Whoa. We get eight players for Mario Party. But that's about it.
I doubt it'd happen, but I'd love more games with that ability.
And while I'm wishing: I still want my game of RISK. Imagine everyone bringing their uPads over to your place for an all-night game. You could plot your moves using the screen on the controller, you could PM other players to coordinate attacks or negotiate situations.. it'd be bloody brilliant!
And then, throw-in randomly-generated world maps and online play. This could be one of those games that you end-up playing throughout the console's life, instead of playing it a few times and then shelving it. So much potential!
Dreamwriter
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It's funny, Nintendo *does* do that...when emulating Turbografx! One of the Turbografx Bomberman games in the Wii VC lets you play five player, using a combination of Gamecube controllers and Wii Remotes.
I had a go at predicting the full launch line-up based on what we know at the moment with some guesses thrown in. Would you buy it at launch with this line-up?
First party:
Pikmin 3
Wii U Play
Retro’s game
Third Party:
Killer Freaks from Outer Space – Ubisoft
Assassin’s Creed III – Ubisoft
Just Dance 4 – Ubisoft
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Online – Ubisoft
Aliens: Colonial Marines – Sega
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 – Activision
Batman: Arkham City – Warner Bros. Interactive
Scribblenauts Wii U – Warner Bros. Interactive
Darksiders 2 - THQ
WWE ’13 – THQ
Medal of Honor: Warfighter - EA
FIFA 13 – EA
Madden NFL 13 – EA
NBA Live 13 – EA
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge – Tecmo Koei
Tekken Wii U – Namco Bandai
Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 – Konami
Dragon Quest X – Square Enix (At least in Japan)
Street Fighter X Tekken – Capcom
In terms of launch date I would guess at some point in the second half of November, possibly early December in PAL regions.
First party:
Pikmin 3
Wii U Play
Retro’s game
Third Party:
Killer Freaks from Outer Space – Ubisoft
Assassin’s Creed III – Ubisoft
Just Dance 4 – Ubisoft
Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Online – Ubisoft
Aliens: Colonial Marines – Sega
Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 – Activision
Batman: Arkham City – Warner Bros. Interactive
Scribblenauts Wii U – Warner Bros. Interactive
Darksiders 2 - THQ
WWE ’13 – THQ
Medal of Honor: Warfighter - EA
FIFA 13 – EA
Madden NFL 13 – EA
NBA Live 13 – EA
Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge – Tecmo Koei
Tekken Wii U – Namco Bandai
Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 – Konami
Dragon Quest X – Square Enix (At least in Japan)
Street Fighter X Tekken – Capcom
In terms of launch date I would guess at some point in the second half of November, possibly early December in PAL regions.
ViewtifulJC
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Man, I'm watching Return to Dream Land on YouTube. How did this game go totally under my radar? I guess I kinda put Kirby out my brain after the cute frothy nothingness of Epic Yarn. But this shit...it's like an actual Kirby game! On consoles! Thought they stopped making those after Crystal Shards.
Dreamwriter
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*I* would, but that doesn't really follow what Nintendo has talked about. They said one of the big lessons they learned from the 3DS, and were going to apply to the Wii-U, was that they need to launch a system with AAA first-party games. Retro's game might be a AAA game, but that's unknown (as is the quality of said Retro game, since the majority of Retro's games have been canceled due to poor quality).
What do you think they'll release?
But then what will third parties do when they have to unfairly compete against Nintendo's own first-party efforts?
ViewtifulJC
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I don't know. Either choice has big drawbacks for Nintendo, but I'd prefer that they take the safe route.
I'm not feeling particularly charitable towards third parties, especially with Nintendo twisting and bending to woo them. Maybe they can, like, make excellent games and advertise them? I dunno.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I'm with you, Nintendo can't make and advertise everyones' games but it's understandable if third parties are wary sales-wise regarding the Wii U but they should give the system a shot and see what happens.
Can someone explain what the fuck I'm seeing here.
IrishNinja
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ViewtifulJC
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Maybe it's from reading the haterchildren in the other Nintendo-related threads today, but I'm feeling pretty damn nasty towards the rest of the industry right now. I kinda hope that Nintendo is seriously preparing for the prospect of having to eventually support their console almost entirely on their own.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I think they're always ready for that.
The free middleware shortcuts alone is going out of their way, not to mention if it's true that they listened to third parties as far as what system specifications would be desired.
Online isn't ever ideal with Nintendo but they've done their part, if third parties don't take the company seriously NOW, they never will and third parties are just posturing as usual.
If they don't take the company seriously, I care not one bit about their fates. (note: I won't actively wish them ill, but I won't care one way or the other.)
And honestly? I don't see them taking Nintendo seriously. It won't change until there's a Yellowstone-scaled, dinosaur-asteroid-type event.
Neckbeard detected.
On a serious note, nobody has talked anything relevant about Wii U in a while (aside from that Shane guy). I'm seriously thinking they are keeping whatever secrets they have close to the chest until the big burst at E3, and whatever info it is will give them a leg-up above everyone for a while.
TheCongressman1
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I hope not, because then I won't be getting one. Another generation of primarily Nintendo content would be depressing.
However, based on what we are hearing, I don't think they are going to have to. It already sounds like they are doing infinitely more than before and third parties are infinitely more interested. They fact they they are finally catching up to the competion with their tech so late in the generation means tneyll st least get ports.
This is now my favorite GIF.
Agent Unknown
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But yeah, seriously, me and my brother and our friends used to make fun of the PS1 for only having two controller ports/needing a multitap. Heck, it didn't change with the PS2 either.
Well, I'm not going to reward third parties for their choice to skip out on the Nintendo console. Nintendo fans give their money to third parties for putting games on other consoles, and then they have the nerve to complain about poor support on their Nintendo machines? Really? I don't get how folks could miss this very simple connection. We may say verbally that we want them to make games for the Nintendo machine, but our wallets say otherwise - and third parties know it.
And please, please don't misconstrue that as personally directed to you - it's a very widespread behaviour that I've noticed over the past decade, so my sole intent is to speak widely on this pattern. It's incredibly frustrating to see Nintendo fans en masse undermining their stated desires.
I'll stop ranting. I could go on for a while on this one. Like a crazy person on a street corner yelling at cars.
We got a lot of "happy talk" from third parties before the Wii launch, too.. I could fill these pages with empty praise from developers yammering on about Nintendo's "bravery" and "innovation" and "history," etc etc. But the output - actual games on the shelf - didn't match the bullshit words. After the behaviour over the past few gens, I won't believe the happy talk this time until I see actual, concrete results.
I think it comes down to understanding business. We know that Nintendo does what they do to make money, even at the expense of our wants. The third parties want to make money too, but if their engines just won't run on Wii U (UE3 for instance) without a LOT of work it doesn't make financial sense.
I do however have no sympathy for a third party who goes to the effort of making a game on Wii but makes a "lesser" version ala DeadSpace extraction. That game might have been good, but we still didn't get the full versions.
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