True. I was kinda hoping for a daily-updated, bulletpointed list in the OP so that folks could check it from time to time.
Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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True. I was kinda hoping for a daily-updated, bulletpointed list in the OP so that folks could check it from time to time.
I expect trolls to be in full force. I'm just hoping we get one relevant piece of information.
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Interesting points. I'm hoping investors press them about the hardware just so we have some more insight on it.
I don't think you're intimidating.. maybe a flair for the dramatic, but I can appreciate that!
GameplayWhore
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The side effect is that this manner of cheating will further focus the system on single player and not on local multiplayer, which every game ever made should support, damnit! >:O
Well, there should be local support in at least every multiplayer game
Rösti;37097303 said:
Oh, snap. I remember back in the day when I was a pretty massive AMDroid (I chatted via IM regularly with folks who did hardware design and PR on stuff like the K7, and the website I made had like five to ten thousand regular visitors!). Almost met Anand Lal Shimpi for tea once.
Part of me is still pushing for the little guy, even if Sanders was a right twat now and then, in retrospect.
Apparently, Shadowrun Returns won't be ported on Wii U (nor on the other home systems !), according to an interview of Jordan Weisman, the co-founder of FASA & one of the creator of this setting
No consoles versions of the kickstarted turn-based old-school RPG are planned.
A real pity, because this franchise is huge, i've played this pen & paper rpg a long time ago, the background is original, a mix of cyberpunk & fantasy, i would have loved to see this on Wii U
No consoles versions of the kickstarted turn-based old-school RPG are planned.
A real pity, because this franchise is huge, i've played this pen & paper rpg a long time ago, the background is original, a mix of cyberpunk & fantasy, i would have loved to see this on Wii U
Agent Unknown
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^^^^^
Oh well, as long as they're snubbing all consoles and not just Nintendo.
Oh well, as long as they're snubbing all consoles and not just Nintendo.
AceBandage
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If they have to fund the game via kickstarter then they likely can't afford the licensing costs to make console games.
It's not a matter of snubbing, but a matter of actually being able to even make the game.
It's not a matter of snubbing, but a matter of actually being able to even make the game.
IceDoesntHelp
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What the Wii U really needs is a Pocky machine.
Makes and disperses pockies. Never be hungry again while gaming.
Makes and disperses pockies. Never be hungry again while gaming.
GameplayWhore
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Can't you just use that Wii ordering app to have a constant source of Pocky sent to your front door?
Screw you, NoA!
What the Wii U really needs is a Pocky machine.
Makes and disperses pockies. Never be hungry again while gaming.
Either that, or an ice cream maker.
Imagine playing Blue Bell: The Video Game Adventure, and at the end of each level you get a small measure of ice cream, the amount depending on how well you did. Each level could give you a different flavor, and you can use the level selector once you've beaten the game.
Seriously, I'm fine with PC only versions of those big Kickstarter games. Just to see Shadowrun and Wasteland again is incredible enough and should be supported.
Yeah, it's already incredible enough as you say, can't wait to play these games
It's sad and amazing.. my first assumption was, "lemme guess.. we're skipping Nintendo, right?" And then, upon finding out the reality, my reaction changed to, "oh. How very fair of them. Good deal."
Agent Unknown
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Yeah, same here, it was actually kind of a breath of fresh air ya know?
jump_button
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This is what BigN need to do Developer Program for PlayStation®Suite (Open Beta)
[Again]How much cost a PC>Console port? Sure it must depend which console is targeted and the game you want to port but according to The Banner Saga Kickstarter page, to port the game to XBLA & PSN should cost $50K max. (600K = orchestral score / 650K more stuff in the game & XBLA-PSN port). They're at $629,025, with 29h before the end. It should be ok for the 650K cut.
Agent Unknown
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This is definitely not the site, I made this a few days ago for future GAFers whose accounts won't be activated by E3.
Ya, maybe I should say a separate subsidiary of Nintendo's, based in the US. Similar to NST or Retro.
Kind of sad. When they announced the Wii VC I thought for sure they would be pushing out content on a weekly basis. We'd be lucky enough to get one VC game a month from them.
Oh my mistake. I didn't know you started a message board
radioheadrule83
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Games made on PS Suite will be limited compared to say, a ground up PSN game, but I'd agree -- going with the VM model for homebrewers to cook up something cool is a smart thing to do. I'd love it if I could go on warioware.com and download a 3DS SDK the way I can just go and download an Android SDK...
ColdBlooder
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I put a little more thought into Nintendos goal with the Wii U. And the solution is so simple. Its in the name itself.
Think about it... "Wii U" as in "We" and "You". This may be the reason why they try so hard to get the trademark issue resolved. Its about getting the company and the fans/customer interaction to another level.
First thing that may happen is just a "mediocre" 3rd party support. Look at the MDK2 dude. When someone holds a grudge, they cling to it like their lives depend on it. Reggie farted in the elevator once and the company may never release a game on a Nintendo console ever again. I start to believe that Nintendo tried to get a good 3rd party support, but it wasn´t as successful as they hoped. Then they licenced the free development software for devs around GDC, and made sure, WiiU runs the most of the 3rd party engines. Now they could be in a position where they say: "Ok, if you dont want to develop for us, its ok. We will surely survive without your help. But if you want to join us now or later, you are welcome! We give you all the tools you need to get started! These engines do run and are optimized for our hardware."
Worst case that could happen: Gamecube 2.0 with a good balance between casual and core games from BigN. They still manage to make a lot of profit!
Most likely scenario: The above with better third party support, but still not quite there yet.
Best case: Good 3rd party support, but unfortunately unlikely.
Now about their online service NiN:
I really start to belive that Nintendo is on the verge to go "all out" on the "Online" issue. But it may work a little diffrent than on Live and SEN.
While Live and SEN focus on accomplishments/trophys and gamerscores, so players can show who go the biggest...
On NiN i truly believe there wont be any kind of "Gamerscore" etc. There may be a "accomplishment" system that rewards you with items for you Mii (As already discussed in here). How can Nintendo bring the company closer to the fans/customer? With turnaments. Votings for covers for games (Kinda like with Xenoblade but this time it would be the real cover). The new 2D Mario may in fact have a level editor and those levels can be directly uploaded. There could be a contest for the best Level design. The level that wins will be put in the next 2D Mario. A monthly "Play against a Nintendo employee" could be held. Beat Reggie in Mario Kart U and your Mii gets a special gift, wich you can only get when you beat a Nintendo employee. This Event could also be streamed live. See the contestents on the uPad and the gameplay on the TV.
There are alot of possibilities for an online service focusing on "We and You"
*puh* alot of text, wow! This is what i came up with, trying to anser the question "What is Nintendo trying to archieve with the WiiU?" (Except making money, of course!)
Think about it... "Wii U" as in "We" and "You". This may be the reason why they try so hard to get the trademark issue resolved. Its about getting the company and the fans/customer interaction to another level.
First thing that may happen is just a "mediocre" 3rd party support. Look at the MDK2 dude. When someone holds a grudge, they cling to it like their lives depend on it. Reggie farted in the elevator once and the company may never release a game on a Nintendo console ever again. I start to believe that Nintendo tried to get a good 3rd party support, but it wasn´t as successful as they hoped. Then they licenced the free development software for devs around GDC, and made sure, WiiU runs the most of the 3rd party engines. Now they could be in a position where they say: "Ok, if you dont want to develop for us, its ok. We will surely survive without your help. But if you want to join us now or later, you are welcome! We give you all the tools you need to get started! These engines do run and are optimized for our hardware."
Worst case that could happen: Gamecube 2.0 with a good balance between casual and core games from BigN. They still manage to make a lot of profit!
Most likely scenario: The above with better third party support, but still not quite there yet.
Best case: Good 3rd party support, but unfortunately unlikely.
Now about their online service NiN:
I really start to belive that Nintendo is on the verge to go "all out" on the "Online" issue. But it may work a little diffrent than on Live and SEN.
While Live and SEN focus on accomplishments/trophys and gamerscores, so players can show who go the biggest...
On NiN i truly believe there wont be any kind of "Gamerscore" etc. There may be a "accomplishment" system that rewards you with items for you Mii (As already discussed in here). How can Nintendo bring the company closer to the fans/customer? With turnaments. Votings for covers for games (Kinda like with Xenoblade but this time it would be the real cover). The new 2D Mario may in fact have a level editor and those levels can be directly uploaded. There could be a contest for the best Level design. The level that wins will be put in the next 2D Mario. A monthly "Play against a Nintendo employee" could be held. Beat Reggie in Mario Kart U and your Mii gets a special gift, wich you can only get when you beat a Nintendo employee. This Event could also be streamed live. See the contestents on the uPad and the gameplay on the TV.
There are alot of possibilities for an online service focusing on "We and You"
*puh* alot of text, wow! This is what i came up with, trying to anser the question "What is Nintendo trying to archieve with the WiiU?" (Except making money, of course!)
Kacho
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Yup, they've positioned themselves well for E3 2012. Whether they knock it out of the park remains to be seen, but I have the faith.
Very exciting.Man oh man.. if last year's E3 does that to you, you're going to be in a diabetic coma come this E3. It's gonna be that sweet.
radioheadrule83
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To be fair, there's a content management issue there. There aren't that many 'great' games to release in the grand scheme of things, and they need to pace their releases over however many months, generations or hardware iterations they want the whole VC thing to last.
If they do blow their load, the chances to reinvigorate the VC market by releasing a big title will be gone, and if they allow their eShop's to be flooded by mediocre titles from yesteryear, then there's a risk that they might lower the standard and perception of the shop generally - which could threaten new and original titles.
I'm less concerned about VC releases and more concerned that they right their practices on original titles and incentivise production of new games for their platform. There are some devs who know how to play ball on Nintendo's terms and are doing well, but I think they could make their market more open, friendly and profitable. In fact, I think they need to.
I absolutely can't wait.
I was on honeymoon for last years E3, and for some reason the Nintendo conference was the only one I didn't catch up with when I got back. The video montage Nintendo put together was great. Putting the uPad on the floor as a tee and playing Golf using the Wiimote made me SQQUUEEEE.
I need this machine.
Kacho
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You know...pretty much everything we were hoping to get last year at E3 we'll be getting this year. At least for me.
Last year I was more confused than satisfied about everything I took in. They put out only so much information and that in turn just brought up a ton of questions. Nearly a year later those questions have yet to be answered.
Certainly a good year to be a Nintendo fan.
Last year I was more confused than satisfied about everything I took in. They put out only so much information and that in turn just brought up a ton of questions. Nearly a year later those questions have yet to be answered.
Certainly a good year to be a Nintendo fan.
You have a point, but when I look at the N64 VC for instance, I don't see much content out. There are quite a few titles missing from the N64 Library on the VC. I think they'll continue to push out content with the Wii U VC. We're missing quite a few good titles from all consoles available on the VC. Why haven't we gotten Earthbound or Mega Man X2 yet? They've had 6 years to release these titles, but they decided to not push VC as we had hoped.
I think now that they have increased the file size limitation on the 3DS we'll see something similar on the Wii U, so the possibility of full GC, Saturn and Dreamcast titles being released would mean they will have more quality content to push out. I don't see how this can possibly mean they'll blow out their load this generation if they'll be getting newer content.
I agree with your point about releasing original content, but I don't think original titles would take a hit by releasing VC titles.
I really hope this is what Nintendo is doing with Wii U. With a Nintendo Network similar to SEN or LIVE I'd be pretty happy, but using these ideas and others to go beyond those services would be just awesome. These are excellent ideas for engaging their pre-built community; all of us existing Nintendo fans finally able to come together and enjoy the company's offerings. I especially like the idea of playing against Nintendo employees, with the game being streamed; perhaps in a small box on the Network's home screen which you can expand, entering into a lobby with the action on the tablet screen and community on the TV, or vice versa. Of course, it'd be even better if third parties are also able to engage the community this way through the same service.
DragonKnight
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I wouldn't be so sure if I were you. So, so much can go wrong
I wasnt expecting that much, wanted games tho. This E3 has to deliver on that since we havent seen actual games on Wii U yet.
GameplayWhore
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I phoned up Reggie, and he asked me "What's an Earthbound?"
It'd be really unusual for them to have a console release year E3 presentation that isn't at least above average in quality.
Edit: I found that this list helped my hype a little, even though not all of it is completely accurate. Also, Nintendogaf apparently supports animated avatars, remember those?
The good thing is, they've basically gone mute on Wii U titles for nearly a year. Which means they should have quite a number of games that they've been holding-back and keeping mum on.
It's Reggie's dirty little secret.
GameplayWhore
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At Nintendo, it's a secret to everyone.
Pretty much.
Honestly, I'll be happy if the following are at E3 in some way, shape or form:
-Mario Wii U
-Mario 3DS
-Zelda 3DS
-Retro's New Game
-Pikmin 3
-Clarification about Wii U's power (not in depth tech information)
Anything more is icing on the cake.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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Being realistic, I don't see how they can screw this up. Especially if you're a Nintendo fan.
They may not be able to convert waves of people to their product, but they will definitely leave Nintendo fans frothing at the mouth.
That all seems really reasonable, and totally expected. And you know as well as I do that Nintedo, of all three companies, likes its E3 surprises.. go on and ask Sony or MS fans what they think about their companies' surprise habits. Nintendo's pretty smart on that aspect of things.
We said that last year. It was their show to lose... and they lost.
A "but before you leave..." moment would be appropriate
ColdBlooder
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After every failed E3 conference, BigN delivered BIG TIME the following year. This year should be pretty good
IMO everybody lost. MS was horrible, Sony was too predictable and Nintendo was... well not very clear.
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IceDoesntHelp
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Nope, obviously Ubisoft won last year.
I think that that was the first time where everybody tried to say, "no.. it's your turn to win. After you, my good sir. No, but I insist.."
Certainly funny around here. NeoGAF comedy was the winner that year.
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